Pre Diabetic - what to do

[MC Bodge]

Oakey said:

It would have been nice if they'd given me the figure rather than springing it on me with "You have high blood sugar and are at risk of Type 2 diabetes, but hey, do you want to join our seminar?"

Obviously the first thing I did was Google high blood sugar and I see that it can be a sign of a heart attack or stroke which was the bit that concerned me as I had chest pain for half a day a few weeks ago which I just dismissed as straining myself.

Regards diabetes, I can't get my head around it, I primarily only drink sugar-free flavoured water, I have sweeteners in brews and I don't put sugar on breakfast cereal. Seriously, it's like "what the fk, are you sure you have the right person?"

Are you overweight? Have you done a food & drink diary? Did you eat a bag of sweets before the test?

[ORD]

My perception is that lots of people have very high sugar (and very high carb) diets and don’t realise it.

I have a relative - a doctor no less - who used to poptarts for breakfast every day. Just mind-blowing.

[Oakey]

I eat Weetabix. Not overweight, I've actually lost weight this year (from 11st to 10st)

[MC Bodge]

Oakey said:

I eat Weetabix. Not overweight, I've actually lost weight this year (from 11st to 10st)

Can you be re-tested?

How old are you? Some people have undiagnosed Type 1, apparently.

[Phil.]

Oakey said:

I eat Weetabix. Not overweight, I've actually lost weight this year (from 11st to 10st)

Weetabix contains 69g of carbs and 4g of sugar per 100g, or more than 70% carbs/sugar.

Losing weight can be a sign of increased blood sugars.

Being insulin resistant (which causes increased blood sugars) is not limited to overweight people.

As you say, you need the facts and to speak to your doctor.

[Oakey]

Weetabix is 1.7g sugar per 2 biscuits according to the Diabetes website.

I'm 39 with a 30" waist. Unless I'm carrying dark matter it'd be incredible if I was overweight.

Is this something that could be a fluke, ie, it was high at the time of testing but may have gone back to normal since then?

Is it worth getting one of those testing kits?

[Phil.]

Oakey said:

Weetabix is 1.7g sugar per 2 biscuits according to the Diabetes website.

I'm 39 with a 30" waist. Unless I'm carrying dark matter it'd be incredible if I was overweight.

Is this something that could be a fluke, ie, it was high at the time of testing but may have gone back to normal since then?

Is it worth getting one of those testing kits?

Carbs are sugar when it comes to the glycaemic index and diabetes:



https://phcuk.org/sugar/

[ORD]

Phil. said:

Oakey said:

Weetabix is 1.7g sugar per 2 biscuits according to the Diabetes website.

I'm 39 with a 30" waist. Unless I'm carrying dark matter it'd be incredible if I was overweight.

Is this something that could be a fluke, ie, it was high at the time of testing but may have gone back to normal since then?

Is it worth getting one of those testing kits?

Carbs are sugar when it comes to the glycaemic index and diabetes:



https://phcuk.org/sugar/

No, they’re not. But you already knew that.

[ORD]

Oakey said:

Weetabix is 1.7g sugar per 2 biscuits according to the Diabetes website.

I'm 39 with a 30" waist. Unless I'm carrying dark matter it'd be incredible if I was overweight.

Is this something that could be a fluke, ie, it was high at the time of testing but may have gone back to normal since then?

Is it worth getting one of those testing kits?

It’s still a bit surprising, but there are sedentary thin people who have blood profiles more similar to obese people. Type 2 diabetes is coming down the tracks to smash the U.K. population in middle age, sadly.

[MC Bodge]

ORD said:

It’s still a bit surprising, but there are sedentary thin people who have blood profiles more similar to obese people. Type 2 diabetes is coming down the tracks to smash the U.K. population in middle age, sadly.

When US food and standards are allowed in the UK, with its generous proportions of lovely High Fructose Corn Syrup, are things going to improve?

[otolith]

MC Bodge said:

When US food and standards are allowed in the UK, with its generous proportions of lovely High Fructose Corn Syrup, are things going to improve?

Just rebrand HFCS as "vegan honey" - it's basically the same sugar profile!

[MC Bodge]

otolith said:

MC Bodge said:

When US food and standards are allowed in the UK, with its generous proportions of lovely High Fructose Corn Syrup, are things going to improve?

Just rebrand HFCS as "vegan honey" - it's basically the same sugar profile!

I wouldn't recommend adding huge quantities of honey to all kinds of food and drink either.

[ORD]

MC Bodge said:

ORD said:

It’s still a bit surprising, but there are sedentary thin people who have blood profiles more similar to obese people. Type 2 diabetes is coming down the tracks to smash the U.K. population in middle age, sadly.

When US food and standards are allowed in the UK, with its generous proportions of lovely High Fructose Corn Syrup, are things going to improve?

HFCS isn’t actually that different from lots of other sweet liquids (as has been pointed out re honey).

But it’s pretty nasty stuff, for sure.

[Phil.]

ORD said:

No, they’re not. But you already knew that.

Oh dear, how embarrassing.

Stop flapping about unknowns and speak to you GP.

[ORD]

Phil. said:

Oh dear, how embarrassing.

Stop flapping about unknowns and speak to you GP.

Nothing to speak to my GP about, you pointlessly unpleasant person.

[Phil.]

ORD said:

Phil. said:

Oh dear, how embarrassing.

Stop flapping about unknowns and speak to you GP.

Nothing to speak to my GP about, you pointlessly unpleasant person.

I’ve been trying to help you but you are so ignorant and dismissive it’s unbelievable.

[ORD]

Phil. said:

ORD said:

Phil. said:

Oh dear, how embarrassing.

Stop flapping about unknowns and speak to you GP.

Nothing to speak to my GP about, you pointlessly unpleasant person.

I’ve been trying to help you but you are so ignorant and dismissive it’s unbelievable.

Anyone who disagrees with you is ‘ignorant’.

[didelydoo]

Phil. said:

Carbs are sugar when it comes to the glycaemic index and diabetes:



https://phcuk.org/sugar/

Why not consult the insulin index to, as to foods that spike insulin- they should surely be avoided too. Given that fish, eggs and beef spike it as much as oats and pasta- they’re surely the same as sugar?

Or is it just the carbs that spike insulin we want to avoid?

[PurplePangolin]

Oakey said:

Weetabix is 1.7g sugar per 2 biscuits according to the Diabetes website.

I'm 39 with a 30" waist. Unless I'm carrying dark matter it'd be incredible if I was overweight.

Is this something that could be a fluke, ie, it was high at the time of testing but may have gone back to normal since then?

Is it worth getting one of those testing kits?

Get some urine test strips or if feeling brave blood glucose meter.

The docs test would show a longer term level of blood glucose - did you fast before the test?

[Vasco]

I recognise that 'Phil' takes a keen interest in this issue, and has clearly amassed a good deal of useful knowledge.
He can be helpful at times but would help other people more if he was to simply accept that there is not just one view, or just one expert.

Edited by Vasco on Tuesday 7th September 15:03