how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

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13m

26,346 posts

223 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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LambShank said:
Considering how many metres I've rowed, and how often (averaging 3k daily), I appear to be getting heavier which is the opposite of what I set out to do.

Need to start on the erg weight loss programme....
Whether you are becoming heavier is less relevant than whether you are becoming fatter.


dirty doug

483 posts

196 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Still struggling to get back to best fitness after holidays & have picked up/aggravated a couple of niggles in left knee & right shoulder.

But still managed some 5k's instead of 10k's & also tried 500m x4 intervals for a change. Hard...rotate

YTD distance now 623,676

LambShank

14,704 posts

190 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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13m said:
Whether you are becoming heavier is less relevant than whether you are becoming fatter.
Hmmm..... I have a magic mirror at home.

Did a good 8k in intervals last night, then attempted a few 100m - best was 17secs.
Must try harder.

C2 Summer Solstice challenge on Monday - 20k throughout the the day, or add 97m and do half marathon in one sitting?
Anyone going to do it?

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Another slight improvement on the 100m. Down to 15.4 - all down to the start, first strokes were 1:44, 1:30. Didn't get quite the same low pull as earlier attempts ("only" got down to 1:15, not 1:14), but the start made all the difference.

I really need to start getting back into more intervals and distance training, reckon I'm going to be seeing a fair improvement on my 500m - have to be way quicker than my old 1:29.5 pb!

And having just watched a video that a friend took of me doing a 7:01 on the 2k, I really do want to give that another go too. I've done a few 10x1s over the last few weeks, all averaging 1:42 and feeling surprisingly easy. I must be close to sub 7 smile

13m

26,346 posts

223 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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clonmult said:
And having just watched a video that a friend took of me doing a 7:01 on the 2k, I really do want to give that another go too. I've done a few 10x1s over the last few weeks, all averaging 1:42 and feeling surprisingly easy. I must be close to sub 7 smile
You're doing 10 x 1k? How long rest?

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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13m said:
clonmult said:
And having just watched a video that a friend took of me doing a 7:01 on the 2k, I really do want to give that another go too. I've done a few 10x1s over the last few weeks, all averaging 1:42 and feeling surprisingly easy. I must be close to sub 7 smile
You're doing 10 x 1k? How long rest?
10x1 minute, 1 minute rest, not 10x1k ... don't think I've ever done a 10x1k.

The last 10x1 was done as a warm up before the 100m PB on Saturday morning. Barely broke into a sweat, averaged 1:42.8.

13m

26,346 posts

223 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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clonmult said:
10x1 minute, 1 minute rest, not 10x1k ... don't think I've ever done a 10x1k.

The last 10x1 was done as a warm up before the 100m PB on Saturday morning. Barely broke into a sweat, averaged 1:42.8.
Have a go at 10 x 500 with 1 minute rest.

There is a theory that whatever you can average over the 10 x 500s is the pace you can maintain for 2k. So, if you can pull 1:45 you're on for a 7 minute 2k.



throt

3,058 posts

171 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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13m said:
Have a go at 10 x 500 with 1 minute rest.

There is a theory that whatever you can average over the 10 x 500s is the pace you can maintain for 2k. So, if you can pull 1:45 you're on for a 7 minute 2k.
!:45,,, where is the reading for this on the monitor, is this the drag.?.

Tia.

13m

26,346 posts

223 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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throt said:
!:45,,, where is the reading for this on the monitor, is this the drag.?.

Tia.
It's the split time. If you want to see drag factor, go into "more options" then "display drag factor".

LimaDelta

6,533 posts

219 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Sorry to jump in - haven't checked back through all 71 pages but does anyone keep their Concept 2 outside? Do they make a weatherproof cover for it?

LambShank

14,704 posts

190 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Had a mate round Saturday who knows a thing or two about rowing - he wrapped the mesh down the middle of the fly wheel in clingfilm, and put my setting to no.1.

Something of a Eureka moment for him with regards to drag (or lack of it stopping the flywheel motion). need to keep at 36 s/m for 4 mins.

I'd had a few G&T's when he was explaining it to me, however, so can't recall the exact science behind it.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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13m said:
clonmult said:
10x1 minute, 1 minute rest, not 10x1k ... don't think I've ever done a 10x1k.

The last 10x1 was done as a warm up before the 100m PB on Saturday morning. Barely broke into a sweat, averaged 1:42.8.
Have a go at 10 x 500 with 1 minute rest.

There is a theory that whatever you can average over the 10 x 500s is the pace you can maintain for 2k. So, if you can pull 1:45 you're on for a 7 minute 2k.
There are many theories over pacing - 8x500, 3:30 rest, or 6x500, 2:00 rest. In both cases being able to keep to 1:40 would indicate that you're good for sub 7.

Similarly, a 10x1 at 1:40 indicates sub 7 is possible.

Fezzaman

552 posts

194 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Those of you who do cycling as well as rowing - any rough benchmark for pacing relative to erging? No fancy wattbikes in the gym so is it pointless trying to have a reference point to compare with? I'm working off doing roughly twice the distance cycling as I was rowing a week with the same HR sessions.

Also Erik and MacGee - you guys must have finished the 1mil by now surely?

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Fezzaman said:
Those of you who do cycling as well as rowing - any rough benchmark for pacing relative to erging? No fancy wattbikes in the gym so is it pointless trying to have a reference point to compare with? I'm working off doing roughly twice the distance cycling as I was rowing a week with the same HR sessions.

Also Erik and MacGee - you guys must have finished the 1mil by now surely?
MacGee has been living the high life, making the most of the weather and has had a couple of injuries. And I've finally beaten his 100m time smile

The only correlation I've found between cycling and rowing is that they're very complimentary exercises. Doing lots of low rate sessions on the erg seemed to help my hill climb on the bike, and long sessions on the bike helped my rowing.

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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805k for me. Been preoccupied with all that caviar and champagne! Back injury has stalled my race to 1M. Now with nicer evenings want to be outside with golf and bikes. Also taken up riding again...been over 30 yrs since.

dirty doug

483 posts

196 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Fitness now recovering from holiday break but house move & work peak period mean that 1MC will have to take a back seat.

YTD total of 649,176 but that is unlikely to increase much until mid-late October, when fitness will prob be screwed again...

Brother D

3,736 posts

177 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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LambShank said:
Had a mate round Saturday who knows a thing or two about rowing - he wrapped the mesh down the middle of the fly wheel in clingfilm, and put my setting to no.1.

Something of a Eureka moment for him with regards to drag (or lack of it stopping the flywheel motion). need to keep at 36 s/m for 4 mins.

I'd had a few G&T's when he was explaining it to me, however, so can't recall the exact science behind it.
I mean if you are not allowing air to moving air then that's less energy required, same as the increase in rpm you get when you block a hoover or hairdryer.

Pretty high rate thou - but not as high as the girl at the gym I saw pulling 79spm (and pretty sure she went higher than that even), and to add, the instructor was standing next to her, but they are clueless.

I'm always tempted to say something, but then I remember I'm British, so I'm thinking I might take in a manual on 'how to row with Concept2' and leave it at the instructors desk saying "I think someone left this in the changing room", and hope they don't immediately put it in a desk drawer...


Fezzaman

552 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Henley coverage is on BTSport and Youtube again this year for those of us desk bound. Anyone heading down this weekend? Weather/conditions didn't look too great today

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Brother D said:
LambShank said:
Had a mate round Saturday who knows a thing or two about rowing - he wrapped the mesh down the middle of the fly wheel in clingfilm, and put my setting to no.1.

Something of a Eureka moment for him with regards to drag (or lack of it stopping the flywheel motion). need to keep at 36 s/m for 4 mins.

I'd had a few G&T's when he was explaining it to me, however, so can't recall the exact science behind it.
I mean if you are not allowing air to moving air then that's less energy required, same as the increase in rpm you get when you block a hoover or hairdryer.

Pretty high rate thou - but not as high as the girl at the gym I saw pulling 79spm (and pretty sure she went higher than that even), and to add, the instructor was standing next to her, but they are clueless.

I'm always tempted to say something, but then I remember I'm British, so I'm thinking I might take in a manual on 'how to row with Concept2' and leave it at the instructors desk saying "I think someone left this in the changing room", and hope they don't immediately put it in a desk drawer...
A few years back I was on an erg next to a PT taking someone through a class. I briefly tried to explain to them that they were doing it all wrong ..... the PT looked at me like I was some kind of retarded alien.

For maybe 99% of gyms, the staff don't care about the ergs, technique or to be honest I'm not even sure that most PTs even care that much about fitness.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Ouch .... lunchtime maffeton HR cap 10 (139bpm), nice and boring/relaxing.

Finished off with a couple of 100m sprints. New PB, 15.3!

Colleague asked me what I was trying to achieve. After catching my breath I said "Near death experience, sorted". Deeply unpleasant, but now I'm pretty sure that in a few months I'm going to be under 15 seconds for the 100m.