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Dr Interceptor

7,774 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Good work! biggrin

Still trying... Managing to get the gym twice a week. That seems to be working... I can now get in there, pedal 15km, then spend 15-20 mins on the cross trainer, and row 2000 metres in sub 7m50s... Big improvement on when I first started going.

Initially put on a bit of weight, up to 19st 3lb, now down to 18st 8lb.

Booze is still my downfall, but I'm on a 'dry week' this week.

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Keep it up, its going in the right direction, can I ask ? are you doing any strength training, there is a school of thought that for guys over 40 (which I seem to remember is a category you are in) tonnes of cardio isnt really a great idea and should be more biased towards strength training.

I am cycling to work 3 days a week, 14 mile trip, gym a couple of times a week and nipping in my man shed for an hour doing some weights once or twice a week, walking the dog most nights for 30 mins or so.

I too struggle to give up booze entirely, had a few this weekend, but tend to not go as mad and not as often, trying to swap beer for spirits and diet mixers,

My theory is I need to go off the rails a bit, occasionally but not completely and the next day get right back on it, save some calories during the day if you are going out for a meal, dont over order (my big mistake usually), dont get dispirited if you dont lose or go up a little, if you are doing it right, it will come off, its a long haul not a sprint, needs to be permanent really though when I am at my goal weight I can probably eat a bit more, but not revert to how I was before and I am resigned to weighing myself every day for the rest of my life.


My mum made me a Coconut cake for my birthday, now there are many things I can take or leave, cake doesnt interest me as a rule but that, oh my god it has been difficult, had a piece on Sunday night and a small bit last night, luckily my youngest is hammering it, one more small bit and that is me done, thats the way to do it, small bit, make sure it fits in your daily allowances and enjoy it, then tell her not to make another for a while to avoid further derailment.

Dr Interceptor

7,774 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I'm 33, so not quite in the over 40 camp just yet... I've always been a big chap though ever since my teenage years. Although it was at uni where I really piled it on.

Haven't done any strength training yet, just been improving cardio. I will start introducing some weights over the next few weeks.

Christmas is going to be tough... I'm flying to Miami on the 18th Dec and heading on a bit of a road trip, flying back from Vegas on the 12th Jan. 3.5 weeks of beers, eating out, and travelling will take their toll. I've booked hotels with gyms though, hopefully be able to minimise the damage! biggrin

Coconut cake sounds lush wink

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Always thought you were older, apologies ! must be owning an Interceptor, always assume owners of those are older chaps.

Just try and do some damage limitation to avoid coming back 20 st plus biggrin

And go dry until you go, make some room.


Dr Interceptor

7,774 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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J4CKO said:
Always thought you were older, apologies ! must be owning an Interceptor, always assume owners of those are older chaps.

Just try and do some damage limitation to avoid coming back 20 st plus biggrin

And go dry until you go, make some room.
I guess from my garage you'd be forgiven for thinking I was 40+ biggrin

Another bit of car-related motivation... I've just bought a little Mini (1990 RSP), and want to take it on the Italian Job next year... 3000 miles round Europe in 2.5 weeks... I'm going to need to be fit, and lighter. Wonder what I can get to by October next year?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I think I should really make myself known on here.

Toddled on to the scales this morning and tipped the balance at 14.5 stone - which is the heaviest I have ever been. At 5' 9" this totters me onto/over the borderline from over weight into obese....

I would say I am tubby - but scales and to be honest, clothes fit, don't lie.

I am very similar to Dr Interceptor in terms of my poor relationship with booze. I did a 10 days on only water thing - and all that really got to me was the lack of flavour in drinks rather than no booze per se. So I don't have a problem putting it down when I decide to put it down.

But it has crept into a most nights occurance and I will always have a second or third glass of wine, and that's a problematic place to be at. So step one is deciding to put it down a lot more.

I don't want to drop it totally, because I really like a nice ale/wine/malt. But the indulgences are too frequent and too much, so I have decided that it should be a treat, not the norm.

Hopefully that will help.

My second problem isn't that I eat a lot of crap (though In fairness I do eat my fair share). My evening meals usually have fresh meat and veg in etc, though usually comes with a big serving of carbs (though I am still partial to sweets, a take away etc).

My real problem is quantity - whilst the quality of food isn't awful as said, the quantities are far, far too big (especially rice/bread/pasta.

I reckon that is going to be the difficult bit. Accepting that it won't kill me to be a bit hungry until my body gets used to smaller portions.

I used to cycle a lot and about 12 months ago weighed 12 - 12.5 stone (I had dropped a bit to get there), which whilst a shade overweight on BMI - I was pretty trim and in decent shape - I happily completed the Ride London in a sniff over 5 hours. Not proper athlete speed, but not shabby either. Laboured to 20 miles a couple of days ago!

I have recently stopped walking to the station (20 mins each way) every day, due to a new job. Amazing how it adds up.

I am getting back in to the cycling commute, and just need to get kitted up for the cold and get on with it. I have found that combining a good diet with exercise helps hugely. It just helps keep a bit of pace and momentum up.

I am hoping that contributing on here will help me to keep on track and help me develop a bit of will power and discipline. I have been sorely lacking in those of late!

I think my biggest problem is I want to hurry up, and see results quickly. I also need to learn patience.

If I can make my weight start with an 11 I will be a happy bunny. Ideally it will be by the start of the next hill climbing season in mid April 17.

Anyway - hello all. Consider me checked in.

Dr Interceptor

7,774 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Welcome smile

Booze really is the killer, and I know how hard it is to knock it on the head.

Best of luck with your efforts, and make sure you check back in biggrin

Jon

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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The hunger does pass, you get used to less food.

Booze needs to be occasional and moderate, you dont need it, its nice but keep it for best, dont waste it on a boring Tuesday night.

You can do pretty much anything in a year, could be 13 stone if you wanted to be, if someone had a gun at your head (impractical for a whole year but you get the point) or offered you a million quid, you could do it, look at what some of the guys in the training thread have done.

Temptation is to go at it like a bull at a gate, but needs to be permanent with the odd lapse to keep things enjoyable, I had a couple of pints, couple of glasses of wine on my birthday plus a nice Thai meal, didnt go mad, enjoyed, it straight back to rations the following day, still lost a pound.

I need to make sacrifices,

Smaller portions, avoid that over shoot of filling your plate, when you feel like you are soldiering through to finish, over ordering as you are hungry.

I have to leave the Log Burner and telly at night to go in my man shed and do some weights, walk the dog or go to the gym.

I have to ride my bike past a nice Mercedes with heated seats when its minus two.

But, next summer, I fully intend to not feel self conscious when I take my shirt off, after all, any pillock can lease a nice car, but looking good is either luck or bloody hard work and self denial, once on top of it it should get easier as wont be trying to save every calorie, can go back to a normal, but controlled diet and then watch my weight like a hawk and keep up the gym.


I got sick of comments about my waistline, so determined to make it count and will end up in better shape than those that feel the need to make points like that.

Winter is the time to do it and emerge looking a lot better in the Spring, rather than the usual "winter weight" and being able to hide it under winter clothes.

Really got my head into it now, my mate has lost loads as well, my missus has lost a stone and a half and looks so much better, she is happier and relishing buying nice clothes.

Life is easier and more pleasant when you are thin and fit, being fat is rubbish, uncomfortable and bad for you.







chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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J4CKO said:
The hunger does pass, you get used to less food.
This is true, the first few weeks will make or break your goal. When I started, I decided to 'write off' the next 12 months, and envisioned what I'd look like a year from now. If you think too short term, most will fall back to old habits. But, given enough time with a permanent change in diet and exercise, your body will change, and a complete change in wardrobe will be needed...


gregd

1,646 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Just came across this thread and have really enjoyed catching up... Some great work on here chaps. I've been in a healthkick since the beginning of September when I came back from holiday feeling tired and extremely lardy. I'm 45, 6 foot tall and have gone down from 16 stone in August to 14 stone 8 currently. I bought the first Joe Wicks book for a few ideas on what to eat/avoid but haven't followed his plan really. I've just cut right down on carbs and booze (although not altogether) and combined this with some cardio.. 30 minutes on a (cheapo 50 quid from Amazon) static bike at a good lick/resistance daily plus about 10 minutes a day of curls, pressups and situps.

I feel loads better and whilst I've lost a decent amount of weight it's the extent it's moved around that's noticeable I think.. Waist has gone from 36/38 to a 34 already. Cutting right back on booze was much easier than I thought.. I was mostly a big whisky drinker and have trained myself to stick to the good stuff and only very occasionally... quality over quantity! I've not managed to kick caffeine yet but I might give that a go as well at some point..

I travel a lot with work and I've found that the toughest part so far.. It's easy to be tempted into booze and local food and to break the daily fitness routines. I've ordered the Apple Nike watch on a health insurance offer which should encourage me to run a bit too (I find it hard on the shins/knees these days).

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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chris watton said:
J4CKO said:
The hunger does pass, you get used to less food.
This is true, the first few weeks will make or break your goal. When I started, I decided to 'write off' the next 12 months, and envisioned what I'd look like a year from now. If you think too short term, most will fall back to old habits. But, given enough time with a permanent change in diet and exercise, your body will change, and a complete change in wardrobe will be needed...
I spent £500 on new clothes (all nice stuff from John Lewis) when I was at my heaviest, nearly 18 stone so all 2 XL and now they dont fit properly, my wife made me throw out loads of stuff I had grown out of so now am a bit short on stuff I want to wear.

Going to treat myself to some nice Levis when I get down a bit further.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Cheers guys

Weird thing the human body.

I weighed in this morning at 14 7 - but have just weighed myself again at 14 st 1.

So presumably that is a bunch or retained water/truly majestic turd?

At least the mountain is a bit smaller.....

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Vocal Minority said:
Cheers guys

Weird thing the human body.

I weighed in this morning at 14 7 - but have just weighed myself again at 14 st 1.

So presumably that is a bunch or retained water/truly majestic turd?

At least the mountain is a bit smaller.....
Count your limbs ?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Another 1 lb has gone AWOL over night.

I wish I knew how bodies worked

Dr Interceptor

7,774 posts

196 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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You can't step on the scales everyday... You weight goes up and down like a yo yo.

Pick a day and time each week to step on the scales... For me it's a Saturday morning, once I've got up, had a pee and a dump, and before I jump in the shower. Then in theory you're comparing like for like - providing of course you didn't neck 15 pints Friday night.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Oh I know that much - I know I wont be 1 lb lighter and hurrah

I was thinking about - out of interest having scanned the metabolism thread - doing a daily graph to watch it wobble up and down and hopefully have an approximately downward trajectory.

I just wondered why all of these wild swings happen

Dr Interceptor

7,774 posts

196 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Vocal Minority said:
I just wondered why all of these wild swings happen
No idea... Some days I wake up 3lb heavier than the day before... Next day it has gone.

Whether some foods just process and clear out quicker, or some fluids retain... I don't know.


J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Dr Interceptor said:
You can't step on the scales everyday... You weight goes up and down like a yo yo.

Pick a day and time each week to step on the scales... For me it's a Saturday morning, once I've got up, had a pee and a dump, and before I jump in the shower. Then in theory you're comparing like for like - providing of course you didn't neck 15 pints Friday night.
I tend to, part of my routine, it keeps me on track, reminds me why I am doing it, if I go up I dont get despondent, I just ensure I keep on track and know it will come off as am definitely eating less than I am using and I am not special, I am not immune to thermodynamics, I know it will just be fluid, waste, glycogen or whatever and if I go down I take it as a boost but am careful not to get cocky.

If you eat a stable diet the fluctuations arent so high, have a Chinese and a few drinks, boom, for two days you go up by a few pounds.



I tend to use Tuesday as the target day as it is when I started and I set next weeks goal as todays weight minus 1 pound, if more comes off, so be it.

Cycling to work does help, 14 miles, takes me an hour or so, wonder how many calories that burns, the online estimators are anywhere between 400 and 1000, must be 500 or so for a 16 plus stone bloke, plus bike, and rucksack.


Dr Interceptor

7,774 posts

196 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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J4CKO said:
Cycling to work does help, 14 miles, takes me an hour or so, wonder how many calories that burns, the online estimators are anywhere between 400 and 1000, must be 500 or so for a 16 plus stone bloke, plus bike, and rucksack.
Always thought that in the gym... If the bike says you've burned 250 cals - is that 250 cals for Wiggins, or 250 cals for a fat bloke with his thighs recording a slap on the Richter scale with every revolution?

biggrin

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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J4cko

The measure on Strava - if the activity is relatively intense - says 100 kclas per 10 minutes - so 600 each way.

To be honest, from experience of doing this before and the speed the weight fell off at when I cycled regularly - doing 16-18 mph - I can believe that quite happily