Pre Diabetic - what to do

Pre Diabetic - what to do

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Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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It wasn't a fasting blood test.

My GP surgery just called to make an appointment with me for the nurse to discuss the test results, I mentioned the letter and she asked if it came from a third party as she said other people had mentioned receiving it. I said it was all NHS branded no mention of a third party but she seemed adamant it hadn't come from them.

Anyway, she said it's unlikely to be serious as they'd be calling me in immediately and I'd be better speaking to the nurse rather than my GP (so that appt has been cancelled). It'll be the 17th now before I know any more.

Phil.

4,773 posts

251 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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ORD said:
Phil. said:
ORD said:
Phil. said:
Oh dear, how embarrassing.

Stop flapping about unknowns and speak to you GP.

Nothing to speak to my GP about, you pointlessly unpleasant person.
I’ve been trying to help you but you are so ignorant and dismissive it’s unbelievable.
Anyone who disagrees with you is ‘ignorant’.
You haven’t disagreed with me you’ve disagreed with Dr David Unwin, who’s an expert on treating/reversing diabetes. But you didn’t even check the link I posted, did you. Carry on digging a hole for yourself. laugh

Phil.

4,773 posts

251 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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Vasco said:
I recognise that 'Phil' takes a keen interest in this issue, and has clearly amassed a good deal of useful knowledge.
He can be helpful at times but would help other people more if he was to simply accept that there is not just one view, or just one expert.

Edited by Vasco on Tuesday 7th September 15:03
Just what is the purpose of this comment? Are you me telling off? Do you want others to jump on your band wagon and support your anti-Phil views?

Try taking a look at some of the rubbish you often post before attempting to discredit others.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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Oakey said:
It would have been nice if they'd given me the figure rather than springing it on me with "You have high blood sugar and are at risk of Type 2 diabetes, but hey, do you want to join our seminar?"

Obviously the first thing I did was Google high blood sugar and I see that it can be a sign of a heart attack or stroke which was the bit that concerned me as I had chest pain for half a day a few weeks ago which I just dismissed as straining myself.

Regards diabetes, I can't get my head around it, I primarily only drink sugar-free flavoured water, I have sweeteners in brews and I don't put sugar on breakfast cereal. Seriously, it's like "what the fk, are you sure you have the right person?"
High blood sugar isn't caused by eating large quantities of sugar. It could be a pancreas issue unrelated to diabtetes or some kind of hormone imbalance. Obviously eating more calories increases the risk of obesity which in turn increases the risk of diabetes, but eating low quantities of sugar isn't going to make you immune t o diabetes.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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I've just noticed this letter has the HbA1c result, it's 42, same as OP.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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Oakey said:
I had a blood test recently but I've yet to speak to my GP about the results (and won't do until the 16th). Yet I came home this afternoon to find a letter from the NHS telling me that a recent blood test showed I had high blood sugar levels and that I was at risk of Type 2 diabetes and do I want to join some remote seminar.

I'm completely dumbfounded about this or what any of it means. I'm 39, not overweight (5'10", 10st), I stay active, I exercise and I didn't think my diet was particularly bad.

I don't know how I'm supposed to process this news for another 10 days until I can speak to my GP.
I think you'll survive, it's not like you've got untreatable cancer and a week to live.
If you actually go back and the read the thread (especially my post on P3) it'll answer a few of your questions.
So far we've had you live on Weetabix, you must eat other things right?
It's from grain, anything from grain is bad, you need to cut down on it from now on.
Welcome to your new diet, mmmm, nom, nom lick

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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So the pasta my mrs is currently making is to go straight in the bin? biggrin

Vasco

16,479 posts

106 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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Phil. said:
Vasco said:
I recognise that 'Phil' takes a keen interest in this issue, and has clearly amassed a good deal of useful knowledge.
He can be helpful at times but would help other people more if he was to simply accept that there is not just one view, or just one expert.

Edited by Vasco on Tuesday 7th September 15:03
Just what is the purpose of this comment? Are you me telling off? Do you want others to jump on your band wagon and support your anti-Phil views?

Try taking a look at some of the rubbish you often post before attempting to discredit others.
Good heavens, you're getting more paranoid by the day!. Perhaps you'd be better finding an expert for that too......

I was actually trying to support you, your knowledge and interest in the subject. My only proviso was that you seem to think there is only one view, and only one expert.

Just try understanding people a bit more, and get off that arrogant high horse.

Phil.

4,773 posts

251 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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Vasco said:
Good heavens, you're getting more paranoid by the day!. Perhaps you'd be better finding an expert for that too......

I was actually trying to support you, your knowledge and interest in the subject. My only proviso was that you seem to think there is only one view, and only one expert.

Just try understanding people a bit more, and get off that arrogant high horse.
Arrogant high horse. Pot kettle black.

Yes, you were ‘trying’ to support whilst taking a personal and unjustified dig. Unhelpful.

Everything I have posted on this thread has been fact (except when responding to small minded responses).

I’ve been living with insulin resistance for years. It’s not fun and if I get it wrong then I die early. Simple as that.

In the early days of my diagnosis the NHS gave wrong advice to people with elevated blood sugars, and this is why I had to undertake my own research and continue to do so. It’s a very big and complex topic which is also engaging when you begging to understand the metabolic levers and responses that affect you and have been with you your entire life without you understanding why.

Thankfully the formal advice is changing now and there is some simple advice out there approved by the NHS, some of which I shared today and was told it was untrue!

I know masses more about low glycemic diet, insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome and coronary artery calcium (all of which are linked) that I could never post on this thread because people want to keep it simple or have fixed beliefs about calories-in-out diets.

I have mentioned Dr David Unwin a few times because he’s offering a simple and successful NHS approved way forward for people with elevated glucose levels to reverse their condition which could help the OP and others new to dealing with elevated glucose levels. I’ve also mentioned Prof Roy Talyor at Newcastle University. I could cite many more respected experts and their views but their messages wouldn’t be simple enough for this thread, according to you.

Therefore I don’t understand your claim that ‘I think there is only one view and only one expert’. Feel free to justify your statement or perhaps withdraw it.

Vasco

16,479 posts

106 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Phil. said:
Vasco said:
Good heavens, you're getting more paranoid by the day!. Perhaps you'd be better finding an expert for that too......

I was actually trying to support you, your knowledge and interest in the subject. My only proviso was that you seem to think there is only one view, and only one expert.

Just try understanding people a bit more, and get off that arrogant high horse.
Arrogant high horse. Pot kettle black.

Yes, you were ‘trying’ to support whilst taking a personal and unjustified dig. Unhelpful.

Everything I have posted on this thread has been fact (except when responding to small minded responses).

I’ve been living with insulin resistance for years. It’s not fun and if I get it wrong then I die early. Simple as that.

In the early days of my diagnosis the NHS gave wrong advice to people with elevated blood sugars, and this is why I had to undertake my own research and continue to do so. It’s a very big and complex topic which is also engaging when you begging to understand the metabolic levers and responses that affect you and have been with you your entire life without you understanding why.

Thankfully the formal advice is changing now and there is some simple advice out there approved by the NHS, some of which I shared today and was told it was untrue!

I know masses more about low glycemic diet, insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome and coronary artery calcium (all of which are linked) that I could never post on this thread because people want to keep it simple or have fixed beliefs about calories-in-out diets.

I have mentioned Dr David Unwin a few times because he’s offering a simple and successful NHS approved way forward for people with elevated glucose levels to reverse their condition which could help the OP and others new to dealing with elevated glucose levels. I’ve also mentioned Prof Roy Talyor at Newcastle University. I could cite many more respected experts and their views but their messages wouldn’t be simple enough for this thread, according to you.

Therefore I don’t understand your claim that ‘I think there is only one view and only one expert’. Feel free to justify your statement or perhaps withdraw it.
Just try to keep it factual, without the occasional abuse of those who express different views, and you'll probably take more people along with your (helpful) comments.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Phil. said:
I’ve been living with insulin resistance for years. It’s not fun and if I get it wrong then I die early. Simple as that.

Out of interest, do you exercise every day, and get plenty fibre in your diet? And are you a reasonable BMI?

MXRod

2,754 posts

148 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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I have been pre diabetic for many years (runs in the family) countless blood tests show me borderline.
I tried diet and managed a micro shift in blood sugar , little short of not eating at all I have given up , eat very little in the way of pastries and sweets my only indulgence is to have 1 cube of brown sugar in my daily coffee .
So now I just get on with life (75 and still fit , ish ) outlived my father who was insulin dependent but refused to acknowledge the fact , and , hiding prostate problems .So sometimes the quality of life is better the worrying yourself to an early grave. NOTE this is me , opinion , not fact !!

Phil.

4,773 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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didelydoo said:
Out of interest, do you exercise every day, and get plenty fibre in your diet? And are you a reasonable BMI?
What is the purpose of your question?

Phil.

4,773 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Vasco said:
Just try to keep it factual, without the occasional abuse of those who express different views, and you'll probably take more people along with your (helpful) comments.
Thanks dad. I feel for your kids rolleyes

Phil.

4,773 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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MXRod said:
I have been pre diabetic for many years (runs in the family) countless blood tests show me borderline.
I tried diet and managed a micro shift in blood sugar , little short of not eating at all I have given up , eat very little in the way of pastries and sweets my only indulgence is to have 1 cube of brown sugar in my daily coffee .
So now I just get on with life (75 and still fit , ish ) outlived my father who was insulin dependent but refused to acknowledge the fact , and , hiding prostate problems .So sometimes the quality of life is better the worrying yourself to an early grave. NOTE this is me , opinion , not fact !!
Good for you. I see people on social media with IR (that I agree is genetic in some people) who follow the perfect diet and lifestyle. It’s tough though to do this all the time. Everyone has to compromise over the long term. Life is for living.

MC Bodge

21,711 posts

176 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Phil. said:
didelydoo said:
Out of interest, do you exercise every day, and get plenty fibre in your diet? And are you a reasonable BMI?
What is the purpose of your question?
Why not just answer it?

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Phil. said:
What is the purpose of your question?
To get an answer? I was just interested in your lifestyle approach as you’ve obviously read up on the subject, but never mind, I don’t care enough if you’d rather not answer!

Vasco

16,479 posts

106 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Phil. said:
Vasco said:
Just try to keep it factual, without the occasional abuse of those who express different views, and you'll probably take more people along with your (helpful) comments.
Thanks dad. I feel for your kids rolleyes
Ah, a bit more abuse. You really can't stop yourself can you.
Seems that you may need medical help for not just diabetes.

Vasco

16,479 posts

106 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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MC Bodge

21,711 posts

176 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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didelydoo said:
Phil. said:
What is the purpose of your question?
To get an answer? I was just interested in your lifestyle approach as you’ve obviously read up on the subject, but never mind, I don’t care enough if you’d rather not answer!
Are we allowed to speculate on the answers?