how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

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Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Yeah I was a bit surprised at the stretch I got in the arse, which slowed me down a bit. It came as a bit of a shock.biggrin

Flook

230 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Did a looong steady state this morning - wanted to do a 1000 calorie workout - it took 1 hour, 7 mins & 14 secs - averaged 2.06.6 / 500m - the auld blisters have come up a treat!

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Am I allowed to post old times from when I was seriously training, or do they have to be as now? Some great times by everyone, keep up the good work.

(I look forward to having the space to have my own machine in a garage or spare room, and get back into it properly. They're one of the best all round work outs...

MacGee

2,513 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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I think its only fair to have fairly recent times. In last couple of years. But I'm not the judge/ref so anyone else can have a say. You could enter it and put date next to it. that sounds OK to me!
This is a good motivation to gee us along. So dont want to put anyone off!
Us rowers need to be a happy bunch!

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Thinking about it, the times would be from 6 or 7 years ago. Whilst they would be directly comparable, it hardly seems fair. I'll come back when I win the lottery and go back to skulling as my daily pass time...

MacGee

2,513 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Please enter your times. It'll give us targets and something for you to work for. It's always easier if it's written down!

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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2000m Top Ten:
1) Fergie87 - 6:25.2 (76kg) (24 years)
2) MacGee - 6:47.6 (6'3") (103kg) (50years)
3) samwilliams - 6:53
4) Flook - 7:15.7 (5'10") (70kg) (43 years)
5) Driller - 7.23 (6'3") (82kg)
6) clonmult - 7:26 (6') (100kg)
8) dtmpower - 7:34.1 (6'1") (100kg) (31 years)
7) AJLintern - 7:38 (6') (67Kg)
9) Halb - 8.40 (6'3) (120+kg at the time)
10)

Not on the pools: louiebaby - 6:11.4 (6'8") (96kg) (24 years) (7 years ago)

5000m Top Ten:
1) Derek Chevalier - 17:29.9 (@R26) (6'3") (97kg) (37 years)
2) MacGee - 18:22.9
3) samwilliams - 18:59
4) clonmult - 19:48
5) Driller - 19.55
6) louiebaby - 20:00 (@R17) (6'8") (108kg) (31 years)
7) dtmpower - 20:41 (6'1") (100kg) (31 years)
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9)
10)

Not on the pools: louiebaby - 16:05 (6'8") (96kg) (24 years) (7 years ago)

500m Top Ten:
1) Derek Chevalier - 1:17.5
2) Fergie87 - 1:27.2
3) MacGee - 1:28.6 (silver at English indoor 2012 in HWT 50+)
4) Halb - 1:29.2
5) dtmpower - 1:34.1
6) Driller - 1:35.8
7) clonmult - 1:36
8) AJLintern - 1:42
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10)

Flook

230 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Tactical question...

Do people try to go for even splits through the 2000m? - Or even negative splits (ie getting slightly faster as you go through the distance)?

I ask because that seems to be the best advice for to get the fastest times for eg middle distance running...but for something like 2000m, does 'holding back' this much at the beginning give you too much to do towards the end when your leg muscles are all pumped full of blood and might be tailing off anyway...

What do you guys do?

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Flook said:
Tactical question...

Do people try to go for even splits through the 2000m? - Or even negative splits (ie getting slightly faster as you go through the distance)?

I ask because that seems to be the best advice for to get the fastest times for eg middle distance running...but for something like 2000m, does 'holding back' this much at the beginning give you too much to do towards the end when your leg muscles are all pumped full of blood and might be tailing off anyway...

What do you guys do?
In the past, I seem to remember working it based on for instance:

Target = 7 minutes dead.
Average split = 1:45.
1st Split: 1:43 (Fresh legs)
2nd Split: 1:46 (Settle / Rhythm)
3rd Split: 1:46.5 (Settle / Rhythm)
4th Split: 1:44.5 (Just fking do it!)

This means with 500 to go, you should be a fraction behind the target average split for the race so far. I found that choosing two songs to listen to during the torture really helped.

Song 1: Living on a prayer - Bon Jovi
Song 2: Crazy in love - Beyonce

I found the "Wooaah, we're halfway there" chorus useful on the first song, and the rhythm and constant "building" of the second song useful.

Not everyone shared my love of my choices. smile

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Derek Chevalier said:
Fergie87 said:
and have been stuck in a plateu for a while.
Time for beetroot!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01gyfts/Bang...
I tried it a year or so ago, I was intrigued by the reports...sadly it makes me want to vomit.

This type of product is meant to do the same, but can science match nature?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/nitrix.html

clonmult

10,529 posts

208 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Flook said:
Tactical question...

Do people try to go for even splits through the 2000m? - Or even negative splits (ie getting slightly faster as you go through the distance)?

I ask because that seems to be the best advice for to get the fastest times for eg middle distance running...but for something like 2000m, does 'holding back' this much at the beginning give you too much to do towards the end when your leg muscles are all pumped full of blood and might be tailing off anyway...

What do you guys do?
Gym managers advice was more intervals - blast it, rest period, blast it, etc.

Doesn't tend to work for me at the moment, I try to keep a fairly even pace and keep my form, until the last 500 meters which tends to be a relative sprint finish (think I've been finishing the last 100-200 meters at 1:34 pace on my last couple of rows). Which is a total farkin' biatch.

I'd suggest trying a few techniques, see which works best for you.

clonmult

10,529 posts

208 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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2000m Top Ten:
1) Fergie87 - 6:25.2 (76kg) (24 years)
2) MacGee - 6:47.6 (6'3") (103kg) (50years)
3) samwilliams - 6:53
4) Flook - 7:15.7 (5'10") (70kg) (43 years)
5) Driller - 7.23 (6'3") (82kg)
6) clonmult - 7:25 (6') (100kg)
8) dtmpower - 7:34.1 (6'1") (100kg) (31 years)
7) AJLintern - 7:38 (6') (67Kg)
9) Halb - 8.40 (6'3) (120+kg at the time)
10)

Not on the pools: louiebaby - 6:11.4 (6'8") (96kg) (24 years) (7 years ago)

5000m Top Ten:
1) Derek Chevalier - 17:29.9 (@R26) (6'3") (97kg) (37 years)
2) MacGee - 18:22.9
3) samwilliams - 18:59
4) clonmult - 19:48
5) Driller - 19.55
6) louiebaby - 20:00 (@R17) (6'8") (108kg) (31 years)
7) dtmpower - 20:41 (6'1") (100kg) (31 years)
8)
9)
10)

Not on the pools: louiebaby - 16:05 (6'8") (96kg) (24 years) (7 years ago)

500m Top Ten:
1) Derek Chevalier - 1:17.5
2) Fergie87 - 1:27.2
3) MacGee - 1:28.6 (silver at English indoor 2012 in HWT 50+)
4) Halb - 1:29.2
5) dtmpower - 1:34.1
6) Driller - 1:35.8
7) clonmult - 1:36
8) AJLintern - 1:42
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10)

Just lopped one second off my 2k time, and this time the pace actually felt relatively sedate. Definitely had a little more pace in me, but it was my warm up prior to what turned into a killer boxercise class. So didn't push it.

Tomorrow is a rest day, think I shall have to be back for more 2k "fun" on friday.

  • eta* bks, I'd forgotten that Driller was so close, I should have put in a teeny little extra. Damn, double damn and drat.

Driller

8,310 posts

277 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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biggrinhehethumbup

Flook

230 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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louiebaby said:
Song 1: Living on a prayer - Bon Jovi
Song 2: Crazy in love - Beyonce

I found the "Wooaah, we're halfway there" chorus useful on the first song, and the rhythm and constant "building" of the second song useful.

Not everyone shared my love of my choices. smile
Brilliant - now I have "you gotta hold on, ready or not, you live for the fight when that's all that you've got" going round my head - thanks! laugh

Flook

230 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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MacGee said:
Great links - many thanks thumbup

Think it looks like more or less flat, with a slight variation around target average (-1, +1, +1, -?) is a good one to try.

MacGee

2,513 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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nice going...Driller breathes for another day!! prob not got over the excitement of a new president!
Louiebaby...bloodyhell! those old times are superb. you def got talent. you should get back into it and you are in with some British or English medals!
my best 2k saw me sprinting for first section, then settling down and pushing near the end..I think this is the French method!

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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MacGee said:
Louiebaby...bloodyhell! those old times are superb. you def gothad some talent. You should get back into it and you are in with some British or English medals!
The qualification times for GB trials at the time was 6:10 and 16:25 respectively. I went to a few but I was never quite there. I didn't like the racing enough to make it. (Oddly I loved the training but not the racing.)

Some of the times the other people on this thread are churning out are very good, and better than I could do now. I was working part time and training 4 hours a day, 6 days a week to get to were I did, and that wasn't enough to go International.

I'd love to have the time to get a single scull moving properly again, and a nice location to do it.

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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So I am gonna have a crack at 2000m tomorrow. Keep a steady 1.55 (if I am able) to get a good sub 8 time?

MacGee

2,513 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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60 mins at 1:59 pace for me...sweaty hands. Last year found this pace easy but much harder now...age!