Best way to loose stomach?

Best way to loose stomach?

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lornafresh

17 posts

88 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Are you using an Omron? In my experience to VF at 6 is about 20% body fat for a guy.

Sugar isn't great for you because there's no nutrients in it - just calories. And it will make you more hungry rather than satiate you. But having said that, if you didn't care anything about your health, you could still eat just sugar everyday and as long as the calories you're eating are less than what your body needs you'll lose fat. You'll feel like crap very soon though. And more than likely become very ill quickly!

RobM77

35,349 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Z064life said:
Ok thanks all.

Cycling is on my list, I have an indoor bike which I will assemble and use heavily. Even if not for losing the stomach, it will get me out of breath/can adjust tension, etc.

One thing which is confusing is my visceral fat is usually 6 or 7 which is very good, but then I should have a completely flat stomach?

EDIT: Also is sugar bad for me with the goal to get a flat(ter) stomach? I know sugar is obviously bad, but is it counter intuitive to getting a flat stomach?
Make sure the seat height on the bike is correct if you have bad knees - there are plenty of guides online for how set this.

Don't forget that you are at the mercy of where your body stores fat. The lightest I've ever been is 58kg, which was a BMI of 18.4, coupled with worringly low body fat measurements, but I still had a bit of a belly on me; it's just the way my body seems to store what little fat it has - at the time the rest of me looked like a shrink wrapped skeleton!

J4CKO

41,287 posts

199 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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If you are eating to a limit in calories, sugary food doesnt really fit in that very well and as Lorna says tends to make you hungry, I bleeive this is due to the way it is processed and how we get addicted to the rush, and then the attendant crash in blood sugar.

Eating less crap and getting hungry will lose weight but for me anyway, it isnt sustainable and doesnt wean you off that sugar addiction, I had to completely change how I eat and view food.

Breakfast, gone are the sugary cereals, in is porridge, throw some unsweeted coconut in.

Lunch, out has gone the white bread sandwiches, crisps and chocolate, right now I have a box of salad, with a bit of cheese, some nuts and plenty of chicken, a smidge of dressing but no carbs to speak of, well gone is the reliance on bread.

For Dinner, last night was Chicken, Kale, Carrots, green beans, Sweet Potato Mash and gravy, also the proportions of changed, 1 chicken breast as normal but a small amount of the mash and gravy, fill up on the veg.

And for dessert, if I really want it, one square of Dark Chocolate.



Our first move was to eliminate the main problem, which was us buying loads of "treats", biscuits, sweets and chocolate which would come out after dinner and with booze is why I ended up at 18 st and my wife at 12 and a half.

That was pretty easy, dont buy it, cant have it and weirdly, I kind of enjoy being limited to a small amount as a treat, kind of like being a kid, we have got so used to having vast quantities of stuff we only used to see at birthday parties.

Cut the booze out, have a few at weekend but no midweek drinking and just much less in general.

I reckon I have 1.5 to 2 stone to go to be where I want to be but feel so much better.






WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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RobM77 said:
Z064life said:
Ok thanks all.

Cycling is on my list, I have an indoor bike which I will assemble and use heavily. Even if not for losing the stomach, it will get me out of breath/can adjust tension, etc.

One thing which is confusing is my visceral fat is usually 6 or 7 which is very good, but then I should have a completely flat stomach?

EDIT: Also is sugar bad for me with the goal to get a flat(ter) stomach? I know sugar is obviously bad, but is it counter intuitive to getting a flat stomach?
Make sure the seat height on the bike is correct if you have bad knees - there are plenty of guides online for how set this.

Don't forget that you are at the mercy of where your body stores fat. The lightest I've ever been is 58kg, which was a BMI of 18.4, coupled with worringly low body fat measurements, but I still had a bit of a belly on me; it's just the way my body seems to store what little fat it has - at the time the rest of me looked like a shrink wrapped skeleton!
I'll second the bike fitting bit, this is CRUCIAL. Cycling has massively increased the stability of my knee, you might end up cycling for life smile

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
I'll second the bike fitting bit, this is CRUCIAL. Cycling has massively increased the stability of my knee, you might end up cycling for life smile
I never got my mountain bike set up quite right, and it always caused me some degree of knee pain. I had my road bike fitted at a local bike shop, and I have not had a single knee problem with it.

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Z064life said:
Ok thanks all.

Cycling is on my list, I have an indoor bike which I will assemble and use heavily. Even if not for losing the stomach, it will get me out of breath/can adjust tension, etc.

One thing which is confusing is my visceral fat is usually 6 or 7 which is very good, but then I should have a completely flat stomach?

EDIT: Also is sugar bad for me with the goal to get a flat(ter) stomach? I know sugar is obviously bad, but is it counter intuitive to getting a flat stomach?
Sugar is just sugar, reduce your sugar intake. I personally believe its addictive so you might get a come down from it...

What worked for me was cutting out (id suggest cutting down though) potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, and increasing meat & dairy (and other proteins, beans, nuts etc) and veg, so instead of meals being the traditional 3rds they would be half protein have veg, but really id suggest just reducing your portion of pots, bread, rice, pasta and switching to wholegrain variants. A wholemeal pita stuffed with chilli, cheese and salad, with some chilli and salad on the side for example.

Protein is what makes you mentally feel full, feel hungry, have a boiled egg.


chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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If you haven't seen it, this is well worth a look, That Sugar Film:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B010TVUC3Y/ref...

It seems that all calories are not equal...

Hilts

4,383 posts

281 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Yup, I've probably got one of the most mashed knees going and cycling really helps it smile
What happened to your knee? ISTR you had a bad bike smash when you were posting as tonyout.

I will get into cycling when I can, I can't do a full rotation yet on the stationary bike. The physioterrorists have me doing 5 minutes of half rotations.



King Herald

23,501 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Z064life said:
Hi All,

I'm 30, male, don't drink or smoke, and fairly inactive.

I have a slight "pot belly" and wondering, what's the best way to tone this and lose the stomach? Preferably without going to the gym....!
The simplest, most logical, in all aspects, is to eat less food. It makes you lose weight. It saves you money. It defeats this pointless monotony of going to a gym to burn up calories you shoveled down your face an hour before etc etc.

And it is good for the environment, less poo and empty beans tins being thrust upon the world. A win win situation.

ambuletz

10,690 posts

180 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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King Herald said:
The simplest, most logical, in all aspects, is to eat less food. It makes you lose weight. It saves you money. It defeats this pointless monotony of going to a gym to burn up calories you shoveled down your face an hour before etc etc.

And it is good for the environment, less poo and empty beans tins being thrust upon the world. A win win situation.
I think it's regarded that you're going to be in better health exercising and eating more calories then not exercising and eating less (where both situations have the same deficit).

RobM77

35,349 posts

233 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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ambuletz said:
King Herald said:
The simplest, most logical, in all aspects, is to eat less food. It makes you lose weight. It saves you money. It defeats this pointless monotony of going to a gym to burn up calories you shoveled down your face an hour before etc etc.

And it is good for the environment, less poo and empty beans tins being thrust upon the world. A win win situation.
I think it's regarded that you're going to be in better health exercising and eating more calories then not exercising and eating less (where both situations have the same deficit).
yes That's true, plus there are two other benefits:

  • You'll be less hungry than the same net calorie balance without exercise. If I burn 1100 calories cycling, then I'm hungry when I finish, but never eat more than about 200-300 calories to offset the calories burnt. This works with all sports. If, on the other hand, I deprived myself of half my usual daily intake I'd be dizzy with hunger!!
  • Exercise builds muscle and that increases your resting metabolic rate, so you'll burn calories even when sat still.

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

211 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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RobM77 said:
ambuletz said:
King Herald said:
The simplest, most logical, in all aspects, is to eat less food. It makes you lose weight. It saves you money. It defeats this pointless monotony of going to a gym to burn up calories you shoveled down your face an hour before etc etc.

And it is good for the environment, less poo and empty beans tins being thrust upon the world. A win win situation.
I think it's regarded that you're going to be in better health exercising and eating more calories then not exercising and eating less (where both situations have the same deficit).
yes That's true, plus there are two other benefits:

  • You'll be less hungry than the same net calorie balance without exercise. If I burn 1100 calories cycling, then I'm hungry when I finish, but never eat more than about 200-300 calories to offset the calories burnt. This works with all sports. If, on the other hand, I deprived myself of half my usual daily intake I'd be dizzy with hunger!!
  • Exercise builds muscle and that increases your resting metabolic rate, so you'll burn calories even when sat still.
Plus the psychological aspects of exercise will make you feel better, improve mood, improve sleep etc...

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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HarryFlatters said:
RobM77 said:
ambuletz said:
King Herald said:
The simplest, most logical, in all aspects, is to eat less food. It makes you lose weight. It saves you money. It defeats this pointless monotony of going to a gym to burn up calories you shoveled down your face an hour before etc etc.

And it is good for the environment, less poo and empty beans tins being thrust upon the world. A win win situation.
I think it's regarded that you're going to be in better health exercising and eating more calories then not exercising and eating less (where both situations have the same deficit).
yes That's true, plus there are two other benefits:

  • You'll be less hungry than the same net calorie balance without exercise. If I burn 1100 calories cycling, then I'm hungry when I finish, but never eat more than about 200-300 calories to offset the calories burnt. This works with all sports. If, on the other hand, I deprived myself of half my usual daily intake I'd be dizzy with hunger!!
  • Exercise builds muscle and that increases your resting metabolic rate, so you'll burn calories even when sat still.
Plus the psychological aspects of exercise will make you feel better, improve mood, improve sleep etc...
...And of course, changing your entire wardrobe with clothes that actually flatter your shape rather than try to hide it...

RobM77

35,349 posts

233 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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HarryFlatters said:
RobM77 said:
ambuletz said:
King Herald said:
The simplest, most logical, in all aspects, is to eat less food. It makes you lose weight. It saves you money. It defeats this pointless monotony of going to a gym to burn up calories you shoveled down your face an hour before etc etc.

And it is good for the environment, less poo and empty beans tins being thrust upon the world. A win win situation.
I think it's regarded that you're going to be in better health exercising and eating more calories then not exercising and eating less (where both situations have the same deficit).
yes That's true, plus there are two other benefits:

  • You'll be less hungry than the same net calorie balance without exercise. If I burn 1100 calories cycling, then I'm hungry when I finish, but never eat more than about 200-300 calories to offset the calories burnt. This works with all sports. If, on the other hand, I deprived myself of half my usual daily intake I'd be dizzy with hunger!!
  • Exercise builds muscle and that increases your resting metabolic rate, so you'll burn calories even when sat still.
Plus the psychological aspects of exercise will make you feel better, improve mood, improve sleep etc...
yes Very true. If I don't get to exercise, as has been the case for the last couple of weeks, I really feel it in terms of mood and just how sprightly I feel during the day.

Another thing is that if you can find an exercise you enjoy, it can be fun too!

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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MisterJD said:
Based simply on the thread title, the dirty takeaway thread laugh
I was about to say diarrhoea! biggrin

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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King Herald said:
The simplest, most logical, in all aspects, is to eat less food. It makes you lose weight. It saves you money. It defeats this pointless monotony of going to a gym to burn up calories you shoveled down your face an hour before etc etc.

And it is good for the environment, less poo and empty beans tins being thrust upon the world. A win win situation.
What a terrifically narrow minded understanding. There are countless other, well documented, and well researched benefits to exercising, rather than it just being a slog to burn calories. Here to give just two small articles:

http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/this-exercise-can-...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2013/10/1...

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Hilts said:
WinstonWolf said:
Yup, I've probably got one of the most mashed knees going and cycling really helps it smile
What happened to your knee? ISTR you had a bad bike smash when you were posting as tonyout.

I will get into cycling when I can, I can't do a full rotation yet on the stationary bike. The physioterrorists have me doing 5 minutes of half rotations.
Hang on, it takes a bit of typing!

I had a comminuted supracondylar-intercondylar fracture of the femur, 4" was missing out of my left leg when I arrived in hospital. Tib and fib were both fractured and my patella was split in two.

I've still got 2" missing out of it, no cartilage, two ligaments replaced with muscle and most of the quad is a mixture of bone and muscle, it's not really one thing or the other.

Can't run but can cycle 100 miles...

Looks messy but considering they gave it five years (I did this in 1984) and I went down for amputation at one point I can't really grumble. Cycling has made a world of difference but I'm very careful to know when to back off. There's definitely good and bad pain...


Edited by WinstonWolf on Thursday 1st December 15:55

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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RobM77 said:
  • Exercise builds muscle and that increases your resting metabolic rate, so you'll burn calories even when sat still.
Can do, though it's quite hard to gain muscle while in calorie deficit and you may even lose it. I added in resistance training and maintained a high protein intake to avoid this risk, and did actually gain a modest amount of muscle, but it's not guaranteed.

RobM77

35,349 posts

233 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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otolith said:
RobM77 said:
  • Exercise builds muscle and that increases your resting metabolic rate, so you'll burn calories even when sat still.
Can do, though it's quite hard to gain muscle while in calorie deficit and you may even lose it. I added in resistance training and maintained a high protein intake to avoid this risk, and did actually gain a modest amount of muscle, but it's not guaranteed.
Thanks. I didn't realise it was a difficult thing to do. For the past year I've been trying to keep my weight constant and gain muscle, which is working so far. smile

Hilts

4,383 posts

281 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Hang on, it takes a bit of typing!

I had a comminuted supracondylar-intercondylar fracture of the femur, 4" was missing out of my left leg when I arrived in hospital. Tib and fib were both fractured and my patella was split in two.

I've still got 2" missing out of it, no cartilage, two ligaments replaced with muscle and most of the quad is a mixture of bone and muscle, it's not really one thing or the other.

Can't run but can cycle 100 miles...

Looks messy but considering they gave it five years (I did this in 1984) and I went down for amputation at one point I can't really grumble. Cycling has made a world of difference but I'm very careful to know when to back off. There's definitely good and bad pain...
Holy st! you weren't kidding. Thanks for taking the time out to post that, I feel a bit better now. Not because of what you went through of course but it makes my injury seem a little lightweight even though it was the most painful thing I've ever experienced. I 'only' tore my quad tendon smile Slowly getting back there though.