Arghh Cutting! Not working well for me
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Revisting my thread...
About 4 weeks in on the 5:2 fast diet now. Half a stone off, BF% down from 22.3% to 20.2%, but the important part, no loss of strength on my lifts. I even managed to creep up a tiny bit on my bench and over head press.
When I started this I was kinda thinking eating only 600 cals the day after training is bound to have negative effects but so far, no problem.
Anyway have about another 3 weeks cutting then I'm done, if I can get down to 18% BF I'm happy.
About 4 weeks in on the 5:2 fast diet now. Half a stone off, BF% down from 22.3% to 20.2%, but the important part, no loss of strength on my lifts. I even managed to creep up a tiny bit on my bench and over head press.
When I started this I was kinda thinking eating only 600 cals the day after training is bound to have negative effects but so far, no problem.
Anyway have about another 3 weeks cutting then I'm done, if I can get down to 18% BF I'm happy.
stargazer30 said:
I love squats they just seem to hate me
My back ached doing squats and after watching this vid I now look down more and bend over at the top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbNA17KjBzU&li...
It feels a lot comfier and I can feel that I'm keeping my back straighter (less rounding) than before. It might be worth a try for you.
stargazer30 said:
Revisting my thread...
About 4 weeks in on the 5:2 fast diet now. Half a stone off, BF% down from 22.3% to 20.2%, but the important part, no loss of strength on my lifts. I even managed to creep up a tiny bit on my bench and over head press.
When I started this I was kinda thinking eating only 600 cals the day after training is bound to have negative effects but so far, no problem.
Anyway have about another 3 weeks cutting then I'm done, if I can get down to 18% BF I'm happy.
thanks for letting us know, good to know advice works out for people About 4 weeks in on the 5:2 fast diet now. Half a stone off, BF% down from 22.3% to 20.2%, but the important part, no loss of strength on my lifts. I even managed to creep up a tiny bit on my bench and over head press.
When I started this I was kinda thinking eating only 600 cals the day after training is bound to have negative effects but so far, no problem.
Anyway have about another 3 weeks cutting then I'm done, if I can get down to 18% BF I'm happy.
if you intend to use it ongoing...
I found your body adapts to this also (expected) but I found that if on normal eating days i returned to my old style of 'bodybuilding' eating i.e. every 2 hours (keeping metabolism stimulated) then this shocked the system back the other way, makes sense really as both styles of eating are at opposite ends of the spectrum, very difficult for you body to normaliser to this.
since doing this the 5:2 results have returned, for now..
Pvapour said:
stargazer30 said:
Revisting my thread...
About 4 weeks in on the 5:2 fast diet now. Half a stone off, BF% down from 22.3% to 20.2%, but the important part, no loss of strength on my lifts. I even managed to creep up a tiny bit on my bench and over head press.
When I started this I was kinda thinking eating only 600 cals the day after training is bound to have negative effects but so far, no problem.
Anyway have about another 3 weeks cutting then I'm done, if I can get down to 18% BF I'm happy.
thanks for letting us know, good to know advice works out for people About 4 weeks in on the 5:2 fast diet now. Half a stone off, BF% down from 22.3% to 20.2%, but the important part, no loss of strength on my lifts. I even managed to creep up a tiny bit on my bench and over head press.
When I started this I was kinda thinking eating only 600 cals the day after training is bound to have negative effects but so far, no problem.
Anyway have about another 3 weeks cutting then I'm done, if I can get down to 18% BF I'm happy.
if you intend to use it ongoing...
I found your body adapts to this also (expected) but I found that if on normal eating days i returned to my old style of 'bodybuilding' eating i.e. every 2 hours (keeping metabolism stimulated) then this shocked the system back the other way, makes sense really as both styles of eating are at opposite ends of the spectrum, very difficult for you body to normaliser to this.
since doing this the 5:2 results have returned, for now..
I've been doing 16:8, but after reading the posts about shocking the system, 5:2 actually makes more sense.
Way too fat to call it cutting
ORD said:
You should read up on the 'yo-yo' effect that comes with using any extreme weight loss approach. It's pretty troubling stuff. I would have thought you should try simple calorie control first.
Its not exactly extreme weight loss. You still average maintenance calories over the space of the week still. The only difference is you load the feed days and only eat 600 on the fast days. Even then the fast is 12 hours so it not a starvation job. TBH I don't really notice the fast/hunger much now. Also my weight loss has been about 2lb a week so its well within the safe limits.cliffe_mafia said:
stargazer30 said:
I love squats they just seem to hate me
My back ached doing squats and after watching this vid I now look down more and bend over at the top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbNA17KjBzU&li...
It feels a lot comfier and I can feel that I'm keeping my back straighter (less rounding) than before. It might be worth a try for you.
stargazer30 said:
Its not exactly extreme weight loss. You still average maintenance calories over the space of the week still. The only difference is you load the feed days and only eat 600 on the fast days. Even then the fast is 12 hours so it not a starvation job. TBH I don't really notice the fast/hunger much now. Also my weight loss has been about 2lb a week so its well within the safe limits.
A few people I work with use fasting diets and say they get good results. I'm a little baffled by it to be honest as my mind tells me that if they just ate the same amount of calories across the same period of time without the fasting bit, then they'd get the same results - Calories In Vs Calories Out.What does the fasting part do that assists with weight loss and has anybody tried both methods in controlled conditions to understand the real differences?
Autopilot said:
stargazer30 said:
Its not exactly extreme weight loss. You still average maintenance calories over the space of the week still. The only difference is you load the feed days and only eat 600 on the fast days. Even then the fast is 12 hours so it not a starvation job. TBH I don't really notice the fast/hunger much now. Also my weight loss has been about 2lb a week so its well within the safe limits.
A few people I work with use fasting diets and say they get good results. I'm a little baffled by it to be honest as my mind tells me that if they just ate the same amount of calories across the same period of time without the fasting bit, then they'd get the same results - Calories In Vs Calories Out.What does the fasting part do that assists with weight loss and has anybody tried both methods in controlled conditions to understand the real differences?
Pvapour said:
Autopilot said:
stargazer30 said:
Its not exactly extreme weight loss. You still average maintenance calories over the space of the week still. The only difference is you load the feed days and only eat 600 on the fast days. Even then the fast is 12 hours so it not a starvation job. TBH I don't really notice the fast/hunger much now. Also my weight loss has been about 2lb a week so its well within the safe limits.
A few people I work with use fasting diets and say they get good results. I'm a little baffled by it to be honest as my mind tells me that if they just ate the same amount of calories across the same period of time without the fasting bit, then they'd get the same results - Calories In Vs Calories Out.What does the fasting part do that assists with weight loss and has anybody tried both methods in controlled conditions to understand the real differences?
Also there is some science (not sure how true this one is) that says growth hormone is linked to insulin levels. Insulin suppresses growth hormone (which is used to burn off the fat as well as build muscle). So by having a constant intake of food (ie eating regular meals) we suppress the need to burn fat.
The first one I buy totally, not convinced the 2nd part is true but to be fair it does seem to be working for me. Just did a 5 rep 105kg squat yesterday which is a PR.
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