how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

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dirty doug

483 posts

195 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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1MC

Good going Richie - it does get easier in my humble opinion with time & metres.
The lower stroke rate is a winner as well, but dare I suggest lower still. Try 25 & see how that goes.

Did an hour session today to finish the week. 13177 metres & went through 10k quicker than I did 10k Wednesday.
Must try harder - the PB could be in reach....

4 days off now for rest as I know I've gone a bit OTT.

39177 metres total - I'm having the 177 I may need it later! wink

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

173 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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CDC said:
Fezzaman said:
1MC

CDC - retired after winning the Grand at HRR eh? You could always make a glorious comeback this year as the standard will be much lower as it's Olympic year
Yes i thought i would hold out until winning the Grand....i wish. Winning a club event is a big enough mountain to climb. And i still never did it. You have to know when to sack it in though, or you actually become adicted and realise you're 40, training in a squad of 20yr olds and you're at the bottom end of the group.
Very similar to you. Made it to quarters of Thames in 2012 (although difficulty in this group unaffected by Olympic year!) with a fair amount of luck - realised as I approached 40 that was as good as it was going to get and now don't compete with the young guns. Probably for the best....

http://www.endurancecorner.com/Larry_Creswell/hear...


Fezzaman

552 posts

193 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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1MC

1 Week down, 21381m done. Just another 51 weeks and too much mileage to go.

So we have Doug, DTM, Rich and myself doing this?

Rich - seriously get some advice on technique, I guarantee if you've never rowed before you will do your back in doing this challenge. Go to your nearest club get some pointers - I'm sure they'll be looking to recruit some NYRers to try rowing. Also go into the memory after each session and note down your time, distance, split, rate, power.

Derek/CDC - I know what you mean, I just realised it sooner straight out of school when I accepted I'm too short (and too light to even make ergs bearable) to ever amount to much. But on the other hand I'm pretty sure rowing gives you a better balance of strength/fitness than most other sports. Dareisay when the sun is out and the water calm one could even enjoy rowing for rowing's sake without the competition.

....Still want to qualify for any event just once at HRR though.

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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Nothing to do with distances or times but a new local gym had a free open weekend so I popped in yesterday.

They have 4 new Life Fitness GX water rowers which I have to say were really, really good.

Smoother and quieter than a Concept 2. I've not used a Waterrower but the Life Fitness one is adjustable (16 settings) without having to alter the amount of water in the tank which is a bonus. It's very comfortable to use.

They also also proper commercial models and very well built. I did have a google to see if I might get one to use at home but they are £1,500.

http://www.powerhouse-fitness.co.uk/life-fitness-g...

MacGee

2,513 posts

230 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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55,773 metres on skierg for me so far.

Edited by MacGee on Monday 11th January 14:28

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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Davey S2 said:
Nothing to do with distances or times but a new local gym had a free open weekend so I popped in yesterday.

They have 4 new Life Fitness GX water rowers which I have to say were really, really good.

Smoother and quieter than a Concept 2. I've not used a Waterrower but the Life Fitness one is adjustable (16 settings) without having to alter the amount of water in the tank which is a bonus. It's very comfortable to use.

They also also proper commercial models and very well built. I did have a google to see if I might get one to use at home but they are £1,500.

http://www.powerhouse-fitness.co.uk/life-fitness-g...
There are several reasons why the C2 is the standard device used by the majority of professional rowers. Calibration and build. They are truly built to take a serious beating. One of the girls in my old on line club had one that had been used by the military and taken on tours of iraq. After a clean it ran perfect. I would steer clear of a gym that has anything but a C2 ....

Fezzaman

552 posts

193 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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1MC

Notched up the first 60" r20 of the year. Just over 34.6k to date, 966k to go. Not going to lie, although I'm pretty confident I'm no erg newbie, I have a sneaking suspicion my back just didn't have the strength/endurance to follow through cleanly in the last 20mins or so. May try breaking it up into 3 x 20" or do some more shorter pieces through the week. Guess that's what happens when you stop training every/twice a day and get a lazy desk job and lose all core strength/posture! Never mind the fitness...

dirty doug

483 posts

195 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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1MC

Quick update. 2 x 10k so far this week. 59177m total

2nd 10k was only 8 seconds slower than my PB... smile

Rich1973

1,198 posts

177 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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26k this week to bring me to 48k so far for the month.
I have been leaning back further to increase my stroke length and trying to use my legs more.
Certainly my technique is getting better as is my stamina slowly. I think I was using my arms too much to compensate for the fact my legs are not very long.
I have increased my total session distance to 9k which is taking me 42 minutes or so. Getting there slowly, but I really am carrying quite a bit of weight, so I think my figures will only really get better as my core strength builds and my weight comes down.

dirty doug

483 posts

195 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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1MC

60 minutes yesterday 13229 metres - 72406 total

Decent finish to the week. Ready for the weekend beers!

Richie it sounds like it's getting better for you.
This is a big challenge for all of us which isn't a sprint.
The stamina & strength will come & as I'm sure you know, you burn a fair few calories doing it.
I'm 45 & a very late arrival to this really & still improving technique, strength & cardio stamina.
If you have time this thread from page 1 is a great read & will give you plenty of help.

Happy rowing smile

MacGee

2,513 posts

230 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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77,167m for,me this year on skierg. Did 30 mins past night and hands so sweaty..like prunes. Gloves required.

Fezzaman

552 posts

193 months

Sunday 17th January 2016
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1MC

End of Week 2. 52618m done. 50 weeks and 947382m to go.

How does a skierg compare with a normal erg? Never tried skiing so no idea what motions it entails but the mileage is impressive regardless!

Doug what happened to a few days off?! You must know for certain that there are weeks at a time when you'll be away from the erg... Amusing that DTM who came up with the challenge before the new year has yet to post any mileage as of yet. The magnitude of this challenge dawned on me this week when talking to an old experienced rowing friend who thought I was crazy - largely due to the inevitable time constraints that will happen as a consequence of work rather than actual ability to clock up the mileage. While I have age in my favour compared to you guys, I more than lose out in being short and lighter.

MacGee

2,513 posts

230 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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81,621m on skierg. Its same as erg. When I was erging I'd do at least 40 mins every night...7500m. Now max is 30 mins..approx 6300. Once you get technique you can just keep going. I'm not blasting like I used to but still trying and HR is up to 150 for most. Not breathless though. My ave pace for 5k is about 2:13. Could push but wont. Become obsessive if I do. My 100m pb is 18.2 compared to 15.7 on erg.

Edited by MacGee on Monday 18th January 11:25


Edited by MacGee on Monday 18th January 11:28

dirty doug

483 posts

195 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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1MC

Did 10k today in a new PB 43' 43.5" well chuffed! Wiki updated.
Little bit left in the tank to be honest I think - I'm struggling to keep the pace between 4-6k as I'm trying to get a good pace for the final 2k.
I try to kick again at 1k to go, & then just go mad for the final 500m. I think other people in the gym may be staring a smidge at the mad bloke on the rower... wobble

82406 total

Fezza yes I've got a couple of weeks away in April/May in the sun so the all inclusive food/bar will slow me down on my return.
Summer for me is frantic at work as well so August & September are basically no gym time so thats why I'm trying to get some decent metres in now.

And yes I've mentioned Million Metre Row to a few people & most people just say why? Charity? Are you mad?
I say well this bloke on Pistonheads just suggested it & I thought it would be a challenge... biggrin


Edited by dirty doug on Monday 18th January 11:43

dirty doug

483 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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1MC

2 more 10k's on Thursday & Friday both breaking Monday's PB! 43' 17.5" is now my PB & it almost seems easy! Note almost though...

102406 metres total.

So 3 weeks in & 10% done. I'm on schedule to what I've set myself so pretty pleased.

The breathing & technique is solid & I'm staying at a much more even pace throughout before the pace rises from 2k to go onwards.

Hope everyone else is going well also & look forward to updates.

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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MacGee said:
81,621m on skierg. Its same as erg. When I was erging I'd do at least 40 mins every night...7500m. Now max is 30 mins..approx 6300. Once you get technique you can just keep going. I'm not blasting like I used to but still trying and HR is up to 150 for most. Not breathless though. My ave pace for 5k is about 2:13. Could push but wont. Become obsessive if I do. My 100m pb is 18.2 compared to 15.7 on erg.
My other half and her son are buying a ski erg. Its a scary prospect ....

And for the life of me I cannot (yet) get down to 15.7 over the 100m. Best is a 15.9 (it showed as 15.8, but rounded up), start/first 3 strokes let me down - 1:49, 1:33, 1:25, and then settle into around 1:18/1:19. Apparently on occasion I've pulled down to 1:14, but not reliably.

Part of the problem is possibly technique - for the 100m you need to really shorten your stroke. I'm using a slightly shortened "normal" rowing stroke, too much leg being used.

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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clonmult said:
Davey S2 said:
Nothing to do with distances or times but a new local gym had a free open weekend so I popped in yesterday.

They have 4 new Life Fitness GX water rowers which I have to say were really, really good.

Smoother and quieter than a Concept 2. I've not used a Waterrower but the Life Fitness one is adjustable (16 settings) without having to alter the amount of water in the tank which is a bonus. It's very comfortable to use.

They also also proper commercial models and very well built. I did have a google to see if I might get one to use at home but they are £1,500.

http://www.powerhouse-fitness.co.uk/life-fitness-g...
There are several reasons why the C2 is the standard device used by the majority of professional rowers. Calibration and build. They are truly built to take a serious beating. One of the girls in my old on line club had one that had been used by the military and taken on tours of iraq. After a clean it ran perfect. I would steer clear of a gym that has anything but a C2 ....
I'm a big fan of the C2 and use one regularly in my gym but they aren't the be all and end all. They just had a monopoly on the market for years. All Lifefitness equipment is top notch in my experience.

Rich1973

1,198 posts

177 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Only been to the gym twice this week as I have been away with work.
17K to take my total to 65 so far.

MacGee

2,513 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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First 3 strokes must be aggressive..very short first, longer 2nd etc. don't move your bum on slide to much. mostly arms. the skier seem to need full body weight pulling down on first few.
115000 done so far by the way.

clonmult said:
MacGee said:
81,621m on skierg. Its same as erg. When I was erging I'd do at least 40 mins every night...7500m. Now max is 30 mins..approx 6300. Once you get technique you can just keep going. I'm not blasting like I used to but still trying and HR is up to 150 for most. Not breathless though. My ave pace for 5k is about 2:13. Could push but wont. Become obsessive if I do. My 100m pb is 18.2 compared to 15.7 on erg.
My other half and her son are buying a ski erg. Its a scary prospect ....

And for the life of me I cannot (yet) get down to 15.7 over the 100m. Best is a 15.9 (it showed as 15.8, but rounded up), start/first 3 strokes let me down - 1:49, 1:33, 1:25, and then settle into around 1:18/1:19. Apparently on occasion I've pulled down to 1:14, but not reliably.

Part of the problem is possibly technique - for the 100m you need to really shorten your stroke. I'm using a slightly shortened "normal" rowing stroke, too much leg being used.

Fezzaman

552 posts

193 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Week 3 done. 33192m this week taking me to 85810 to date.

Any of you guys training with a heart rate monitor? Reckon it's worth it? I want to mix in a couple of weights sessions which means I may back off on pace on ergs to allow for recovery. Having said that this week I may be forced to take it light in mileage as I'm away from the erg. On the plus side got over 2k in the bank of the monthly target a week early... Let's hope illness and injury don't rear their head any time soon!