how fast can you row 2000 metres ?
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Sherpa said:
To the full second:
1:47
1:51
1:52
1:51
Think I started off too fast and couldn't push for the last couple of hundred metres.
Not bad going though - I was recently informed (by a pro rower) that the ideal pacing was fast first 500, then maintain a slightly slower pace for the next 1k, then flat out for the final 500m.1:47
1:51
1:52
1:51
Think I started off too fast and couldn't push for the last couple of hundred metres.
Which I did today, and almost nailed it.
Bear in mind that yesterday I did a PB on the 500m (did a 1m32.4, then came back and did a 1m31.8). Today put in a 7:01.6, with the splits at :
1:45.7
1:46.4
1:46.9
1:42.7
Too close to sub 7, not really that frustrating as I've only just got back into semi-serious training. And I've got a few months until next years BRIC and EIRC
MacGee - will you be entering either of them?
I have put on nearly 2 stones this year due to gastric surgery and other great excuses. Havent erged in anger for a year.. Its very unlikely I will enter..may attend though. My category, the over 50's HWT now has a few huge beasts who I could never beat.
As far as k pacing goes. Top guys will get to race pace in 5 strokes then stay steady all the way. The french technique is to push hard first 500, then settle for 1k with a push for last 500. Thats sort of my method. It seemed to work best for my 3 sub7s. But physiology states steady is best...apparently.
As far as k pacing goes. Top guys will get to race pace in 5 strokes then stay steady all the way. The french technique is to push hard first 500, then settle for 1k with a push for last 500. Thats sort of my method. It seemed to work best for my 3 sub7s. But physiology states steady is best...apparently.
MacGee said:
I have put on nearly 2 stones this year due to gastric surgery and other great excuses. Havent erged in anger for a year.. Its very unlikely I will enter..may attend though. My category, the over 50's HWT now has a few huge beasts who I could never beat.
As far as k pacing goes. Top guys will get to race pace in 5 strokes then stay steady all the way. The french technique is to push hard first 500, then settle for 1k with a push for last 500. Thats sort of my method. It seemed to work best for my 3 sub7s. But physiology states steady is best...apparently.
I've seen a few (pro) rowers suggest that fast first, then cruise for 1k, then hard on the last 500. Which is what I tried; worked for me. Steady state is boring ...As far as k pacing goes. Top guys will get to race pace in 5 strokes then stay steady all the way. The french technique is to push hard first 500, then settle for 1k with a push for last 500. Thats sort of my method. It seemed to work best for my 3 sub7s. But physiology states steady is best...apparently.
One of the fastest guys in the 30-39 is now in 40-49 HWT (Paul Buchanan - don't know why he isn't sub 6 with his training), so I'm going to be even further behind the leaders. But will still be at the events, even if it is to just be a name at the bottom of the tables (someone has to finish last!).
Doing a lot of leg sessions these last few weeks, and using the leg press in an intervals/r20 style is absolutely brilliant - hurts more than an erg doing a fast r20.
Reckon I'm going to be sub 7 by the end of the year.
MacGee said:
I have put on nearly 2 stones this year due to gastric surgery and other great excuses. Havent erged in anger for a year.. Its very unlikely I will enter..may attend though. My category, the over 50's HWT now has a few huge beasts who I could never beat.
As far as k pacing goes. Top guys will get to race pace in 5 strokes then stay steady all the way. The french technique is to push hard first 500, then settle for 1k with a push for last 500. Thats sort of my method. It seemed to work best for my 3 sub7s. But physiology states steady is best...apparently.
Hope your well now mate. I too have piled on the weight though mine is through lack of discipline and lack of exercise.As far as k pacing goes. Top guys will get to race pace in 5 strokes then stay steady all the way. The french technique is to push hard first 500, then settle for 1k with a push for last 500. Thats sort of my method. It seemed to work best for my 3 sub7s. But physiology states steady is best...apparently.
I~ agree with your pace setting my first and last 500 where my fastest and it hurt like hell.
After an easy 1 hour gym bike. I jumped on the gym's concept to see how it compares to home.
Drag factor on 10 shows 152
Did a PB on 100m , 15.9s
Given that I'd already done an hour bike and I still felt fresh I waited 10 minutes to try a 500m
I set a pace boat of 1:30/500m. I was ahead of him until 200m to go, when bam, I hit the wall, was losing my advantage - so had to pull up an concede the victory to the robot rower.
Will try again tomorrow. I know I can crack 1:30. The bike and the 100m just took my sharpness away tonight.
Drag factor on 10 shows 152
Did a PB on 100m , 15.9s
Given that I'd already done an hour bike and I still felt fresh I waited 10 minutes to try a 500m
I set a pace boat of 1:30/500m. I was ahead of him until 200m to go, when bam, I hit the wall, was losing my advantage - so had to pull up an concede the victory to the robot rower.
Will try again tomorrow. I know I can crack 1:30. The bike and the 100m just took my sharpness away tonight.
dtmpower said:
After an easy 1 hour gym bike. I jumped on the gym's concept to see how it compares to home.
Drag factor on 10 shows 152
Did a PB on 100m , 15.9s
Given that I'd already done an hour bike and I still felt fresh I waited 10 minutes to try a 500m
I set a pace boat of 1:30/500m. I was ahead of him until 200m to go, when bam, I hit the wall, was losing my advantage - so had to pull up an concede the victory to the robot rower.
Will try again tomorrow. I know I can crack 1:30. The bike and the 100m just took my sharpness away tonight.
Good luck with the 500; my recent PB was set under intriguing circumstances. I'd given it one go, did a 1m32.3. Then had a rest, and after some "encouragement" from colleagues got back on and did a 1m31.8. Then did the 2k PB the following day ... I really need to start getting in some proper rest days.Drag factor on 10 shows 152
Did a PB on 100m , 15.9s
Given that I'd already done an hour bike and I still felt fresh I waited 10 minutes to try a 500m
I set a pace boat of 1:30/500m. I was ahead of him until 200m to go, when bam, I hit the wall, was losing my advantage - so had to pull up an concede the victory to the robot rower.
Will try again tomorrow. I know I can crack 1:30. The bike and the 100m just took my sharpness away tonight.
But no matter what I try, I cannot get the 100m under 16.9. I can consistently get it at 17 or 17.1 - did a 10x100m session last week and averaged 17.2 secs. Guess I've just got to work on leg strengths - get back into squats, deadlifts, leg extensions, do the seated squat machine like its erg intervals (ie. do 20 reps, minutes rest, then 20 reps, minutes rest, etc.)
wanted to try this - currently row for about 20 min, averaging around 1min 53sec/500m on setting '8'.
i have a numpty question though - after reading a few posts on here. i also just assumed that the higher the setting, the greater the drag (so harder to maintain pace). but one reply said that if the machine was very dusty, then a setting 10 could be the same as a 1? i can't get my head around that - any help please.
also, for the 2000m challenge, do most people use a higher or lower setting that '8'?
many thanks
i have a numpty question though - after reading a few posts on here. i also just assumed that the higher the setting, the greater the drag (so harder to maintain pace). but one reply said that if the machine was very dusty, then a setting 10 could be the same as a 1? i can't get my head around that - any help please.
also, for the 2000m challenge, do most people use a higher or lower setting that '8'?
many thanks
SpydieNut said:
wanted to try this - currently row for about 20 min, averaging around 1min 53sec/500m on setting '8'.
Good Effort ^^^^ Do a 5000m and record your time. SpydieNut said:
then a setting 10 could be the same as a 1? i can't get my head around that - any help please.
Unlikely 1 (dusty) will ever be 10(clean) But my setup at home the drag factor is about 144 (10) and at the gym (dusty and older machine) is 152. You can calibrate/check the drag factory in the options menu on the PM3 and PM4 monitors. SO to row the gym machine like home I would have to use between 9-10 for example. SpydieNut said:
also, for the 2000m challenge, do most people use a higher or lower setting that '8'?
If you have the stamina then a high drag factor enables (me) to produce more power but I soon lose form/rhythm as I get tired. There is no hard and fast rule. MacGee put a good explanation on a previous post. dtmpower said:
clonmult said:
But no matter what I try, I cannot get the 100m under 16.9.
Are you doing full strokes ? My 16.0s and 15.9s were both 1 full pull to start and then arms only. Had a bit of a long session tonight (5k warm up, 3x3 at high intensity, 10 minute cool down) and then realised that I only needed another 300m to make it a 10k session ...
So tried 100m intervals.
First one was 16.5 secs - full first strokes, then partial for the remainder. Subsequent efforts were slower - 16.8 and 17.1 - legs were shot at that point!
dtmpower said:
1:32.2 500m . brilliant start just last 100m let me down.
Fresh legs, try again in a week or two?Anyone seen the 500m from Ross Love?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UirnVIOY3bM
1m15.1 - and this was apparently him "out of shape". He's expecting to be back (!!!!) down to 1m12.8 - he'll be close to world record pace!
OK, so my first proper session, where i watched distance instead of just seeing minutes tick away
i was doing it on level 8 (drag factor 171) and was going for a 5km time, but after about 1.2km, decided to push it a bit and set my first 2km time on the way
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so 2km - 7min 18sec - i know that's not that good on here, but will give me a place to start from
3km was 11min
4km 14min 44sec
5km 18 min 18 sec - chased the last 300m and finished feeling pretty finished
heaven only knows how you guys do the longer distances, like 10km and 15km, let alone marathon distance
lots more practice is needed
i was doing it on level 8 (drag factor 171) and was going for a 5km time, but after about 1.2km, decided to push it a bit and set my first 2km time on the way
.so 2km - 7min 18sec - i know that's not that good on here, but will give me a place to start from
3km was 11min
4km 14min 44sec
5km 18 min 18 sec - chased the last 300m and finished feeling pretty finished
heaven only knows how you guys do the longer distances, like 10km and 15km, let alone marathon distance
lots more practice is needed
You're not supposed to do 2km and set a time and then be able to continue on to 5km !!!
If I do a test. I set the distance before starting to countdown.
On the 2km, after 1900m I am dead and have to force myself to the end. If you are doing ~7:20 and have 3km in reserve. Imagine what time you'd do if you were spent after 2km.
If I do a test. I set the distance before starting to countdown.
On the 2km, after 1900m I am dead and have to force myself to the end. If you are doing ~7:20 and have 3km in reserve. Imagine what time you'd do if you were spent after 2km.
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