Going abroad for dental work

Going abroad for dental work

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Lancerevo

175 posts

144 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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I am off to Turkey in November flights £80 return. U.K. cost was nearly £20,000 cost in Turkey will be nearer £5000. So if I do need to return it will cost me £80.

psi310398

9,130 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Armitage.Shanks said:
Thread revival!

Interested in the Lithunia connection as I'm seriously thinking of having some work done now and it will be abroad as I'm not paying £14k+ in the UK.
I did ping her a message. Will chase.

Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Lancerevo said:
I am off to Turkey in November flights £80 return. U.K. cost was nearly £20,000 cost in Turkey will be nearer £5000. So if I do need to return it will cost me £80.
How did you pick the place you're going to - Referral? I've got my eye on Dental Centre Turkey but I'm sure there is one with a UK 'pre-inspection' clinic and whether this needs to be essential?

Fortunately I have copies of my full mouth X-Ray scan and pics (before I fell off the chair having been given the UK quote) so getting an idea of the work and cost by email should be straighforward.

tight fart

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2,923 posts

274 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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I used DCT, couldn’t fault them, I went for a 3d scan here first and they give an estimated from that.
I had 2 trips, the first visit was quite intense (1 week) the second visit we made a 2 week holiday out of the trip.
Everything is included in their quote that they do when you first arrive, they collect and return you
To your hotel, take you to a chemist should you need anything.
I stayed in the old town in Antayla both times and would definitely recommend that.

Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Well there's a surprise. From a UK price of £18k (reducing to £14k if I pay all upfront) I've just had a reply from Turkey.

For Zirconium Crowns (x15), 1 x implant (I have only one tooth awol and bridged) with all the work to sort out the others and overbite it comes to £3k. Using the best materials - Celtra crowns it's £4.8k. They gave a very comprehensive breakdown of the products they use and the procedures in perfect English! I've now sent a few more photos as they have asked for to see if they need to revise their prices. If they do I can't see them getting anywhere near to £14k.

I'm waiting for an Eastern European outfit to come back with a comparison.

For a middle aged bloke who's not looking for a set of gnashers like Rylans it looks like I will be going abroad for the job.

Patrick Star

183 posts

64 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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Can anyone who’s had work done abroad update please.

At some point in the near future I’m going to need all my railings replaced along with grafts etc.

I can imagine the cost being north of 20k here,so looking at options.

Thanks in advance.

Zio Di Roma

411 posts

33 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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Patrick Star said:
Can anyone who’s had work done abroad update please.

At some point in the near future I’m going to need all my railings replaced along with grafts etc.

I can imagine the cost being north of 20k here,so looking at options.

Thanks in advance.
Our dentist is a parent at the school that my children attend. He doesn't APPEAR like a billionaire. Why is dentistry so expensive here?

Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Patrick Star said:
Can anyone who’s had work done abroad update please.

At some point in the near future I’m going to need all my railings replaced along with grafts etc.

I can imagine the cost being north of 20k here,so looking at options.

Thanks in advance.
Ping a PM to @tighfart I'm sure he won't mind. I have spoken to him after getting some quotes from Turkey. He's provided reassurance they do a good job. I'm now waiting for a revised quote after sending X-Rays and Pics and from their initial assessment believe it will be a third of UK prices. what also surprises me with UK cosmetic dentists is they will only do cosmetic work, if you need a filling etc. they expect someone else to do it. That is not good practice in my book.

I also discussed my intentions with my NHS dentist the other day when I had some treatment. He has seen several patients with what he calls 'Turkey Teeth' and in his opinion the work has been very high quality. He also confirmed that he will still treat me if I have the work abroad for any problems I might have that don't require me to go back to Turkey, just that he won't accept liability. I'm happy with that arrangement.

Superbad

274 posts

182 months

Saturday 23rd October 2021
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This is a channel I follow on Youtube, car related so thought I'd post on here.

The guy had his teeth done and talks about his experience and costs.

Forward to 18mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wOhl1HXy-M

Patrick Star

183 posts

64 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Appreciate the replies. thumbup

Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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I'm now going next month to get sorted.

What persuaded me was showing the treatment plan to my regular NHS dentist who I have been seeing for over 20yrs. Based on what they suggest he concurs with what he would do, the choice of Crown material is 'top notch' and above what he could offer on the NHS.

I'll write a full update of the experience after the first visit. I would say that I am an ardent believer in the NHS and my UK dentist is superb but obviously limited to what he can offer. He chooses to work and remain in NHS rather than switch to the dark side of private/cosmetic treatment. For that I applaud him.

There are some private and cosmetic dentists that have tried to convince us on here the high treatment costs in the UK are wholly justified (equipment, training, production etc) but when you get a quote of £18k reducing to £14k if I pay 'upfront' that financial model does not sit right with me. Especially when it won't go as far as what I have been offered (at less than half the price) and a cosmetic dentist here will still farm you off to someone else to undertake any rudimentary/routine work required!

I have just discovered a friend's partner who is paying £20k for cosmetic treatment here and needed a root canal. This was 'farmed out' to a colleague's practice who left her in unbelievable pain and by the sounds of it made a mess. If a cosmetic dentist is that good to charge what they do then they should be confident and proficient to do all the work.

Mojooo

12,743 posts

181 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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My concern with some of these Turkish (and similar places) is that a lot of them seem to have no problem drilling down younger people who have healthy teeth down to stumps and giving them 20 crowns. Looks great now but probably not the best idea long term

Its different I spose if you are older with knackered teeth and genuinely need it

but that bloke in the above video didn't know/wasn't told he was getting a bridge - which is not ideal

Zio Di Roma

411 posts

33 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Mojooo said:
My concern with some of these Turkish (and similar places) is that a lot of them seem to have no problem drilling down younger people who have healthy teeth down to stumps and giving them 20 crowns. Looks great now but probably not the best idea long term
I had my teeth veneered in the 90s and a Turkish girlfriend of mine had hers done in Turkey at the same time. She came home looking like Esther Rantzen.



m3jappa

6,435 posts

219 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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I am following this as well.

I really should sort my teeth.....

5 implants needed

wonky, gappy, stained......

Got a quote from my local ace of spades drinking guy which was 27k!

I am just concerned to have them done there and have any issues or even have local dentists refuse to do any work (how pleasant of them).

Rollin

6,097 posts

246 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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m3jappa said:
I am following this as well.

I really should sort my teeth.....

5 implants needed

wonky, gappy, stained......

Got a quote from my local ace of spades drinking guy which was 27k!

I am just concerned to have them done there and have any issues or even have local dentists refuse to do any work (how pleasant of them).
Do these places in Turkey not offer any warranties on their work?

When the patient realises that fixing their problems in the UK isn't at Turkey prices, it's usually out with the forceps. Then when the Dental Law Partnership get involved for the compo, who do you think is easiest to sue for the missing tooth?

I've seen several people who have had treatment abroad recently who were totally unsuitable candidates for what they had done. They didn't look after their teeth before and they don't now.







Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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There's a balance between fixing teeth and going for asthetic perfection. I'll admit people go to Turkey and other overseas places for the perfect smile and teeth alignment and probably sacrifice good teeth in the process. That's more about image than solving problems or preventing issues down the line. Or they go to a UK cosmetic dentist and pay the inflated prices.

The NHS dentist in the 70s knackered my teeth. He gave me fillings I didn't need and 4 front crowns to line up the teeth. All a good earner to him (as well as convincing my Mum who had a few bob and no idea of dentistry to pay for them) at the time but no thought to long term damage. I suspect a lot of more mature members on here have suffered similar. Dentists then were paid per treatment so it made sense the more they could do in a single visit the more they were paid. I have heard that one dentist had 3 chairs in his surgery and treated 3 people at once through the fog of amalgam dust! A good little earner until the authority got wise to it.

Would I have it done in my 30s/40s, No. Now at 57 despite having only one tooth extraction up to now, I have plenty of amalgam fillings, molar teeth built up where they have broke, several root canals and some more crowns at the back where the tooth could not be reconstructed. The full X-Ray I sent to Turkey came back with a treatment plan, was near replicated by a surgery in Budapest (for comparison) and struck a chord with my dentist. If they end up straighter and whiter then that's a bonus but not an imperative.

I've an overbite and most of us will have 'wonky' front bottom teeth through evolution and over-cramming if you still have wisdom teeth. There are ways of straightening them that can take years with a brace etc or I suspect they can be shaped with crowns which is what some places will do as it's quick/cheaper. My crowns are old and will not be replaced by NHS until they become a serious problem so that is my start point along with removing amalgam fillings and getting rid of the bridge by implanting the lost tooth. A lot of people don't know how bad their teeth are until they have full X-rays etc..

I'm not wanting to look like Rylan nor do I want a shade that belongs on a Hollywood soap set, it's more preventative and preservation work that should give me another 15-20yrs - if I live that long. After that I won't really care. There's also the reassurance my UK dentist will continue to see me and will undertake treatment but on a no liability basis. That said a flight is £80 rtn. If my dentist gave me any concerns over than the questions he suggests I ask then I wouldn't go but nor would I pay £20k+ for the job in the UK.

Who knows, if it all goes pear shaped I'll perhaps stand a good chance in a gurning competition.

CrackTaxi

135 posts

108 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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Armitage.Shanks said:
Who knows, if it all goes pear shaped I'll perhaps stand a good chance in a gurning competition.
How did it go? Any updates?

Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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CrackTaxi said:
Armitage.Shanks said:
Who knows, if it all goes pear shaped I'll perhaps stand a good chance in a gurning competition.
How did it go? Any updates?
Not back until June for second stage. All well so far. My UK dentist is very very impressed with the quality of the work even though they are only temporary Crowns.

Patrick Star

183 posts

64 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Armitage.Shanks said:
CrackTaxi said:
Armitage.Shanks said:
Who knows, if it all goes pear shaped I'll perhaps stand a good chance in a gurning competition.
How did it go? Any updates?
Not back until June for second stage. All well so far. My UK dentist is very very impressed with the quality of the work even though they are only temporary Crowns.
Did you update anywhere else???

tight fart

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2,923 posts

274 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Small update, 4 years on I broke a tooth on an implant, struggled at home to get it fixed, I emailed DCT in Turkey and they offered to contribute to the cost of a repair in the uk, or fix for free if I returned.
So we decided to have a holiday and return.
They gave me 3 options.
1, have the tooth stuck back in, no warranty.
2, a new tooth made, but they weren’t keen on this.
3, have 2 new implants made and fitted, this would give a lifetime warranty.
All options were up to me and all free of charge.
Including the hotel transfers X-rays etc.
I don’t think that’s bad, not sure you’d get that at home.