Tinnitus

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PositronicRay

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27,026 posts

183 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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I've been to the doctors, they say a little wax build up but it's not the cause. Getting worse and pretty much all rhe time now. I think (hope?) It is wax.

Doc has reffered me to................specsavers.

Regbuser

3,498 posts

35 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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NDA said:
I have tinnitus - shooting in my youth without ear protection and music too loud
Similar, detonations, heavy machinery, and music have contributed to:

Left ear > https://youtu.be/WbEGmghn_jo

Middle (empty) space > https://youtu.be/ZACpt-xikIs

Right ear > from a whistle, up to > https://youtu.be/lcS_NfZ8Hsg

The right ear is my stress bellwether; when that ramps up then it's time to go for a long walk (or to the nearest bar)

Perseverant

439 posts

111 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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I have slight tinnitus which is stress related - at least that was what the hearing tester said was most likely. It had been getting worse and worse and I was referred to local hospital. The poor doctor looked a bit bemused when I said that the sound sounded like the noise that injectors on a steam locomotive make, and in a way I didn't mind because it was nostalgic. Since I retired a few years ago, it hasn't been nearly as intrusive.
On a slightly different tack, my late father had dreadful tinnitus caused by aero engine noise during the war and service post war - he got an enhanced pension as a result which didn't really compensate for communicating by notes and letters in his last years as he'd largely forgotten how to communicate through just chat.
These days if it's particularly annoying, I'll listen to some music fairly loud or play something on a guitar and put my ear on the body - it has to be something really simple to accommodate the contortion. Sympathy to all.

beedj

434 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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ian in lancs said:
Thanks! I’ll try them in the gym! They play crap radio stations, crap daytime tv or shout into a mic over distorted crap music for circuits. I tend to use industrial foam earplugs for the latter or Bose noise cancelling headphones for the rest!
Also have a look at these… https://acscustom.com/uk/ yes they’re 10x price but custom moulded (at your local Boots hearing specialist, or similar) and a world apart from foam or the 'professional' type plugs on Amazon . You can choose level of DB reduction and they offer free exchange of the DB filter if you feel you’ve gone too low or high

ian in lancs

3,772 posts

198 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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beedj said:
Also have a look at these… https://acscustom.com/uk/ yes they’re 10x price but custom moulded (at your local Boots hearing specialist, or similar) and a world apart from foam or the 'professional' type plugs on Amazon . You can choose level of DB reduction and they offer free exchange of the DB filter if you feel you’ve gone too low or high
Wow! Impresssive!

HotJambalaya

2,026 posts

180 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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wow, i came here looking for this, and it was at the top of the page...

Well, I'm now in the club it seems, i think i damaged the ear walking infront of some insanely loud speakers a few months back. It doesnt really bother me day to day, but i hear the ringing clearly at night. Since I spend a lot of time in loud music environments, i've got simple ear plugs, but am looking now at having custom ones fitted too...

The one thing i dont want is for it to be getting worse!

Panamax

4,043 posts

34 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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HotJambalaya said:
i think i damaged the ear walking infront of some insanely loud speakers a few months back.
Unlikely, but not impossible.

HotJambalaya said:
I spend a lot of time in loud music environments
Likely, whether one long session or many repeated sessions.


Hearing damage is significantly influenced by the length of time you're exposed to the excessive noise over 85db. There's a handy guide on this link which shows sound level vs exposure time.
http://dangerousdecibels.org/education/information...




HotJambalaya

2,026 posts

180 months

Friday 30th June 2023
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Well, just had ear wax removal done, one ear was totally clear and the other one had a tiny bit that needed removal so no difference at all in hearing.

Next step is having some custom ear plugs made. Going for those ACS mentioned upthread, slight drawback is that they said they'll take 4-5 weeks from ear moulds being made to receiving them. In the meantime i have some temporary ones. Seems to be worth calling around, one place near me was charging £220 and a place right next to them is £149

PositronicRay

Original Poster:

27,026 posts

183 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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Back from specsavers.

Hearing checked, all within tolerance, one ear vacuumed a chunk of wax came out.

No difference in tinnitus or hearing. No charge.

bodhi

10,505 posts

229 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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This is something I've always had after a misspent youth at various concerts, nightclubs, and generally being one of those people Sony had to put volume limits on Walkmans for. However after coming back from Vietnam last month it's got progressively worse in my left ear, along with a general blocked feeling. It's like after we landed from the flight from Singapore my left ear never really got back to "normal".

Anyway after thinking it was wax and waiting a couple of weeks to sort itself out, I bit the bullet and went for a Specsavers hearing test which I'm just back from. I was fully expecting a massive lump of wax to come out, however on examination there was no wax at all, just some dryness and redness where I'd been trying to clear it out.

Hearing test went ok, right ear is perfect, left ear is showing "mild" hearing loss, which was massively reduced with the second test with the headphone directly on the nerve (?).

Long story short the entire experience was fairly painless and free, and I've been "urgently" referred to ENT. I'm hoping it's fluid build up or airplane ear and not something more sinister....

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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I don’t know if this is of any interest or any good, but saw talk of it on another site.

https://www.lenire.com/

Panamax

4,043 posts

34 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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I'm sceptical. Only available through a network of partner clinics and costing well north of £2,000 for some cheap, battery powered components.

Tinnitushub reported, "In our opinion – based on the currently available evidence – Lenire is not proven to be meaningfully more effective than (a combination of) existing treatment options such as sound therapy, hearing aids and counselling."

goldor

17 posts

8 months

Sunday 17th March
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Did anyone try a tinnitus masker? I'm thinking about it, but it would be great to find out other people's experiences first.

OldSkoolRS

6,750 posts

179 months

Sunday 17th March
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Interesting to read about Specsavers as I've been considering going just to get my ears properly cleaned out. Perhaps I'm falsely clinging to a hope that they are just a bit blocked but my hearing seems to be getting worse and continually asking people to repeat themselves.

I've suffered tinnitus for years due to playing drums/guitar and also using angle grinders without ear protection: I can hear mine over the car at 70mph, so it's not like I need a quiet room to hear it. Of course thinking/writing about it makes it become prominent as sometimes I can just tune out from it, despite the high level.

Kind of given up on any idea of the tinnitus being improved, though I now always wear ear protection when playing gigs/rehearsals or when doing any noisy DIY to try to stop it getting worse. I would like to see if there is any wax build up though, but having read this thread I'm wary of going to Specsavers as I had planned: I don't want the hard sell of hearing aids, but I thought it might be easier than trying to get my GP to clean them as any appointment seems difficult to make these days. frown

Any alternative recommendations for cleaning other than trying drops (again)?


thebraketester

14,234 posts

138 months

Sunday 17th March
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Google [bot] said:
I don’t know if this is of any interest or any good, but saw talk of it on another site.

https://www.lenire.com/
Stinks like BS to me. The website is pure marketing with almost zero scientific information.

NDA

21,578 posts

225 months

Sunday 17th March
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OldSkoolRS said:
Any alternative recommendations for cleaning other than trying drops (again)?
A couple.

1. Hearing aids. These can make a difference, but are expensive. Some have tinnitus (notch therapy) settings. I have a pair of inner ear ones which I wear when my tinnitus is bad. They restore the high frequencies (to a large degree) and this seems to dial down the tinnitus. It is recommended that you should wear hearing aids all day to get the brain accustomed to hearing high frequencies again - I don't, but I can see it's a good thing.

2. Airbud/AirPods. There are apps on the app store that can match the frequency of your tinnitus - these are quite helpful in fighting the effects.

3. Trying very hard not to think about it. Good luck with that! smile

HTH

Caddyshack

10,818 posts

206 months

Sunday 17th March
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ian in lancs said:
My mother was extremely deaf from 18 to 94 when she died. Deafness exacerbated by surgical damage. No hearing aid on earth would fix it. However specsavers managed to convince an old lady their £2k aids would help her hear better. Eventually we got the money back. I was fuming over the unfulfillable expectation, unfair advantage taken and monetisation. / profiteering. Suffice to say they’re not on my Christmas list!
Spec savers were desperate to sell my father some hearing aids, I am sure they were quoting something in the region of £5K. They also tried to tell him that the hearing aids would help with his tinnitus.

Luckily my mother was there and sees right through this sort of BS, but my father would have been signing on the dotted line if he was allowed to go by himself.
Hearing aids really helped my tinnitus. One cause of tinnitus is the brain filling in the sound it cannot hear, when the brain then hears again it can be helped. When I take my aids out my tinnitus goes through the roof.

OldSkoolRS

6,750 posts

179 months

Sunday 17th March
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NDA said:
A couple.

1. Hearing aids. These can make a difference, but are expensive. Some have tinnitus (notch therapy) settings. I have a pair of inner ear ones which I wear when my tinnitus is bad. They restore the high frequencies (to a large degree) and this seems to dial down the tinnitus. It is recommended that you should wear hearing aids all day to get the brain accustomed to hearing high frequencies again - I don't, but I can see it's a good thing.

2. Airbud/AirPods. There are apps on the app store that can match the frequency of your tinnitus - these are quite helpful in fighting the effects.

3. Trying very hard not to think about it. Good luck with that! smile

HTH
Cheers NDA. I was really asking about getting the wax cleared though...I've just learned to live with the tinnitus now after all these years; I tend to tune out from it unless I think about it (like now biggrin ).

SV_WDC

707 posts

89 months

Monday 18th March
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I'd really recommend the ACS moulds mentioned previously in this thread.

I had some back in 2010 but lost mine a few years ago at Silverstone frown. Just ordering some new ones now.

The ER-20's were what I had for years of clubbing and worked very well. What's great about them too is the way they direct the sound straight to your ear drum, you can have a conversation with someone at normal volume in a club & hear them better than if they were shouting if you didn't have them in

Bryanwww

397 posts

139 months

Monday 18th March
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I've recently gotten a motorbike - exhaust has a dbkiller in and it's meant to still be around 85db. I've started getting tinnitus since riding it - mostly London commuting so not high speed at all. I've tried a foam ear plugs where I can barely hear anything, the £20 filtered earplugs and noise cancelling in ear headphones (couldn't even hear sirens with these in) but still get ringing ears after a ride. Is it just caused by loud noise or could tone or just vibrations be causing it - it's definitely worse on ear on exhaust side especially without ear plugs in.