how fast can you row 2000 metres ?
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Sorry if this has already been covered, but the Fan position makes no difference it terns of "work done", so you can have it wherever you want for 2k piece. Typically Rowers will set the fan at around 6-7 as this best matches the feeling of the boat.
Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
For comparison, when I was still racing at Uni, I used to pull 2k in approx 6:15, which damn near used to kill me. I was about 20/25 seconds off the GB lads who were about 2 stone heavier, and 20/25 seconds at that pace is an incredible amount to "find".
For those wanting to improve their time, you can shave tens of seconds of your time simply through good technique. The best way to think of it as a novice, is to imagine that you're trying to lift a heavy box, so your back is straight and your "lift" comes from your legs, and not your arms and back. The big guy you see at the gym, shoving their arse along first then yanking on the handle with their arms will never get a good time. It all comes from your legs!
Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
For comparison, when I was still racing at Uni, I used to pull 2k in approx 6:15, which damn near used to kill me. I was about 20/25 seconds off the GB lads who were about 2 stone heavier, and 20/25 seconds at that pace is an incredible amount to "find".
For those wanting to improve their time, you can shave tens of seconds of your time simply through good technique. The best way to think of it as a novice, is to imagine that you're trying to lift a heavy box, so your back is straight and your "lift" comes from your legs, and not your arms and back. The big guy you see at the gym, shoving their arse along first then yanking on the handle with their arms will never get a good time. It all comes from your legs!
I also find a benefit early on in the 2k to try and row as slooowly as possible ie to keep the strokes/minute figure as low as possible with stronger pulls, which I find helps me to focus on technique as well as not getting out of breath too quickly. As I get nearer the end the strokes get progressively faster.
In terms of what 'Rowers' set the damping to (the fan setting), normally it's about 4ish, see this link for the explaination, not 6-7 and certainly not 10, but it depends what you want to achieve
http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/answers.php?id=...
However because each machine is different you should focus on the same Drag Factor rather than trying on the same fan setting.
Press Ready and Rest at the same time and the drag factor reading will be displayed. Row for a bit and you'll start getting results displayeed. Adjust the fan until that reading is about 130 - if you want it realistic to water rowing.
My 2k PB is 6:50.4
http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/answers.php?id=...
However because each machine is different you should focus on the same Drag Factor rather than trying on the same fan setting.
Press Ready and Rest at the same time and the drag factor reading will be displayed. Row for a bit and you'll start getting results displayeed. Adjust the fan until that reading is about 130 - if you want it realistic to water rowing.
My 2k PB is 6:50.4
rhinochopig said:
Sorry if this has already been covered, but the Fan position makes no difference it terns of "work done", so you can have it wherever you want for 2k piece. Typically Rowers will set the fan at around 6-7 as this best matches the feeling of the boat.
Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
About time someone pointed this out. So much BS about resistance level. All the idiots at the gym set it at 10 and look all smug, but they don't understand what it means.Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
Vlad. said:
rhinochopig said:
Sorry if this has already been covered, but the Fan position makes no difference it terns of "work done", so you can have it wherever you want for 2k piece. Typically Rowers will set the fan at around 6-7 as this best matches the feeling of the boat.
Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
About time someone pointed this out. So much BS about resistance level. All the idiots at the gym set it at 10 and look all smug, but they don't understand what it means.Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
I personally prefer 10 for 2k rows because I am used to quite heavy seated rowing and leg presses. May have something to do with not even getting a sub 7:20, but from memeory level 8 resulted in around mid 7's too.
One thing I did to improve (other than trying to keep stroke rate at 20 and keeping a sub 2:00/500m) was to adjust the foot holder so that my heal dug in instead of my toes. Basically I lifted it a couple of notches.
JRM said:
In terms of what 'Rowers' set the damping to (the fan setting), normally it's about 4ish, see this link for the explaination, not 6-7 and certainly not 10, but it depends what you want to achieve
http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/answers.php?id=...
However because each machine is different you should focus on the same Drag Factor rather than trying on the same fan setting.
Press Ready and Rest at the same time and the drag factor reading will be displayed. Row for a bit and you'll start getting results displayeed. Adjust the fan until that reading is about 130 - if you want it realistic to water rowing.
My 2k PB is 6:50.4
It's interesting that you and C2 suggest 3-4. Every club I've ever rowed at 3x Uni clubs and 2x city clubs have favoured 6. It does make me wonder whether the difference is down to C2 publishing figures for Olympic (i.e. 2k) times rather than club level (more Head races than regattas). Certainly most of my training was long steady state pieces of 30mins to an hour at 6. The only time I ever did 2k pieces was coming up to regatta season and even then typically seat racing for a position in the boat. http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/answers.php?id=...
However because each machine is different you should focus on the same Drag Factor rather than trying on the same fan setting.
Press Ready and Rest at the same time and the drag factor reading will be displayed. Row for a bit and you'll start getting results displayeed. Adjust the fan until that reading is about 130 - if you want it realistic to water rowing.
My 2k PB is 6:50.4
Vlad. said:
About time someone pointed this out. So much BS about resistance level. All the idiots at the gym set it at 10 and look all smug, but they don't understand what it means.
I pointed this out ages ago in the thread...I think it's key that you don't *vary* the resistance level during your row. In other words, don't get exhausted doing the 1st 1000m at level 10 and then moving it down to 4 for the final 1000m. At least that's what I recall reading on the Concept2 website some time ago. Although if it doesn't make any difference, why bother saying that?
I did 7.30 yesterday but haven't got anywhere near my PB of just under 7 mins. Under 6 mins is crazy. And also a bit depressing!
Vlad. said:
rhinochopig said:
Sorry if this has already been covered, but the Fan position makes no difference it terns of "work done", so you can have it wherever you want for 2k piece. Typically Rowers will set the fan at around 6-7 as this best matches the feeling of the boat.
Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
About time someone pointed this out. So much BS about resistance level. All the idiots at the gym set it at 10 and look all smug, but they don't understand what it means.Having the fan set at 10 means that it feels harder to pull the handle, BUT, you don't need to pull as often to create the same 500m split times. Setting the fan at 1 will make it much easier to pull, but you'll have to stroke much higher to match the same 500m splits.
For what it's worth, i've row on 10 100% of the time but only smug between 60-72% of the time, so there goes your theory
OK so hit the rower again yesterday, first time since holiday which was 4 weeks ago when i did 7.24... aiming for sub 7 i went flying out the gates, and soon realised i was noyt going to make it
7.14 i got.. which is better so hopefully can work on that, but that f
ked me completely, had to go home afterwards.. no other gym work at all !! hahaha
fwiw i am 14stone and 5'11.. cycle 150ish miles a week and do weights 4/5 times a week
7.14 i got.. which is better so hopefully can work on that, but that f
ked me completely, had to go home afterwards.. no other gym work at all !! hahahafwiw i am 14stone and 5'11.. cycle 150ish miles a week and do weights 4/5 times a week
Extremely unfit about 6 weeks ago my time was 11:42, now hitting around 9:27 - but after a 30 minute cycle - and it seems to be plateauing.
What's the best way to increase my time, just carry on training with the rower aiming for a lower speed every week, or adding a few weights sessions to try and build the muscles up?
What's the best way to increase my time, just carry on training with the rower aiming for a lower speed every week, or adding a few weights sessions to try and build the muscles up?
Driller said:
tricky69 said:
but that fked me completely, had to go home afterwards.. no other gym work at all !! hahaha
ked me completely, had to go home afterwards.. no other gym work at all !! hahaha
thehawk said:
Extremely unfit about 6 weeks ago my time was 11:42, now hitting around 9:27 - but after a 30 minute cycle - and it seems to be plateauing.
What's the best way to increase my time, just carry on training with the rower aiming for a lower speed every week, or adding a few weights sessions to try and build the muscles up?
Assuming that you mean that you want to decrease your time What's the best way to increase my time, just carry on training with the rower aiming for a lower speed every week, or adding a few weights sessions to try and build the muscles up?
I would suggest aiming for the same 9 1/2 minutes but with a much lower stroke rate.You will naturally use your legs, arms and back more economically, and have a lot more power when you need it.
rhinochopig said:
JRM said:
In terms of what 'Rowers' set the damping to (the fan setting), normally it's about 4ish, see this link for the explaination, not 6-7 and certainly not 10, but it depends what you want to achieve
http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/answers.php?id=...
However because each machine is different you should focus on the same Drag Factor rather than trying on the same fan setting.
Press Ready and Rest at the same time and the drag factor reading will be displayed. Row for a bit and you'll start getting results displayeed. Adjust the fan until that reading is about 130 - if you want it realistic to water rowing.
My 2k PB is 6:50.4
It's interesting that you and C2 suggest 3-4. Every club I've ever rowed at 3x Uni clubs and 2x city clubs have favoured 6. It does make me wonder whether the difference is down to C2 publishing figures for Olympic (i.e. 2k) times rather than club level (more Head races than regattas). Certainly most of my training was long steady state pieces of 30mins to an hour at 6. The only time I ever did 2k pieces was coming up to regatta season and even then typically seat racing for a position in the boat. http://www.concept2.co.uk/training/answers.php?id=...
However because each machine is different you should focus on the same Drag Factor rather than trying on the same fan setting.
Press Ready and Rest at the same time and the drag factor reading will be displayed. Row for a bit and you'll start getting results displayeed. Adjust the fan until that reading is about 130 - if you want it realistic to water rowing.
My 2k PB is 6:50.4
Tricky, you have an obligation to read your own thread lol.
Apparently you will do similar times using different levels. Choose a level that's suits your physical abilities. In my case I choose a level that I hope won't strain my back or knees any further! Again I'll suggest if you are likely to use different rowers use Drag Factor (under More Options on a C2) to set the "level". That way you will get in the "same" boat every time.
Apparently you will do similar times using different levels. Choose a level that's suits your physical abilities. In my case I choose a level that I hope won't strain my back or knees any further! Again I'll suggest if you are likely to use different rowers use Drag Factor (under More Options on a C2) to set the "level". That way you will get in the "same" boat every time.
Edited by Digger on Tuesday 14th July 09:23
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