Best way to loose stomach?
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johnwilliams77 said:
It is also believe HIIT training can burn more fat than steady state cardio: win win! http://www.bodybuilding.com/content/high-intensity...
What the 'article' fails to mention is that LISS will burn more total calories...which will ultimately lead to greater fat loss. BTW the article refers to 30 mins as steady state - it's not: Steady state training is normally considered >40 minutes. Another point the article fails to mention is that people generally gravitate towards power/speed/sprints or slower/distance because they have differing muscle fibers. Fast twitch = sprint, slow = distance. I do wish jobbing bodybuilding magazine article writers would stick to weights and away from cardio.I was in a similar situation to the OP (43, 6ft, 12.6 st and looking to get down to 11.6st). I find it pretty much impossible to run/jog and found it difficult to motivate myself to go to the gym so decided to concentrate on what I enjoy; cycling and swimming. I joined the local health spa which has a gym and a nice pool and for the last 2-3 months I have been swimming 5 times a week. I really struggled at the beginning to do more than 2 lengths without stopping, but now I swim non stop for 40 mins which burns (according to online resources and my Apple Watch) circa 450 calories. I really just need to get into the gym!
I now weigh 11st 7lb, which is a combination of the above and eating healthy (although I was never that bad), and it really helps my depression and my bad back, so a win win!
I now weigh 11st 7lb, which is a combination of the above and eating healthy (although I was never that bad), and it really helps my depression and my bad back, so a win win!
Edited by tim0409 on Tuesday 29th November 13:20
You can lose weight without any exercise at all! If your body doesn't get enough calories it needs from food then it will switch to you body fat for energy. Go to an app like MyFitnessPal and it will calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate. This is how much your body needs to survive for the day even if all you do is lie in bed watching TV. MyFitnessPal will also show you your esimated Total Energy Expenditure. This is how many calories you burn each day doing stuff and includes your BMR. Use MyFitnessPal to make sure that you eat less than you need and voila! No special pills, no potions, no exercise!
lornafresh said:
You can lose weight without any exercise at all! If your body doesn't get enough calories it needs from food then it will switch to you body fat for energy. Go to an app like MyFitnessPal and it will calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate. This is how much your body needs to survive for the day even if all you do is lie in bed watching TV. MyFitnessPal will also show you your esimated Total Energy Expenditure. This is how many calories you burn each day doing stuff and includes your BMR. Use MyFitnessPal to make sure that you eat less than you need and voila! No special pills, no potions, no exercise!
The issue with the BMR on myfitnesspal is the variation between active, very active varies quite a lot, hard to know which category exactly to choose.lornafresh said:
You can lose weight without any exercise at all! If your body doesn't get enough calories it needs from food then it will switch to you body fat for energy. Go to an app like MyFitnessPal and it will calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate. This is how much your body needs to survive for the day even if all you do is lie in bed watching TV. MyFitnessPal will also show you your esimated Total Energy Expenditure. This is how many calories you burn each day doing stuff and includes your BMR. Use MyFitnessPal to make sure that you eat less than you need and voila! No special pills, no potions, no exercise!
Very true, but adding in exercise is the icing on the cake (wrong term in this context but you get the idea), I think the rule of thumb is that its 70 percent diet and 30 percent exercise, as long as you avoid rewarding yourself by eating more, also apart from the calories expended building muscle means you need more calories day to day anyway.We do need exercise though, it is amazing the number of people who In know that do zero exercise, most are normal weight but we arent designed for complete inactivity, I try to do something every day, even if its just walking the dog for 30 minutes, I covered 2 miles yesterday on foot, dog walk and a bit of other walking, says on my phone I used 188 calories, so coupled with doing jobs at home on my day off, clearing two wheelie bins of leaves, painting a room, cleaning etc I probably burnt 500 or more on top of my BMR, plus whatever deficit I was in from eating less anyway, so I probably doubled the fat burn compared to just watching telly all day.
J4CKO said:
Very true, but adding in exercise is the icing on the cake (wrong term in this context but you get the idea), I think the rule of thumb is that its 70 percent diet and 30 percent exercise
It's actually nearer 50/50. The issue is a lot of people don't like doing exercise so regardless what such and such a study shows it's always going to be diet as the main component of weight loss.popeyewhite said:
J4CKO said:
Very true, but adding in exercise is the icing on the cake (wrong term in this context but you get the idea), I think the rule of thumb is that its 70 percent diet and 30 percent exercise
It's actually nearer 50/50. The issue is a lot of people don't like doing exercise so regardless what such and such a study shows it's always going to be diet as the main component of weight loss.Foliage said:
popeyewhite said:
J4CKO said:
Very true, but adding in exercise is the icing on the cake (wrong term in this context but you get the idea), I think the rule of thumb is that its 70 percent diet and 30 percent exercise
It's actually nearer 50/50. The issue is a lot of people don't like doing exercise so regardless what such and such a study shows it's always going to be diet as the main component of weight loss.I have just had one from the vending machine, a Belgian Chocolate one, it was 384 calories. When I go running my Garmin estimates I burn 120 calories per mile. Therefore that cookie equates to about 3 miles or a trip to Parkrun.
Whilst I can appreciate it is not as simple as this in future it is easier not to have a cookie than haul my carcass out of bed for 9am on a freezing cold Saturday and do a few laps of the park.
If I do this as well as take the non-cookie option then that is the icing on the cake.
johnwilliams77 said:
The issue with the BMR on myfitnesspal is the variation between active, very active varies quite a lot, hard to know which category exactly to choose.
No, you're mistaking BMR for TDEE. BMR calculates for an almost comatose state. This is all the calories your body needs to stay alive with no activity.
Hi All,
Didn't expect this thread to be so popular!
Issue with knee is serious dislocation 4 times. Was going to get it operated on (lateral release) but the day before the surgery, the idea was scrapped because I'm too young. That's the NHS for you. Like they didn't know how old I was to begin with!? I was too young to question or challenge any of this.
I basically can't do any exercise that involves pivoting on my knee. Football is a good one for that, where you turn very sharply. Sucks.
That being said, I'm still a bit lost what my options are? I can swim 2 lengths and will be out of breath, anything is better than nothing. My stomach doesn't stick out immensely that it's noticeable, rather it is slight but still noticeable if I take my t shirt off.
Didn't expect this thread to be so popular!
Issue with knee is serious dislocation 4 times. Was going to get it operated on (lateral release) but the day before the surgery, the idea was scrapped because I'm too young. That's the NHS for you. Like they didn't know how old I was to begin with!? I was too young to question or challenge any of this.
I basically can't do any exercise that involves pivoting on my knee. Football is a good one for that, where you turn very sharply. Sucks.
That being said, I'm still a bit lost what my options are? I can swim 2 lengths and will be out of breath, anything is better than nothing. My stomach doesn't stick out immensely that it's noticeable, rather it is slight but still noticeable if I take my t shirt off.
J4CKO said:
Very true, but adding in exercise is the icing on the cake (wrong term in this context but you get the idea), I think the rule of thumb is that its 70 percent diet and 30 percent exercise, as long as you avoid rewarding yourself by eating more, also apart from the calories expended building muscle means you need more calories day to day anyway.
We do need exercise though, it is amazing the number of people who In know that do zero exercise, most are normal weight but we arent designed for complete inactivity, I try to do something every day, even if its just walking the dog for 30 minutes, I covered 2 miles yesterday on foot, dog walk and a bit of other walking, says on my phone I used 188 calories, so coupled with doing jobs at home on my day off, clearing two wheelie bins of leaves, painting a room, cleaning etc I probably burnt 500 or more on top of my BMR, plus whatever deficit I was in from eating less anyway, so I probably doubled the fat burn compared to just watching telly all day.
OP wants to lose weight and expressed no fitness goals. There is no need for exercise if all he wants to do is lose weight. Exercise can be a problem for some people in that it makes them more hungry which undoes all their diet work. Also a injury prevents OP from exercising much.We do need exercise though, it is amazing the number of people who In know that do zero exercise, most are normal weight but we arent designed for complete inactivity, I try to do something every day, even if its just walking the dog for 30 minutes, I covered 2 miles yesterday on foot, dog walk and a bit of other walking, says on my phone I used 188 calories, so coupled with doing jobs at home on my day off, clearing two wheelie bins of leaves, painting a room, cleaning etc I probably burnt 500 or more on top of my BMR, plus whatever deficit I was in from eating less anyway, so I probably doubled the fat burn compared to just watching telly all day.
Z064life said:
Hi All,
Didn't expect this thread to be so popular!
Issue with knee is serious dislocation 4 times. Was going to get it operated on (lateral release) but the day before the surgery, the idea was scrapped because I'm too young. That's the NHS for you. Like they didn't know how old I was to begin with!? I was too young to question or challenge any of this.
I basically can't do any exercise that involves pivoting on my knee. Football is a good one for that, where you turn very sharply. Sucks.
That being said, I'm still a bit lost what my options are? I can swim 2 lengths and will be out of breath, anything is better than nothing. My stomach doesn't stick out immensely that it's noticeable, rather it is slight but still noticeable if I take my t shirt off.
If you've got fitness goals, list them and then we can help you reach them through training or exercise. If all you want to do is lose bodyfat, you just have to eat less. Didn't expect this thread to be so popular!
Issue with knee is serious dislocation 4 times. Was going to get it operated on (lateral release) but the day before the surgery, the idea was scrapped because I'm too young. That's the NHS for you. Like they didn't know how old I was to begin with!? I was too young to question or challenge any of this.
I basically can't do any exercise that involves pivoting on my knee. Football is a good one for that, where you turn very sharply. Sucks.
That being said, I'm still a bit lost what my options are? I can swim 2 lengths and will be out of breath, anything is better than nothing. My stomach doesn't stick out immensely that it's noticeable, rather it is slight but still noticeable if I take my t shirt off.
Ok thanks all.
Cycling is on my list, I have an indoor bike which I will assemble and use heavily. Even if not for losing the stomach, it will get me out of breath/can adjust tension, etc.
One thing which is confusing is my visceral fat is usually 6 or 7 which is very good, but then I should have a completely flat stomach?
EDIT: Also is sugar bad for me with the goal to get a flat(ter) stomach? I know sugar is obviously bad, but is it counter intuitive to getting a flat stomach?
Cycling is on my list, I have an indoor bike which I will assemble and use heavily. Even if not for losing the stomach, it will get me out of breath/can adjust tension, etc.
One thing which is confusing is my visceral fat is usually 6 or 7 which is very good, but then I should have a completely flat stomach?
EDIT: Also is sugar bad for me with the goal to get a flat(ter) stomach? I know sugar is obviously bad, but is it counter intuitive to getting a flat stomach?
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