how fast can you row 2000 metres ?
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Mannginger said:
Yay a rowing thread!
I'm new to rowing, having signed up to the An Ras Mor (Ocean to City) race in Cork at the end of May (in a Cornish Pilot gig so fixed seat). It's a 28km distance so I'm not looking for pure power over the 2k but it's nice to join a related thread at least!
I've not actually done a 2k yet but I doubt I'd be able to pull a sub-8 minute as I'm very unfit still! Other accepted distance times recorded as below:
5k - 21:39
10k - 49:57
I am still targeting a sub-20 minute 5k time by the end of May but that seems pretty far off currently! I did a 15km in 1:11:23 the other day but frankly my arse was numb by the end of it so I've invested in the little concept 2 seat padding to see if that will improve matters!
34, 178cm and 87kg (See told you I was unfit!)
Not bad times. You should add them hereI'm new to rowing, having signed up to the An Ras Mor (Ocean to City) race in Cork at the end of May (in a Cornish Pilot gig so fixed seat). It's a 28km distance so I'm not looking for pure power over the 2k but it's nice to join a related thread at least!
I've not actually done a 2k yet but I doubt I'd be able to pull a sub-8 minute as I'm very unfit still! Other accepted distance times recorded as below:
5k - 21:39
10k - 49:57
I am still targeting a sub-20 minute 5k time by the end of May but that seems pretty far off currently! I did a 15km in 1:11:23 the other day but frankly my arse was numb by the end of it so I've invested in the little concept 2 seat padding to see if that will improve matters!
34, 178cm and 87kg (See told you I was unfit!)
A truly terrible erg you chaps might want to try. It’s 30mins in total, split into 5 continuous sets of 3min/2min/1min. Splits should come down 3secs on each change, then back up 3 for the next phase of 3/2/1 if that makes sense. So starting at 1:58 for 3mins, then 1:55 for 2mins then 1:52 for 1min, then back up to 1:55 for 3mins, 1:52 for 2mins and 1:49 for 1min and so on until the 30mins is up. Free rate on the whole thing. Once you finish it, drop the starting split by 1 second on the next attempt.
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king hell that sounds unpleasant!Newbie alert!! I've recently found myself starting up erg and was after some advice... (boring prelude below - sorry!)
I am 25 years old, 6'0", roughly around 165lbs and consider myself to be massively unfit despite my job and weight! I used to be competitive in swimming to the point that I was training to become professional, although pneumonia, double pneumonia, pleural effusion, both lungs collapsing, being critical for some time etc... sort of out a spanner in the works for me especially as it brought on asthma amongst other things. At that point I stopped sports of any type and haven't done much since to be honest (unless sleeping and playing with engines count as sports!)
Fast forward to this week (years on) when my girlfriend decided that she wanted to go a health kick to loose weight. To give her some encouragement I decided to help her out and also follow suit (though I don't want to loose weight!!) As such all alcohol and unhealthy food has been cut, and we decided to exercise and eat a balanced diet. We dug a Waterrower classic out of my partner's parents garage and brought it home under the premise that it would probably be a good all round work out. I underestimated how much of a workout it would be and how much I would enjoy it! The first time I ever used a rower was three days ago and let's just say I'm hooked!!! It's the first thing that I've enjoyed since my swimming days.
Now due to my lower lung capacity I'm guessing it will take me a little longer to see improvements in my times etc though I'm hoping that my hugely competitive nature will balance that out a little. I've been looking online for training schedules, times, distances etc but I seem to be reading varying material. I had intended to a 2500m rowing sprint one day with maybe a 5k jog after, and then a half hour row the next day to work on my form. I was going to do this twice then have a rest day and repeat the process. How does this sound - should I be varying it more for an improvement in my cardio?
Bearing in mind this was my first time ever on a rower these are my times...
Day one (2500m sprint) - 10m34s - average speed 02:06/500m
Day two (30 minute duration) - 6172m - average speed 02:25/500m
Day three (2500m sprint) - 10m05 - average speed 02:01/500m
How do these weigh up and what sort of figures should I be aiming for after a couple of months?
I've read about the sub 7 minute 2k which will be an ultimate goal though I fear it will take some time!!!
My other concern is loosing weight. I'd quite like to tone up but I don't really want to loose weight as I haven't much to loose without looking anorexic - hence why every other day is a short row. I'm guessing that interval training on the rower would help me with this goal?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
I am 25 years old, 6'0", roughly around 165lbs and consider myself to be massively unfit despite my job and weight! I used to be competitive in swimming to the point that I was training to become professional, although pneumonia, double pneumonia, pleural effusion, both lungs collapsing, being critical for some time etc... sort of out a spanner in the works for me especially as it brought on asthma amongst other things. At that point I stopped sports of any type and haven't done much since to be honest (unless sleeping and playing with engines count as sports!)
Fast forward to this week (years on) when my girlfriend decided that she wanted to go a health kick to loose weight. To give her some encouragement I decided to help her out and also follow suit (though I don't want to loose weight!!) As such all alcohol and unhealthy food has been cut, and we decided to exercise and eat a balanced diet. We dug a Waterrower classic out of my partner's parents garage and brought it home under the premise that it would probably be a good all round work out. I underestimated how much of a workout it would be and how much I would enjoy it! The first time I ever used a rower was three days ago and let's just say I'm hooked!!! It's the first thing that I've enjoyed since my swimming days.
Now due to my lower lung capacity I'm guessing it will take me a little longer to see improvements in my times etc though I'm hoping that my hugely competitive nature will balance that out a little. I've been looking online for training schedules, times, distances etc but I seem to be reading varying material. I had intended to a 2500m rowing sprint one day with maybe a 5k jog after, and then a half hour row the next day to work on my form. I was going to do this twice then have a rest day and repeat the process. How does this sound - should I be varying it more for an improvement in my cardio?
Bearing in mind this was my first time ever on a rower these are my times...
Day one (2500m sprint) - 10m34s - average speed 02:06/500m
Day two (30 minute duration) - 6172m - average speed 02:25/500m
Day three (2500m sprint) - 10m05 - average speed 02:01/500m
How do these weigh up and what sort of figures should I be aiming for after a couple of months?
I've read about the sub 7 minute 2k which will be an ultimate goal though I fear it will take some time!!!
My other concern is loosing weight. I'd quite like to tone up but I don't really want to loose weight as I haven't much to loose without looking anorexic - hence why every other day is a short row. I'm guessing that interval training on the rower would help me with this goal?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Hi thought I'd bring this thread to the front page where it should be!
Was in training for a half marathon, did a 15k in under 70 mins, but then got a virus which transferred to my chest - took about 3-4 weeks to get over.
That set me back a fair bit but have just done a P.B. @ 5k 20.56.3 - wiki updated
Honeymoon is coming up - all inclusive
so that will probably be my apogee for a while but before year end I'd like to think the half will be under my belt. DD
Was in training for a half marathon, did a 15k in under 70 mins, but then got a virus which transferred to my chest - took about 3-4 weeks to get over.
That set me back a fair bit but have just done a P.B. @ 5k 20.56.3 - wiki updated
Honeymoon is coming up - all inclusive
so that will probably be my apogee for a while but before year end I'd like to think the half will be under my belt. DDI haven't posted in here for a while but does anyone here know how the Concept-2 records (listed on their site) are set- as in are there any specific conditions (other than being monitored)?
The only reason I ask is that my girlfriend is something of a machine on the rower (despite only using it as a means to finish off her weights sessions) and some of her times for the 2000m sprint are getting so close to the records listed on the Concept 2 site that (without wanting to doubt her or the machines she uses) it has made me wonder if there is something else to it- i.e some conditions that are present for those record runs that we aren't aware of??
Any help would be appreciated, and obviously I am not at all jealous...
The only reason I ask is that my girlfriend is something of a machine on the rower (despite only using it as a means to finish off her weights sessions) and some of her times for the 2000m sprint are getting so close to the records listed on the Concept 2 site that (without wanting to doubt her or the machines she uses) it has made me wonder if there is something else to it- i.e some conditions that are present for those record runs that we aren't aware of??
Any help would be appreciated, and obviously I am not at all jealous...
Squirrelofwoe said:
I haven't posted in here for a while but does anyone here know how the Concept-2 records (listed on their site) are set- as in are there any specific conditions (other than being monitored)?
The only reason I ask is that my girlfriend is something of a machine on the rower (despite only using it as a means to finish off her weights sessions) and some of her times for the 2000m sprint are getting so close to the records listed on the Concept 2 site that (without wanting to doubt her or the machines she uses) it has made me wonder if there is something else to it- i.e some conditions that are present for those record runs that we aren't aware of??
Any help would be appreciated, and obviously I am not at all jealous...
Just register on the C2 website, post the times on there.The only reason I ask is that my girlfriend is something of a machine on the rower (despite only using it as a means to finish off her weights sessions) and some of her times for the 2000m sprint are getting so close to the records listed on the Concept 2 site that (without wanting to doubt her or the machines she uses) it has made me wonder if there is something else to it- i.e some conditions that are present for those record runs that we aren't aware of??
Any help would be appreciated, and obviously I am not at all jealous...
You can get a validation code from the screen (PM3 or PM4) by bringing up the time on the memory menu, then pressing the "blank" button (it has no legend on the right hand side). Key that into the C2 web site, then the time comes up as "IND_V".
Update from me ... now past the 2.5million meter point in training, and this season is turning out to be brilliant.
Set a PB on the 1k (done at free rate), set a mildly silly (for me) PB on the 5K at 18/19 spm (19m20) - way ahead of my previous free rate 5k.
reckon the only thing stopping me from getting below 7 minutes on the 2k is mental preparation.
clonmult said:
Just register on the C2 website, post the times on there.
You can get a validation code from the screen (PM3 or PM4) by bringing up the time on the memory menu, then pressing the "blank" button (it has no legend on the right hand side). Key that into the C2 web site, then the time comes up as "IND_V".
Cheers, if we make it to the gym at the weekend we'll give this ago- assuming our Concept-2s have the PM3 or 4 displays.You can get a validation code from the screen (PM3 or PM4) by bringing up the time on the memory menu, then pressing the "blank" button (it has no legend on the right hand side). Key that into the C2 web site, then the time comes up as "IND_V".
There aren't any other restrictions or set resistance levels that are used then?
M400 NBL said:
Is there a need to prove that the C2 is calibrated. Drag or whichever method.
When the gym that I go to opened, one of the 2 C2's they bought was so out I could've done a sub 5 minute 2K.
That was my first thought as I had a similar experience with one of the C2s in the gym I go to. When the gym that I go to opened, one of the 2 C2's they bought was so out I could've done a sub 5 minute 2K.
However she's done sub-7min times on several different machines now so I think it's unlikely they could all be out? The first time I got her to try a 2000m sprint (rather than just rowing until she was knackered) she did a 7.28 and that was on the same machine I had just achieved my average "good" pace on (just under 8mins)- that was over a year ago now and she's used various C2s since then.
It's certainly a possibility though!
I was wondering more along the lines of whether the record times listed were performed under any specific conditions or with any specific settings etc- and if so whether we could replicate them to get a more informed idea how she's doing.
She can do sub-7mins comfortably, but the significance of her pace means very little to her- she laughed it off when I suggested looking into competitions. She just sees it as a good way to finish off after a weights session. It's almost a bit frustrating because I can't even get close to 7mins yet she can do it even at the end of a 45min weights workout and treats it as if it's nothing! 
She used to teach gymnastics though and now does a regular combination of barbell work & spinning so she's probably got the ideal combination of strength and endurance to be good at the 2k row.
She used to teach gymnastics though and now does a regular combination of barbell work & spinning so she's probably got the ideal combination of strength and endurance to be good at the 2k row.
For these 2k's what are people using for Drag Factor?
I've been told to use DF of arounf 130 (which is about level 4-5 on the air brake). Depends on the day as well, so have to check DF on the machine. But I believe not all C2's have the computer capable of showing DF?
anyway, if you want another challenge try a stand up paddle board ergo if your gym has one. If you paddle like your supposed to (i.e. not pulling past your feet as if you do that on a board in water you start to steer the thing on every stroke) its chuffin hard work on your sides!
Gym owner managed 2:54 for 500m and when I had a go I did it in 4 and half and was blowing out my arse! Im not unfit either!
I've been told to use DF of arounf 130 (which is about level 4-5 on the air brake). Depends on the day as well, so have to check DF on the machine. But I believe not all C2's have the computer capable of showing DF?
anyway, if you want another challenge try a stand up paddle board ergo if your gym has one. If you paddle like your supposed to (i.e. not pulling past your feet as if you do that on a board in water you start to steer the thing on every stroke) its chuffin hard work on your sides!
Gym owner managed 2:54 for 500m and when I had a go I did it in 4 and half and was blowing out my arse! Im not unfit either!
Had a good rowing week last week.
Took my 5k time to 20:56 (1 minute faster) and my 10k time has dropped by nearly 3 minutes to 44:47.
The 10k was actually less of an issue than the 5k, i peaked to soon on the 5 and even though i was on course for a sub 20 minute with 2k left my legs died and it was a struggle to keep going.
Very happy with the improvement in the longer runs though.
Took my 5k time to 20:56 (1 minute faster) and my 10k time has dropped by nearly 3 minutes to 44:47.
The 10k was actually less of an issue than the 5k, i peaked to soon on the 5 and even though i was on course for a sub 20 minute with 2k left my legs died and it was a struggle to keep going.
Very happy with the improvement in the longer runs though.
I've just ordered a C2 to hire - it'll fit nicely in the lounge.
Reason for getting one - years ago my 2k in the gym stopped at 7:28 - I just couldn't get any better.
I no longer have time for the gym so thought this would be a good idea to get going again!
I'm now a few (ok, a lot) kgs heavier so I know it's going to be hard.
Another reason is my 12 yo daughter rows competitively on water (and obviously trains on ergo's in winter) and her coaches are off for most of August.
She thought she was going to get a break also...... little does she know
My 8.5 yo lad wants to have a go - are there any likely issues for someone so young using an ergo?
Reason for getting one - years ago my 2k in the gym stopped at 7:28 - I just couldn't get any better.
I no longer have time for the gym so thought this would be a good idea to get going again!
I'm now a few (ok, a lot) kgs heavier so I know it's going to be hard.
Another reason is my 12 yo daughter rows competitively on water (and obviously trains on ergo's in winter) and her coaches are off for most of August.
She thought she was going to get a break also...... little does she know
My 8.5 yo lad wants to have a go - are there any likely issues for someone so young using an ergo?
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