Is a rowing machine the silver bullet to weight loss?
Discussion
Cblair246 said:
Thinking of getting a Concept 2 Model D rower. Everywhere seems to have them priced at £860 online with any money off codes not applying to this rower. Dos anyone know of any better deals out there?
Refurbished? https://www.gymkituk.com/concept-2-model-d-with-pm...Edited by Cblair246 on Saturday 14th January 11:43
garyhun said:
Cblair246 said:
Thinking of getting a Concept 2 Model D rower. Everywhere seems to have them priced at £860 online with any money off codes not applying to this rower. Dos anyone know of any better deals out there?
Refurbished? https://www.gymkituk.com/concept-2-model-d-with-pm...Edited by Cblair246 on Saturday 14th January 11:43
janesmith1950 said:
I bought a Model D from Concept directly the week before Christmas. I ordered it on Wednesday 21st and it arrived first thing on the 22nd. Their service was fantastic. Worth paying slightly more to maintain this as I see it!
They actually have them on their site for £860 as well. Concept seem to do a good job of controlling the prices. Might just have to bite the bullet and pay the full whack!Cblair246 said:
Thinking of getting a Concept 2 Model D rower. Everywhere seems to have them priced at £860 online with any money off codes not applying to this rower. Dos anyone know of any better deals out there?
I still maintain that buying a second hand Model C or D makes more sense. And then you've got a better chance of picking up one with a PM3 or PM4 - the PM5 can be relatively unreliable, whereas the PM3 & PM4 are close to perfectly reliable.Edited by Cblair246 on Saturday 14th January 11:43
Jazzy Jag said:
smifffymoto said:
As per title,along with sensible eating will I shed the pounds?
Can anybody suggest a good programme to start with?
Since being diagnosed with gallstones in April last year and spending a night in hospital I have gone out of my way to avoid fatty foods.Can anybody suggest a good programme to start with?
Nothing with cheese, butter, mayo etc.
No chocolate, cakes and nothing fried.
I an 5ft 11 and was 15 stone
Without any rowing machine or exercise regime I am now just over 12 stone.
Cost a fortune in new clothes, though
clonmult said:
I still maintain that buying a second hand Model C or D makes more sense. And then you've got a better chance of picking up one with a PM3 or PM4 - the PM5 can be relatively unreliable, whereas the PM3 & PM4 are close to perfectly reliable.
The only sense in which I have found the PM5 to be unreliable is that it tells me I am doing 2k in 7:30 when I am sure I am sub-6.13m said:
clonmult said:
I still maintain that buying a second hand Model C or D makes more sense. And then you've got a better chance of picking up one with a PM3 or PM4 - the PM5 can be relatively unreliable, whereas the PM3 & PM4 are close to perfectly reliable.
The only sense in which I have found the PM5 to be unreliable is that it tells me I am doing 2k in 7:30 when I am sure I am sub-6.You want a Model A and PM1, you'd be faster on that (which sadly isn't a joke, the power curve was slightly different back then, so any given power input would have resulted in slightly faster times).
Birdster said:
garyhun said:
If you mean the damper setting on the side? That's set to 10. Should I change it to something lower, but row faster?From the Concept site:
" We recommend starting out on a damper setting of 3–5. Really focus on technique, and as you improve, you may find that a lower damper setting gives you the best workout and results. Resist setting the damper lever too high; this can exhaust your muscles before you reap the full cardiovascular benefit rowing provides. The Performance Monitor will give you immediate accurate feedback on each stroke so that you can monitor your performance and determine where you get your best results."
garyhun said:
Birdster said:
garyhun said:
If you mean the damper setting on the side? That's set to 10. Should I change it to something lower, but row faster?From the Concept site:
" We recommend starting out on a damper setting of 3–5. Really focus on technique, and as you improve, you may find that a lower damper setting gives you the best workout and results. Resist setting the damper lever too high; this can exhaust your muscles before you reap the full cardiovascular benefit rowing provides. The Performance Monitor will give you immediate accurate feedback on each stroke so that you can monitor your performance and determine where you get your best results."
Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.
Birdster said:
Cool, thank you for the advice. I'll give it a try. I've only really just started out on the rowing machine and prefer to start correctly.
Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.
If you've been used to 10, you may think 5 too easy and start rowing faster Don't do this; focus on a really strong pull and keep your stroke rate somewhere from 24-30.Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.
I'll be in the gym doing this tomorrow morning for 20 minutes so can share the pain
WRT to damper settings:
Back when I rowed, the tests that would be counted towards GB selection were always done at a drag factor of 140 for a heavyweight man. (>75kgs.)
I think it was 135 for lightweight men and heavyweight women, and 130 for lightweight women, but I never really needed to know that, so I might be wrong.
Setting the damper to the "correct" drag factor is important if you're using lots of different machines, and it can vary quite a bit even for machines bought at the same time, and only ever used in the same gym. Proximity to a wall can also make a difference.
Even now, as a civilian, when I use one (rarely) I will always set it to 140, then plod away at 18 strokes a minute, usually hoping to manage 2:00 splits for 20 mins.
Back when I rowed, the tests that would be counted towards GB selection were always done at a drag factor of 140 for a heavyweight man. (>75kgs.)
I think it was 135 for lightweight men and heavyweight women, and 130 for lightweight women, but I never really needed to know that, so I might be wrong.
Setting the damper to the "correct" drag factor is important if you're using lots of different machines, and it can vary quite a bit even for machines bought at the same time, and only ever used in the same gym. Proximity to a wall can also make a difference.
Even now, as a civilian, when I use one (rarely) I will always set it to 140, then plod away at 18 strokes a minute, usually hoping to manage 2:00 splits for 20 mins.
garyhun said:
Birdster said:
Cool, thank you for the advice. I'll give it a try. I've only really just started out on the rowing machine and prefer to start correctly.
Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.
If you've been used to 10, you may think 5 too easy and start rowing faster Don't do this; focus on a really strong pull and keep your stroke rate somewhere from 24-30.Felt good afterwards. Will try 5 tomorrow when I go after work.
I'll be in the gym doing this tomorrow morning for 20 minutes so can share the pain
louiebaby said:
WRT to damper settings:
Back when I rowed, the tests that would be counted towards GB selection were always done at a drag factor of 140 for a heavyweight man. (>75kgs.)
I think it was 135 for lightweight men and heavyweight women, and 130 for lightweight women, but I never really needed to know that, so I might be wrong.
Setting the damper to the "correct" drag factor is important if you're using lots of different machines, and it can vary quite a bit even for machines bought at the same time, and only ever used in the same gym. Proximity to a wall can also make a difference.
Even now, as a civilian, when I use one (rarely) I will always set it to 140, then plod away at 18 strokes a minute, usually hoping to manage 2:00 splits for 20 mins.
Sorry if I'm being daft, but with the concept 2, there's only the 1-10 setting on the side, where would 140 fall on the scale of 1-10.Back when I rowed, the tests that would be counted towards GB selection were always done at a drag factor of 140 for a heavyweight man. (>75kgs.)
I think it was 135 for lightweight men and heavyweight women, and 130 for lightweight women, but I never really needed to know that, so I might be wrong.
Setting the damper to the "correct" drag factor is important if you're using lots of different machines, and it can vary quite a bit even for machines bought at the same time, and only ever used in the same gym. Proximity to a wall can also make a difference.
Even now, as a civilian, when I use one (rarely) I will always set it to 140, then plod away at 18 strokes a minute, usually hoping to manage 2:00 splits for 20 mins.
In between jobs I've been doing some reading. Want to do this properly.
http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=883...
Searching eBay for Concept 2 rowers.
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