Martial Arts

[Fozziebear]

crashley said:

Fozziebear said:

Judo for me, just got in from training. I've been away from it for some years, nice to get back into it at 45!

How long were you out for? I did it from 6-16 and now at 33 i'm considering again for fitness more than anything.

About 20 years from judo, I've been involved in some form of martial arts during that off period. I've done karate, bjj and aikido along with 3 seasons of boxing in the RAF. I'm always doing some form of pt, did ultras for a few years, mtb etc. I'd say get back on the mats mate, it's stupidly fun!

[ben5575]

Fozziebear said:

I'd say get back on the mats mate, it's stupidly fun!

crack on. Just watch your back, you're getting old now...;)

[Pete102]

BRR said:

there's next to no subs available to the guy on top in their opponents guard

Americana....obvs

[BRR]

Pete102 said:

Americana....obvs

I'm not sure I've ever seen that pulled off from inside the guard, the guy on his back would be able to manipulate the person trying to Americana them by using their legs so I doubt they could get the leverage? (or do I need a woosh parrot?) only things I've seen really are a few leg locks if you can open the closed guard heel hooks and ankle locks are available without needing to pass

[ben5575]

BRR said:

however when I've trained with people like Paul Sass they've shown how effective a good guard game is, unfortunately though mine would never be at the level of his

I trained with Ross Pearson a couple of years back. I've never seen a human being move like he did - a fluidity and balance that I've never seen before. And all from a lowish crouch/wrestling position as well.

Great to mess around with and puts your own abilities in to a very harsh perspective! And this is a guy that is apparently 'a bit one dimensional' in the context of the UFC - madness. Great experience though. Nice chap to boot.

Also did a training session with Geo and Richie Martinez. I say 'did', by that I mean I was in our place watching whilst the Jits guys did their thing. If only I were 20 years younger.... I'd still be as terrified! Very scary people indeed.

[BRR]

ben5575 said:

I trained with Ross Pearson a couple of years back. I've never seen a human being move like he did - a fluidity and balance that I've never seen before. And all from a lowish crouch/wrestling position as well.

Great to mess around with and puts your own abilities in to a very harsh perspective! And this is a guy that is apparently 'a bit one dimensional' in the context of the UFC - madness. Great experience though. Nice chap to boot.

Also did a training session with Geo and Richie Martinez. I say 'did', by that I mean I was in our place watching whilst the Jits guys did their thing. If only I were 20 years younger.... I'd still be as terrified! Very scary people indeed.

I've seen Ross train a few times back when he used to go over to Kaobon & Rough House, agree he's very impressive

my coach, Paul Taylor who was in the UFC for a fair few years was again known to be a pretty one dimensional striker and I guess compared to elite UFC guys he is but compared to your average guy that trains martial arts he's superb at everything

The Martinez lot and other BJJ (or 10th planet guys in their case) of their level are pretty special to watch, make it look effortless to do some really cool stuff that if someone like myself attempted I'd just injure myself

[Fozziebear]

ben5575 said:

Fozziebear said:

I'd say get back on the mats mate, it's stupidly fun!

crack on. Just watch your back, you're getting old now...;)

Bit harsh,

[tankplanker]

I've been training BJJ for about five years now with about 2 years of breaks spread out over that period due to work pressures. I did Kick boxing at a reasonably serious gym for a bit over two years but gave that up as I wasn't good enough as I got fed up with being clobbered in sparing.

I really like BJJ as its mental chess and physical exercise. BJJ has encouraged me to lose weight, get fitter and get stronger.

My kids also do BJJ (almost as long as me and with no breaks), its one of the few things that they both enjoy, if not together. This year they will move into the adults class so it'll become a whole lot easier for me to go as well.

[Alex_225]

Fozziebear said:

One of my coaches won a medal in Japan at 60! He's only 63kg and strong as an ox. My dad taught me from 5, I stopped at 15, big mistake. I got hammered last night at training, great feeling

Goes to show though at 60, if you've kept yourself in good shape there's no stopping you!!

It is a good feeling coming away from a session being reminded how tough it is but you know it's doing you good. My shoulders are aching like mad today but it's good to know it's pushed me enough to feel it for a couple of days.

[Fozziebear]

Alex_225 said:

Fozziebear said:

One of my coaches won a medal in Japan at 60! He's only 63kg and strong as an ox. My dad taught me from 5, I stopped at 15, big mistake. I got hammered last night at training, great feeling

Goes to show though at 60, if you've kept yourself in good shape there's no stopping you!!

It is a good feeling coming away from a session being reminded how tough it is but you know it's doing you good. My shoulders are aching like mad today but it's good to know it's pushed me enough to feel it for a couple of days.

Anything is possible if you believe in yourself. I had a non stop session last night, restless sleep due to body refusing to shutdown, got up and did a 5 miler for some active recovery. I don't intend to ease up yet, fitness is the only thing that keeps me sane!

[Alex_225]

Fozziebear said:

Anything is possible if you believe in yourself. I had a non stop session last night, restless sleep due to body refusing to shutdown, got up and did a 5 miler for some active recovery. I don't intend to ease up yet, fitness is the only thing that keeps me sane!

I must admit, I had that real buzz on Tuesday after that session and although I was physically exhausted my mind was still on the go.

[Fozziebear]

Alex_225 said:

I must admit, I had that real buzz on Tuesday after that session and although I was physically exhausted my mind was still on the go.

I get it loads, adrenaline overload and I'm awake all night.

[BRR]

I get the same problem, body feels exhausted but mind is on overload and I find my body twitching a lot through the night, though this week as I'm back to training twice a day (45 mins gym, 2 hours martial arts) combined with being back up early for work I've been so tired that I've managed to sleep straight through

[Pete102]

Definite woosh parrot needed

Theres an Ezekiel choke if you can get an arm around the back of the guard players head but its low percentage....if memory serves me right it didn't stop Roger Gracie doing it several times during a comp a few years back!

Also a couple of wrist locks and the always loved force choke, assuming you are much bigger and heavier than the bottom person!

BRR said:

I'm not sure I've ever seen that pulled off from inside the guard, the guy on his back would be able to manipulate the person trying to Americana them by using their legs so I doubt they could get the leverage? (or do I need a woosh parrot?) only things I've seen really are a few leg locks if you can open the closed guard heel hooks and ankle locks are available without needing to pass

[BRR]

Pete102 said:

Definite woosh parrot needed

Theres an Ezekiel choke if you can get an arm around the back of the guard players head but its low percentage....if memory serves me right it didn't stop Roger Gracie doing it several times during a comp a few years back!

Also a couple of wrist locks and the always loved force choke, assuming you are much bigger and heavier than the bottom person!

BRR said:

I'm not sure I've ever seen that pulled off from inside the guard, the guy on his back would be able to manipulate the person trying to Americana them by using their legs so I doubt they could get the leverage? (or do I need a woosh parrot?) only things I've seen really are a few leg locks if you can open the closed guard heel hooks and ankle locks are available without needing to pass

thought that might be the case

I think Roger Gracie could choke anyone from anywhere without the need to even touch them I do love his style of game though, take down, pass, mount, choke. no need for athleticism etc just pure technique

I'm sure the more BJJ I do i'll soon learn that I can get subbed whilst maintaining guard. I also seem to remember Rick Story submitting someone (maybe Brian Foster) with a head & arm choke from inside the guard which lead me to trying it, I think it quickly resulted in me being swept

[Fozziebear]

BRR said:

I get the same problem, body feels exhausted but mind is on overload and I find my body twitching a lot through the night, though this week as I'm back to training twice a day (45 mins gym, 2 hours martial arts) combined with being back up early for work I've been so tired that I've managed to sleep straight through

No work at the moment so it's train, train, train. Once my company contract starts it'll be harder to roll, but gym will be on

[Alex_225]

Well was back to the Friday session just before the weekend. This is more of a syllabus class so getting to grips with the next Kata for the next grading in the summer.

I was pretty worried that everything would have gone out of my head but I guess when you have practiced something thoroughly, your brain remembers things. I was pleasantly surprised.

[crashley]

So i did my first Judo session in prob about 17years on Friday and God i have missed it, it really is fantastic. Really ached Sat but felt good for it. Session split between groundwork and throws. Be good to get really up to speed for when Crashley Junior can start (a few years).

Question tho - during the ground work, i seem to have effectively sandpapered the tops of my feet/toes - any suggestions to get them to harden up quickly? Don't recall this ever being a problem as a kid. In the meantime the healing/scabbiness is gonna mean lots of bloody socks!

[Alex_225]

crashley said:

So i did my first Judo session in prob about 17years on Friday and God i have missed it, it really is fantastic. Really ached Sat but felt good for it. Session split between groundwork and throws. Be good to get really up to speed for when Crashley Junior can start (a few years).

Question tho - during the ground work, i seem to have effectively sandpapered the tops of my feet/toes - any suggestions to get them to harden up quickly? Don't recall this ever being a problem as a kid. In the meantime the healing/scabbiness is gonna mean lots of bloody socks!

How did you find being thrown after so long? After 9 months or so I was feeling it the next day. Even with break falls there's still a fair old thud on some of the bigger throws.

In terms of protecting your feet, I would say you could go for some soft shin guards that have foot protection. Only thing is with Judo you don't use kicks so maybe feel a bit conspicuous.

[crashley]

Alex_225 said:

How did you find being thrown after so long? After 9 months or so I was feeling it the next day. Even with break falls there's still a fair old thud on some of the bigger throws.

In terms of protecting your feet, I would say you could go for some soft shin guards that have foot protection. Only thing is with Judo you don't use kicks so maybe feel a bit conspicuous.

Actually felt/feel ok, kind of like i'd had an all over beating, but in a heavy work out sort of way. In fact, i feel a lot more pained from slipping on my kitchen floor on Sat and landing on one side of my arse.

There's no way i'm wearing protective stuff, i'd feel a right tit - i'll just hope that heal up a bit harder then! I'm not really sure what i was hoping for. I'm more annoyed that i feel bad about going back to train this wk, because my scabby toes will get blood on their mats.