drug overdose question.

drug overdose question.

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Hello, My mate says that 250 people die form heroin overdose in uk. I said it had to be more as we have a population of 60m.

Can anybody back me up, as he went off in a storm when i disagreed with it..

wiggy001

6,545 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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251 then...

Somewhatfoolish

4,385 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Er, in what time period? I'd guess that's about right for a year in this country if we're talking specifically overdoses.

Anyway not too many people die from heroin overdoses; accidental overdoses stem pretty much from either unused-to purity or from taking with other drugs (esp. Alcohol and downers)

ozzerr

348 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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wiggy001 said:
251 then...
I laughed.

Mexico.

1,254 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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jaymodunn said:
Hello, My mate says that 250 people die form heroin overdose in uk. I said it had to be more as we have a population of 60m.

Can anybody back me up, as he went off in a storm when i disagreed with it..
Is that per week month or year confused

billybuds

264 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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That sounds about right for a year

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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in 2004 the total deaths in England (not including Scotland) from all opiates was 944. In 2003 it was 766.

Google is your friend.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Ballpark figures

"Between 1999 and 2004, fatalities from ecstasy rose by 85 per cent, from 26 to 48 registrations. Deaths from cocaine increased by 108 per cent, from 26 in 1999 to 54 in 2004. Despite millions of pounds being poured into treatment programmes, heroin deaths fell by just 1 per cent over the five-year period and rose from 591 to 744 between 2003 and 2004. Deaths related to methadone, the heroin substitute prescribed to addicts, also rose from 175 to 200 between 2003 and 2004."

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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not enough....i reckon 100% of heroin addicts should perish.....apparently easier to give up than ciggies....bugger , I gave up B&H no probs....

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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MacGee said:
not enough....i reckon 100% of heroin addicts should perish.....apparently easier to give up than ciggies....bugger , I gave up B&H no probs....
It's a massive problem in my area. And methadone is no better.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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MacGee said:
...apparently easier to give up than ciggies...
Heroin is probably the worst drug ever to give up

ukwill

8,918 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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TheEnd said:
MacGee said:
...apparently easier to give up than ciggies...
Heroin is probably the worst drug ever to give up
No way. When I think of the amount of money I have spent on my petrol habit over the years... eek

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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TheEnd said:
MacGee said:
...apparently easier to give up than ciggies...
Heroin is probably the worst drug ever to give up
Nope. Ciggies are a much harder drug to give up.

The immediate effects of coming off H are harsh, but it is also a pretty short process. The body is not addicted to it. The mind is.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Colonial said:
The body is not addicted to it. The mind is.
Smack addicts develop both a physiological and psychological addition to their preferred tipple, over time.

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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several ex- heroin addicts have verified this fact....so I must have supreme will power.......dont intend to find out by the way....

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Its significantly harder to come off methadone than it is smack.

Some replacement 'therapy' that is...

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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MacGee said:
several ex- heroin addicts have verified this fact....so I must have supreme will power.......dont intend to find out by the way....
I know some of them. I went to school with them. The body goes into withdrawls but it is only a short term thing. It's not that hard of a drug to quit from all accounts.

The single biggest thing is getting out a lifestyle that promotes the use of it.

srebbe64

13,021 posts

238 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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jaymodunn said:
he went off in a storm when i disagreed with it..
How old is he, 13?

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Plotloss said:
Its significantly harder to come off methadone than it is smack.

Some replacement 'therapy' that is...
I've heard that as well. Once again, people I went to school with.

And I'll tell you what. Nothing makes you feel better about making the decision in your final year of school to concentrate on study, and take off the belt from around your upper arm, than seeing the effects of all that crap.

thepeoplespal

1,634 posts

278 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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MacGee said:
not enough....i reckon 100% of heroin addicts should perish.....apparently easier to give up than ciggies....bugger , I gave up B&H no probs....
i'd say over 60% have mental health issues. Although we only tend to see older addicts, as younger ones can not hack the discipline of making a drug agency and doctors apointment once a week as well as daily pickups.

I'd defy anyone to identfy 50% of addicts at my surgery, yes some are lowlife. but others are believe it or not genuinely nice people. Once motivated and having a direction they can get their life back ontrack and detox completely and sucessfully.

just my 2p
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