Can't Sleep, What to Do??

Can't Sleep, What to Do??

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HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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s p a c e m a n said:
Get in bed, close your eyes and say 6 things that you can hear and 6 things that you can feel.. missus breathing, bedsheet on your legs ect. Open your eyes and then close them and count 5 different things of each. Continue down to 1, I've never made it to the end.
laugh when I read this I imagined a bloke creeping into bed so as not to wake the other half, and then saying aloud;
"I CAN FEEL YOU BREATHING"
"I CAN FEEL BEDSHEET ON MY LEGS"'
etc etc...

If I can't sleep I resist the temptation to watch the TV, play with my phone etc. I have a 'go-to' book for this situation.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Perik Omo said:
I no longer take the Seroxat .
This stuff turned my ex almost suicidal, proper looney-tunes stuff for some people...

SVX

2,182 posts

211 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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I suffer from this terribly - according to my Fitbit I'm restless/awake 18-24 times a night. Prescription drugs such as Zopiclone are not the answer in the long term, however, what I have found works is 5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan), which is a natural suppliement that helps you to "drop off". Insomnia is crippling if you can't find a solution that works for you.

Oceanic

731 posts

101 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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I think if it is your mind being active at night there could be a few things, firstly how late do you eat in the evening compared to your bed time?

I can recommend meditation for sorting this thing out, try https://www.headspace.com/

HRL

3,341 posts

219 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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If only weed was legal in the UK, eh. That would help you sleep.

toasty

7,472 posts

220 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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karona said:
toasty said:
Zopiclone works for me. It doesn't really make you drowsy, just clears your mind allowing you to doze off.
Careful with that, my Mrs took it for months, and it really messed her up.
http://patient.info/forums/discuss/zopiclone-addic...
Sorry, yes I should have mentioned I was warned by my GP that it's highly addictive.

I only use it occasionally (as prescribed) when I am unable to sleep.

It is not recommended for chronic sleep issues. As always, speak to your GP.

arch stant0n

82 posts

105 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Get back up and do something for a short while...don't go on the bloody internet or you'll be there all night! I find reading helps drift back off sometimes.
Drowsy antihystamines work nicely for me if the above doesn't - diphenhydramine is sold as Benadryl in the States. Dirt cheap there, about 20x the price here as it's sold as a sleeping pill.
One of the biggest differences is regular exercise, doesn't need much but it really helps.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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HRL said:
If only weed was legal in the UK, eh. That would help you sleep.
On the few occasions I tried it in my youth I couldn't stay awake for the next 24 hours. Sleeping until lunchtime, again in the afternoon, it was like having narcolepsy.

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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DavesFlaps said:
I used to be affected by this a few years ago.

When you're lying in bed trying to sleep, close your eyes and imagine yourself in a situation you've experienced that you've found totally relaxing; for me it was lying on a beach in Thailand watching the ocean, or floating on the Dead Sea, to give a couple of examples. Focusing on these moments helped me clear the st that was keeping me awake and it's a technique I still use.
Me too, my go to place is watching myself snowboard down the side of the Lavachet wall as if I was in a helicopter. I did it in early 2002 and its worked ever since.

Here is the wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQT5tyuRA7U

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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coopedup said:
Snap, with the added bonus of getting up loads of times as my bladder seems to think it needs emptying every 30 minutesrolleyes
If true, I hope you've sought medical advice. Four years ago I had the same problem, went to see my GP. Diagnosis: prostate cancer (now dealt with).

HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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battered said:
HRL said:
If only weed was legal in the UK, eh. That would help you sleep.
On the few occasions I tried it in my youth I couldn't stay awake for the next 24 hours. Sleeping until lunchtime, again in the afternoon, it was like having narcolepsy.
It might help you get to sleep but it won't be quality sleep

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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SVX said:
I suffer from this terribly - according to my Fitbit I'm restless/awake 18-24 times a night. Prescription drugs such as Zopiclone are not the answer in the long term, however, what I have found works is 5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan), which is a natural suppliement that helps you to "drop off". Insomnia is crippling if you can't find a solution that works for you.
That's very silly.

A. You're consulting one of the things that is keeping you awake.
B. You're actually believing what a fitbit is telling you laugh

Piginapoke

4,760 posts

185 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Run.

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Riley Blue said:
coopedup said:
Snap, with the added bonus of getting up loads of times as my bladder seems to think it needs emptying every 30 minutesrolleyes
If true, I hope you've sought medical advice. Four years ago I had the same problem, went to see my GP. Diagnosis: prostate cancer (now dealt with).
yes Please go and get checked. Even if 'just' an enlarged prostate it wants keeping a bit of an eye on.

OP - try a) orgasm (with company or not), b) booze of choice NOT for sleepiness but in a context of having a winding-down part of your evening where you're turning the electronics off, generally starting to settle - if you can't savour it, don't have it and c) a really, really nice soothing/boring podcast or documentary, screen turned off or away from you so the light won't bother you, just to give you something 'safe' to concentrate on - Naxos CDs of Haydn string quartets (go on forever, definitely not going to involve explosions halfway through) or similar also do this job quite well.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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FlyingMeeces said:
- Naxos CDs of Haydn string quartets (go on forever, definitely not going to involve explosions halfway through) or similar also do this job quite well.
Jesus, Haydn string quartets? Poor sods an insomniac not bloody suicidal!

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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battered said:
FlyingMeeces said:
- Naxos CDs of Haydn string quartets (go on forever, definitely not going to involve explosions halfway through) or similar also do this job quite well.
Jesus, Haydn string quartets? Poor sods an insomniac not bloody suicidal!
rofl
Fair point.
I so thoroughly trained myself to go to sleep to it at some point that live concerts became very seriously problematic...

paulwirral

3,133 posts

135 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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I usually strike up a conversation with my wife , never fails to send me to sleep !
So get married if your single or if you can't wait that long try watching the Grand Prix tomorrow

Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Melatonin, 3mg.

Not readily available ie you can't buy it from any shops in the UK but easily available online.

Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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If you have any friends on Mirtazapine, an anti-depressant, ask them if they have any spare pills. The usual prescribed dose is 30mg.

Let's say you get one of those, all you need to do is cut off a little piece, maybe a tenth to start. It's almost like a sleeping tablet.

If the small piece has no effect try a bit more the next time but the lower the dose the greater the soporific effect.

Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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paulwirral said:

...try watching the Grand Prix tomorrow
Good shout, out of the last 30 or so Grand Prix I can only remember staying awake for the whole of one. biggrin