Is a rowing machine the silver bullet to weight loss?

Is a rowing machine the silver bullet to weight loss?

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anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Cblair246 said:
Thinking of getting a Concept 2 Model D rower. Everywhere seems to have them priced at £860 online with any money off codes not applying to this rower. Dos anyone know of any better deals out there?

Edited by Cblair246 on Saturday 14th January 11:43
Refurbished? https://www.gymkituk.com/concept-2-model-d-with-pm...

Cblair246

200 posts

121 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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garyhun said:
Cblair246 said:
Thinking of getting a Concept 2 Model D rower. Everywhere seems to have them priced at £860 online with any money off codes not applying to this rower. Dos anyone know of any better deals out there?

Edited by Cblair246 on Saturday 14th January 11:43
Refurbished? https://www.gymkituk.com/concept-2-model-d-with-pm...
Unfortunately not enough of a price difference to justify not buying new in my opinion. Thanks for the idea though.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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I bought a Model D from Concept directly the week before Christmas. I ordered it on Wednesday 21st and it arrived first thing on the 22nd. Their service was fantastic. Worth paying slightly more to maintain this as I see it!

Cblair246

200 posts

121 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
I bought a Model D from Concept directly the week before Christmas. I ordered it on Wednesday 21st and it arrived first thing on the 22nd. Their service was fantastic. Worth paying slightly more to maintain this as I see it!
They actually have them on their site for £860 as well. Concept seem to do a good job of controlling the prices. Might just have to bite the bullet and pay the full whack!

clonmult

10,529 posts

208 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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768 said:
clonmult said:
Managed a 66k row on it...
Streuth! How long did it take you?
5 hours; should have been a 100k, but blisters stopped me (trainers are kinda important). Only did it to support a mate who was rowing the atlantic smile

clonmult

10,529 posts

208 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Cblair246 said:
Thinking of getting a Concept 2 Model D rower. Everywhere seems to have them priced at £860 online with any money off codes not applying to this rower. Dos anyone know of any better deals out there?

Edited by Cblair246 on Saturday 14th January 11:43
I still maintain that buying a second hand Model C or D makes more sense. And then you've got a better chance of picking up one with a PM3 or PM4 - the PM5 can be relatively unreliable, whereas the PM3 & PM4 are close to perfectly reliable.

Birdster

2,529 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Jazzy Jag said:
smifffymoto said:
As per title,along with sensible eating will I shed the pounds?

Can anybody suggest a good programme to start with?
Since being diagnosed with gallstones in April last year and spending a night in hospital I have gone out of my way to avoid fatty foods.

Nothing with cheese, butter, mayo etc.
No chocolate, cakes and nothing fried.
I an 5ft 11 and was 15 stone
Without any rowing machine or exercise regime I am now just over 12 stone.

Cost a fortune in new clothes, though
Just wanted to say well done. I'm the same height and weight as you were and want to get back down to 13st. smile

13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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clonmult said:
I still maintain that buying a second hand Model C or D makes more sense. And then you've got a better chance of picking up one with a PM3 or PM4 - the PM5 can be relatively unreliable, whereas the PM3 & PM4 are close to perfectly reliable.
The only sense in which I have found the PM5 to be unreliable is that it tells me I am doing 2k in 7:30 when I am sure I am sub-6.

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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If I could have got sub 6:00, I might not be where I am today.

("Career" bests were 6:11.4 and 16:05 for 2km and 5km respectively.)

13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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louiebaby said:
If I could have got sub 6:00, I might not be where I am today.

("Career" bests were 6:11.4 and 16:05 for 2km and 5km respectively.)
You should have tried harder.laugh

clonmult

10,529 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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13m said:
clonmult said:
I still maintain that buying a second hand Model C or D makes more sense. And then you've got a better chance of picking up one with a PM3 or PM4 - the PM5 can be relatively unreliable, whereas the PM3 & PM4 are close to perfectly reliable.
The only sense in which I have found the PM5 to be unreliable is that it tells me I am doing 2k in 7:30 when I am sure I am sub-6.
Bluetooth connection to ergdata can be hit and miss, similar with the HR belt connectivity too.

You want a Model A and PM1, you'd be faster on that (which sadly isn't a joke, the power curve was slightly different back then, so any given power input would have resulted in slightly faster times).

Birdster

2,529 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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My longest row so far. Quite chuffed.

Just over 20 minutes for 4500m.


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Birdster said:
My longest row so far. Quite chuffed.

Just over 20 minutes for 4500m.

What damper setting is that on?

Birdster

2,529 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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garyhun said:
Birdster said:
My longest row so far. Quite chuffed.

Just over 20 minutes for 4500m.

What damper setting is that on?
If you mean the damper setting on the side? That's set to 10. Should I change it to something lower, but row faster?

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Birdster said:
garyhun said:
Birdster said:
My longest row so far. Quite chuffed.

Just over 20 minutes for 4500m.

What damper setting is that on?
If you mean the damper setting on the side? That's set to 10. Should I change it to something lower, but row faster?
I normally go for around 5-6 and focus on my form and the strength of the pull.

From the Concept site:

" We recommend starting out on a damper setting of 3–5. Really focus on technique, and as you improve, you may find that a lower damper setting gives you the best workout and results. Resist setting the damper lever too high; this can exhaust your muscles before you reap the full cardiovascular benefit rowing provides. The Performance Monitor will give you immediate accurate feedback on each stroke so that you can monitor your performance and determine where you get your best results."

Birdster

2,529 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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garyhun said:
Birdster said:
garyhun said:
Birdster said:
My longest row so far. Quite chuffed.

Just over 20 minutes for 4500m.

What damper setting is that on?
If you mean the damper setting on the side? That's set to 10. Should I change it to something lower, but row faster?
I normally go for around 5-6 and focus on my form and the strength of the pull.

From the Concept site:

" We recommend starting out on a damper setting of 3–5. Really focus on technique, and as you improve, you may find that a lower damper setting gives you the best workout and results. Resist setting the damper lever too high; this can exhaust your muscles before you reap the full cardiovascular benefit rowing provides. The Performance Monitor will give you immediate accurate feedback on each stroke so that you can monitor your performance and determine where you get your best results."
Cool, thank you for the advice. I'll give it a try. I've only really just started out on the rowing machine and prefer to start correctly. smile

Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Birdster said:
Cool, thank you for the advice. I'll give it a try. I've only really just started out on the rowing machine and prefer to start correctly. smile

Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.
If you've been used to 10, you may think 5 too easy and start rowing faster wink Don't do this; focus on a really strong pull and keep your stroke rate somewhere from 24-30.

I'll be in the gym doing this tomorrow morning for 20 minutes so can share the pain smile

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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WRT to damper settings:

Back when I rowed, the tests that would be counted towards GB selection were always done at a drag factor of 140 for a heavyweight man. (>75kgs.)

I think it was 135 for lightweight men and heavyweight women, and 130 for lightweight women, but I never really needed to know that, so I might be wrong.

Setting the damper to the "correct" drag factor is important if you're using lots of different machines, and it can vary quite a bit even for machines bought at the same time, and only ever used in the same gym. Proximity to a wall can also make a difference.

Even now, as a civilian, when I use one (rarely) I will always set it to 140, then plod away at 18 strokes a minute, usually hoping to manage 2:00 splits for 20 mins.

Birdster

2,529 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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garyhun said:
Birdster said:
Cool, thank you for the advice. I'll give it a try. I've only really just started out on the rowing machine and prefer to start correctly. smile

Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.
If you've been used to 10, you may think 5 too easy and start rowing faster wink Don't do this; focus on a really strong pull and keep your stroke rate somewhere from 24-30.

I'll be in the gym doing this tomorrow morning for 20 minutes so can share the pain smile
Thanks for the advice. I'll try this one night this week and will report back if I don't fall off. laugh

Birdster

2,529 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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louiebaby said:
WRT to damper settings:

Back when I rowed, the tests that would be counted towards GB selection were always done at a drag factor of 140 for a heavyweight man. (>75kgs.)

I think it was 135 for lightweight men and heavyweight women, and 130 for lightweight women, but I never really needed to know that, so I might be wrong.

Setting the damper to the "correct" drag factor is important if you're using lots of different machines, and it can vary quite a bit even for machines bought at the same time, and only ever used in the same gym. Proximity to a wall can also make a difference.

Even now, as a civilian, when I use one (rarely) I will always set it to 140, then plod away at 18 strokes a minute, usually hoping to manage 2:00 splits for 20 mins.
Sorry if I'm being daft, but with the concept 2, there's only the 1-10 setting on the side, where would 140 fall on the scale of 1-10.

In between jobs I've been doing some reading. Want to do this properly.

http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=883...

Searching eBay for Concept 2 rowers.