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I think it depends on the "Box" you go to and even the individual instructors.
I've had really good, sensible, and knowledgeable instructors, and ones that I think push people too far just for the sake of "giving it large" some even think it's a really good thing if you are sick into the bucket after a WOD.
They spent a lot of time teaching you correct form, but then push you to do more reps, with more weight, and when you are tired and your form is slipping is when you will get an injury.
I know you must push yourself a bit if you want results, but equally you must know your own limits, and ignore the instructors if they try to push you beyond them.
I've had really good, sensible, and knowledgeable instructors, and ones that I think push people too far just for the sake of "giving it large" some even think it's a really good thing if you are sick into the bucket after a WOD.
They spent a lot of time teaching you correct form, but then push you to do more reps, with more weight, and when you are tired and your form is slipping is when you will get an injury.
I know you must push yourself a bit if you want results, but equally you must know your own limits, and ignore the instructors if they try to push you beyond them.
dieseluser07 said:
I may just stick to doing the workout but as slow as i need to to keep my form coreect, i.e. do proper pull ups instead of that kipping type
In my experience it's kipping that fvcks everyones shoulders doing CF. So yeah, be very careful with anything that involves kipping. I now have a permanent shoulder pain from trying too many kipping toes 2 bar, too early on.I still go to a crossfit gym though, I just know when to reign it back in and scale it to suit me.
But if you're doing it sensibly and not trashing your joints, it's no longer crossfit. The defining features of crossfit are stupid programming and ego lifting. If you take those things away, it's just conditioning & light weight lifting.
Olympic lifting to failure; kipping pull ups; kipping dips (!); kipping handstand push ups; elbow wrecking press ups; lumbar cracking bounced deadlifts; cervical spine compressing push presses.... Take all that away and there's nothing of crossfit left.
Olympic lifting to failure; kipping pull ups; kipping dips (!); kipping handstand push ups; elbow wrecking press ups; lumbar cracking bounced deadlifts; cervical spine compressing push presses.... Take all that away and there's nothing of crossfit left.
I'm sure it depends on individual instructors but anecdotally, I train at a small gym with a few pretty fit people (couple of pro and ex-rugby players, a boxer etc etc) but it veers towards the weight lifting end of things.
The coach was on holiday and got a crossfit guy to cover for him and he managed to injure 5 clients in a week doing stupid st like repeating high-stress movements over and over and over. If you're big and lift big weight then invariably, form suffers over time and you start to get hurt.
I know arguably it's their own fault as they should have just stopped and said 'enough' but it's a competitive environment and nobody likes to be the guy that wimps out.
So based purely on that, it seems to put macho behaviour over pure form and I'm not really interested in that. I want to build properly at the pace it needs to be at.
The coach was on holiday and got a crossfit guy to cover for him and he managed to injure 5 clients in a week doing stupid st like repeating high-stress movements over and over and over. If you're big and lift big weight then invariably, form suffers over time and you start to get hurt.
I know arguably it's their own fault as they should have just stopped and said 'enough' but it's a competitive environment and nobody likes to be the guy that wimps out.
So based purely on that, it seems to put macho behaviour over pure form and I'm not really interested in that. I want to build properly at the pace it needs to be at.
ORD said:
If you leave your ego at the door, you're not doing crossfit!
It's a complete fking shambles. If you don't get horribly injured (for life), you've been lucky. Newbie lifters should NOT being go to failure in any lift, let alone the big compound and Olympic lifts.
As for always beating PB's, that just shows how stupid the trainers are. If you are getting a new 'PB' every week, it isn't a PB, it's just using even worse form / cheating more than last week.
Where did you get all of this from? Complete different from my experience of CrossFit.It's a complete fking shambles. If you don't get horribly injured (for life), you've been lucky. Newbie lifters should NOT being go to failure in any lift, let alone the big compound and Olympic lifts.
As for always beating PB's, that just shows how stupid the trainers are. If you are getting a new 'PB' every week, it isn't a PB, it's just using even worse form / cheating more than last week.
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