Lower back issues - is this going to be long term?!
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Thanks for all the responses guys/gals.
I had my second physio appointment on Tuesday and it was a little hit and miss. The physio suggested that due to constant and excessive compound training my back has developed a desire to be "plank straight" as he described it. Asking me to bend down my back consciously stays straight, and his opinion is that my back has arched at the lower point when I have been pushing it to much and as my back has arched under the stress it has caused my muscles to spasm. He's the professional and not me but that seems a little strange?
Regardless, I have been continuing my stretches and keeping active and I must say it has been getting better, my sleep is still irritated however, and there's still tenderness and caution when exerting myself physically.
This is 3 weeks in now, and I have been advised to resume training next week under light load, no squats or deadlifts until my 6 week check-up. My missus is into her yoga and pilates so she has been showing me some exercises to do whilst warming up.
My hamstrings are a weaker point to my body but they aren't under developed. I'm a keen cyclist and I've been on a regular squat/leg routine for 5 years. That being said I will not rule out some more focused hamstring training from here on. I can already feel a complex coming out about them
I have an old groin? injury that occurs on and off in waves for the last 2 years, I've been through the hospitals and through the physio's and finally I have an X-ray scheduled, I cannot help but think these are combined? Since my back 'Went' my groin has been distinctively worse, there is a clicking and a dull pain on certain movements, particularly moving in bed, and raising my knee and turning my leg inwards causes the painful sensation every time. Fingers crossed they're both minor injuries with relatively quick remedies!
I had my second physio appointment on Tuesday and it was a little hit and miss. The physio suggested that due to constant and excessive compound training my back has developed a desire to be "plank straight" as he described it. Asking me to bend down my back consciously stays straight, and his opinion is that my back has arched at the lower point when I have been pushing it to much and as my back has arched under the stress it has caused my muscles to spasm. He's the professional and not me but that seems a little strange?
Regardless, I have been continuing my stretches and keeping active and I must say it has been getting better, my sleep is still irritated however, and there's still tenderness and caution when exerting myself physically.
This is 3 weeks in now, and I have been advised to resume training next week under light load, no squats or deadlifts until my 6 week check-up. My missus is into her yoga and pilates so she has been showing me some exercises to do whilst warming up.
My hamstrings are a weaker point to my body but they aren't under developed. I'm a keen cyclist and I've been on a regular squat/leg routine for 5 years. That being said I will not rule out some more focused hamstring training from here on. I can already feel a complex coming out about them
I have an old groin? injury that occurs on and off in waves for the last 2 years, I've been through the hospitals and through the physio's and finally I have an X-ray scheduled, I cannot help but think these are combined? Since my back 'Went' my groin has been distinctively worse, there is a clicking and a dull pain on certain movements, particularly moving in bed, and raising my knee and turning my leg inwards causes the painful sensation every time. Fingers crossed they're both minor injuries with relatively quick remedies!
It sounds to me like something a chiropractor could help with. I chose one who is a back specialist, more specifically back injury through sport.
And he's just by Liverpool St so dead handy too!
I base that view on nothing other than my recent personal experiences. Other witchdoctors are available.
And he's just by Liverpool St so dead handy too!
I base that view on nothing other than my recent personal experiences. Other witchdoctors are available.
This book is supposed to be very good, the author was the first person to really deal with back pain from a medical perspective from what I understand. It was his stretches and movements which my chriopractor used when I f
ked mine from sitting badly. Now I do a range of stretches before squatting or deadlifting, and so far no issues.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Treat-Your-Back-Robin-McK...
ked mine from sitting badly. Now I do a range of stretches before squatting or deadlifting, and so far no issues. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Treat-Your-Back-Robin-McK...
E65Ross said:
OP - where are you based? I'm a chiropractor working in Portsmouth if that's any use to you. If so, happy to do a mates rate for a fellow PHer.
I'm up north, Hull to be precise! Thank you for the offer though, I am seeing the private physio after my weekend at work, hopefully he can give me another massage in the area and then as you say, Ill look to a chiropractor in the area!Condi said:
This book is supposed to be very good, the author was the first person to really deal with back pain from a medical perspective from what I understand. It was his stretches and movements which my chriopractor used when I fked mine from sitting badly. Now I do a range of stretches before squatting or deadlifting, and so far no issues.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Treat-Your-Back-Robin-McK...
Excellent, ill take a gander, for 6 quid cant really complain!ked mine from sitting badly. Now I do a range of stretches before squatting or deadlifting, and so far no issues. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Treat-Your-Back-Robin-McK...
OP Many moons ago I was a gym rat, back then it was 50p a week to a £1! So in 1980 I was squatting & one my spotters thought I was not going to make it & grabbed the bar end, the other did not, I went around like a slow motion helicopter ripping muscles etc. I carried on training after 2 weeks rest, all was Ok for awhile, in 1986 I had to stop training work,kids came along, life etc.
When I stooped training then I had some lower back problems , so much so that at one stage when my wife was pregnant she had to help me get up from the floor. So forward to August this year I had been doing light work & came inside , when I went to get up I had the most excruciating pain I have ever felt in my lower back, well TBH it was just pain everywhere, the after 3 days it subsided & 2 days later all seemed well.
I then started getting slight pains in my left leg/foot, this developed into mind blowing pain in my leg & foot over the next week, I was not able to move my foot upwards & mind lower leg(shin) I could not raise upwards when lying down on top this my right testicle was hurting like hell & I could not pass urine more than a very slow dribble.
I also could not lie down on any side , could not sit down at all I could only lie down on y front with the left leg hanging off the bed or I could stand & shuffle 4 -5 steps, I was in a bad way. I called the doc out on a Sunday night as I was taking Morphine tablets twice a day Ondansetron, Oral Morphine, Diazapam, Tramadol & nonoton, these just knocked me out for about 4 hours until they wore off ( why anyone would want to take these drugs for fun is beyond me, they made me feel very ill) & the pain woke me up & repeat. He took me to hospital & I had a MRI scan the Emergency back surgery that lasted 5 hours.
I had a prolapsed disc but as it was flattened over the years due to heavy lifting/twisting etc the edge had become brittle, a piece of the disc had snapped off & lodged under my disc, that was the all encompassing pain, over the next few days it moved itself under the disc & dropped down into the spines central nerve cavity, hence my pain relieve a few days later, it traveled down into my left leg never centre where it progressed to squash & crush the nerves for my foot ,leg etc as above. So now I cannot walk correctly & cannot lift more than a half kettle of water & must keep my feet inline with my shoulders for 6 weeks while the backbone/disc binds with each other again. Hopefully when physio starts they can improve this but the surgeon says I have a 70% chance due to the nerves being crushed to get my functions back to 50% .
Just for gods sake look after your backs & do NOT ignore any twinges, my life has changed in an instant!
When I stooped training then I had some lower back problems , so much so that at one stage when my wife was pregnant she had to help me get up from the floor. So forward to August this year I had been doing light work & came inside , when I went to get up I had the most excruciating pain I have ever felt in my lower back, well TBH it was just pain everywhere, the after 3 days it subsided & 2 days later all seemed well.
I then started getting slight pains in my left leg/foot, this developed into mind blowing pain in my leg & foot over the next week, I was not able to move my foot upwards & mind lower leg(shin) I could not raise upwards when lying down on top this my right testicle was hurting like hell & I could not pass urine more than a very slow dribble.
I also could not lie down on any side , could not sit down at all I could only lie down on y front with the left leg hanging off the bed or I could stand & shuffle 4 -5 steps, I was in a bad way. I called the doc out on a Sunday night as I was taking Morphine tablets twice a day Ondansetron, Oral Morphine, Diazapam, Tramadol & nonoton, these just knocked me out for about 4 hours until they wore off ( why anyone would want to take these drugs for fun is beyond me, they made me feel very ill) & the pain woke me up & repeat. He took me to hospital & I had a MRI scan the Emergency back surgery that lasted 5 hours.
I had a prolapsed disc but as it was flattened over the years due to heavy lifting/twisting etc the edge had become brittle, a piece of the disc had snapped off & lodged under my disc, that was the all encompassing pain, over the next few days it moved itself under the disc & dropped down into the spines central nerve cavity, hence my pain relieve a few days later, it traveled down into my left leg never centre where it progressed to squash & crush the nerves for my foot ,leg etc as above. So now I cannot walk correctly & cannot lift more than a half kettle of water & must keep my feet inline with my shoulders for 6 weeks while the backbone/disc binds with each other again. Hopefully when physio starts they can improve this but the surgeon says I have a 70% chance due to the nerves being crushed to get my functions back to 50% .
Just for gods sake look after your backs & do NOT ignore any twinges, my life has changed in an instant!
Gerradi said:
Just for gods sake look after your backs & do NOT ignore any twinges, my life has changed in an instant!
x 1000! I had absolutely no idea at all that lifting something too heavy could put me in pain for life, never sleeping properly again and permanently on medication with side effects. The truth is that it can, so be careful! It's surprisingly easy to completely bugger yourself up.
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