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Lemmonie

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6,314 posts

255 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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Hi, I'm on holiday just four days into a two week trip in America.
Two days ago my son (9) had an accident in a resteraunt and choked, luckily a staff member used the hi lick manoeuvre and everything turned out OK. Son is ok a
Though scared of eating he is eating.
Me however, I am traumatised, I can't stop crying at random moments, I'm petrified of anyone eating and I don't want to ruin the holiday.
Anyone got any wise words or suggestions to help me chill the fk out?
I feel truly awful.

motco

15,953 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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I assume he's made it to nine years thus far without choking, so look at this event as a one-off. You're only four days in so jet lag will still be a factor for both you and for your son. That can make people behave strangely in all sorts of ways. In a day or two it will all be a nasty memory only - enjoy your stay! By the way it's Heimlich!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,351 posts

150 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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That must've been a very frightening experience for you. Look at it this way, eating can be very occasionally fatal, but not eating is always fatal!

h0b0

7,593 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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My son has a habit of doing this. we have him taught that when in trouble he has to raise his hands and draw attention to himself. It's not always obvious that some one is in trouble so they need to get people's attention.


Having lived with the threat of chocking kids for 4 years I can understand your concerns. But, it sounds like a first time incident so just tell him to slow down when eating. Being on holiday is exciting but not worth dying.


wong

1,288 posts

216 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Learn to perform the Heimlich Manoeuvre yourself.
First from Youtube vids to calm yourself.
A proper course when you get back from holiday.

944fan

4,962 posts

185 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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I do kind of know how you feel. My daughter (7 yr) fell off a horse a few months ago and broke her arm. Nasty compound fracture. I didn't see it but for days after I felt close to tears and did cry. I kept replaying what I thought had happened in my head and it would shock me as I was falling asleep and would bolt up.

Its perfectly natural and it should pass. It is a horrible thing to see your children in danger and understandable to feel this way.

I have always been a worrier about things anyway.

This was a one off accident that has passed.

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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My 3 year old seems to choke almost weekly. Its a fking horrid experience, all you can do is prepare yourself. Chin up.

Wacky Racer

38,159 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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I suggest anyone reading this thread googles Heimlich Manoeuvre..this has saved my life on two occasions and my sons once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgtIgSyAiU


Moral of the story:-

Chew your food into small pieces, don't swallow large pieces of Potatoes, Steak etc...teacher

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Lemmonie said:
Hi, I'm on holiday just four days into a two week trip in America.
Two days ago my son (9) had an accident in a resteraunt and choked, luckily a staff member used the hi lick manoeuvre and everything turned out OK. Son is ok a
Though scared of eating he is eating.
Me however, I am traumatised, I can't stop crying at random moments, I'm petrified of anyone eating and I don't want to ruin the holiday.
Anyone got any wise words or suggestions to help me chill the fk out?
I feel truly awful.
I had to perform the Heimlich on my daughter's boyfriend for exactly the same thing. He was turning blue, I kinda assumed the staff would know what to do but they didn't. As he was a footballer his abs are really strong, I tried and tried to get the piece of steak to pop but it wouldn't. It partially dislodged but as soon as he gasped for air it got stuck again.

It wasn't till I decided his ribs were sacrificial and really went for it that it finally dislodged. I had to shove all his internal organs upwards to shift it, it was like the male rape scene from Pulp Fiction yikes

He ended up spitting blood and was bruised for a week but he was alive. He went to A&E for a checkup and they gave him a good checkover and he was fine but battered.

They advised drinking Coke as the acid helps break down any leftover residue and the Co2 assists in re-oxygenating...

If you're anything like me you'll shake a bit afterwards and feel exceptionally emotional. It's normal, it'll pass thumbup

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Just relax and think how lucky you were

My baby daughter suffered badly with reflux due to a diary allergy, she chocked once in a restaurant which was scary but ok

Second time was worse, was choking at home, then couldn't clear it & went blue, proper blue, my partner called 999 and then my daughter couldn't choke anymore and went white/blue, then the piece of food just popped out.

It was frustrating as she would often choke, but the professional advice we had was to leave her and let her clear it herself!

Best advice I would give you, is just watch what they eat, get them to cut it up small and enroll yourself on a first aid course when you get home, ideally aimed at children. I enrolled myself on one and it was really helpful and reassuring , ironically the next week after doing it I found a neighboured collapsed in the middle of the road and got to apply the course for real!

If it makes you feel any better my daughter also grabbed my fresh espresso and poured it down her, thankfully she had a thick jacket on and we put her in a cold bath, I could see she was in discomfort, but wasn't majorly concerned as it was a "small" burn (I felt bad though), we rang the non emergency NHS line. 5 Minutes later we had an air ambulance land next to our house and 2 ambulances turn up , about 5 paramedics in my front room dousing my daughter in specialist burns control fluid making calculations on how long it would take her to get to the nearest specialist burns unit for children in central London ( 2 hours by road) by helicopter! Then I panicked..

Was OK in the end, I just wasn't aware how a even a tiny burn can be very dangerous on a baby/toddler hence all the paramedics.

You just learn from your mistakes and move on...I did feel really really bad for a few weeks , doing a first aid course at least equipped me with the basics to handle future situations

Edited by TwistingMyMelon on Monday 22 August 10:24

Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Since someone decided to do Heimlich, you should get him checked out for internal injuries. If you do learn to do stuff, get on a St John's Ambulance first aid course or similar. The first option for choking is a firm pat on the back in the right manner. Heimlich is a last resort and often not necessary.

wong

1,288 posts

216 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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As an aside, Dr. Heimlich (now in his 90's) who invented the manoeuvre and has been teaching it to first aiders for decades, actually used it "in the field" earlier this year. An 80 year old lady was choking in the nursing home where he lives and he performed his namesake action and saved her life. Prior to this, he had never actually done it FOR REAL!

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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I'm sure it must have been disturbing for you mate but the anxiousness will pass, you're probably still in a bit of shock, combined with being in unfamiliar surroundings it's bound to upset you. Try to relax and enjoy the break without being too stressed about it, easy to say I know.

Russ would know how to help you frown

bga

8,134 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Choking is nasty and I can understand how you are still worried. It's something we live with due to a complication with one of our 2y/o sons.

A couple of things that may help:

1. Most people go through their lives without requiring the Heimlich maneuver. It is very unlikely that it will happen to your son or any member of your family again. That said, having some basic first aid training (£50 or so) will prepare you in the future.

2. If you are worried about choking (or people choking) then make sure that food, especially meat, is chopped up well and chewed properly. As boring as it is, eating more slowly and drinking with meals will greatly reduce the likelihood of an obstruction. I appreciate that it's not so easy with kids!

Hopefully the rest of your holiday is not so eventful.

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Lemmonie said:
Hi, I'm on holiday just four days into a two week trip in America.
Two days ago my son (9) had an accident in a resteraunt and choked, luckily a staff member used the hi lick manoeuvre and everything turned out OK. Son is ok a
Though scared of eating he is eating.
Me however, I am traumatised, I can't stop crying at random moments, I'm petrified of anyone eating and I don't want to ruin the holiday.
Anyone got any wise words or suggestions to help me chill the fk out?
I feel truly awful.
Yes mate - get back to being a Dad. Whilst you're worrying and fretting about 'what could have happened' you aren't doing your first job which is being a Dad. Enjoy life, enjoy your holiday, don't let something that effectively "didn't happen" define your holiday and ruin the family memories.



Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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wong said:
As an aside, Dr. Heimlich (now in his 90's) who invented the manoeuvre and has been teaching it to first aiders for decades, actually used it "in the field" earlier this year. An 80 year old lady was choking in the nursing home where he lives and he performed his namesake action and saved her life. Prior to this, he had never actually done it FOR REAL!
Needs posting here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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SilverSpur said:
Lemmonie said:
Hi, I'm on holiday just four days into a two week trip in America.
Two days ago my son (9) had an accident in a resteraunt and choked, luckily a staff member used the hi lick manoeuvre and everything turned out OK. Son is ok a
Though scared of eating he is eating.
Me however, I am traumatised, I can't stop crying at random moments, I'm petrified of anyone eating and I don't want to ruin the holiday.
Anyone got any wise words or suggestions to help me chill the fk out?
I feel truly awful.
Yes mate - get back to being a Dad. Whilst you're worrying and fretting about 'what could have happened' you aren't doing your first job which is being a Dad. Enjoy life, enjoy your holiday, don't let something that effectively "didn't happen" define your holiday and ruin the family memories.
Dad or mum?

Wacky Racer

38,159 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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SilverSpur said:
Lemmonie said:
Hi, I'm on holiday just four days into a two week trip in America.
Two days ago my son (9) had an accident in a resteraunt and choked, luckily a staff member used the hi lick manoeuvre and everything turned out OK. Son is ok a
Though scared of eating he is eating.
Me however, I am traumatised, I can't stop crying at random moments, I'm petrified of anyone eating and I don't want to ruin the holiday.
Anyone got any wise words or suggestions to help me chill the fk out?
I feel truly awful.
Yes mate - get back to being a Dad. Whilst you're worrying and fretting about 'what could have happened' you aren't doing your first job which is being a Dad. Enjoy life, enjoy your holiday, don't let something that effectively "didn't happen" define your holiday and ruin the family memories.
Errr, The OP is female......smile

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Wacky Racer said:
Errr, The OP is female......smile
Cant know everything now can I....


Please replace male gender words with female gender.

48Valves

1,949 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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As a previous poster has mentioned. Get the lad checked over as having there may be some internal damage.