how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

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clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
MacGee said:
There used to be a site called Petes Plan which gave week by week sets. After 12 weeks I got sub 7. If its still there use it.
I got a personalised plan from him for very little money having a structure to training is a must for me.
Or go for the concept 2 interactive plan - a variety of distances/intervals at varying speeds leading up to the event.

996 sps

6,165 posts

216 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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clonmult said:
996 sps said:
Just rowed a 6:54 2k as entered this Brit Champs event so wanted to see where I was at - Also gives a bit of New Year Focus - What setting is the drag set at for Official 2k times?

Anyone else entered or going along?
There is no "official drag" setting. Just set it to whatever you're comfortable with. There is apparently an official setting for erg tests related to water rowing, but can't remember what it is (seems to be continual debate as to the actual figure).

6:54 is good - I'm aiming to be low 6:50s before the BRIC and then sub 6:50 on the day.

I'll be in the old/fat category (40-49, HWT), wish I had an idea of the start time, having to be there for for around 9am is going to mean an early start (walk to the station, 40 minutes train, no idea how long on the underground, etc.)
I'll see you there then! I just want to tick the box off and see what the events are like tot ake part in - Should be a good atmosphere I would imagine - I think my objective is a 06:50 and 9/10 i've found when you rock up for a competition/event you find that little bit extra (You watch i'll be a 10:30 now!).


996 sps

6,165 posts

216 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Halb said:
What training do you do to lower your 2,000 metre time?
To be honest mate the old skool tabata, Interval and HIIT type training ticks the boxes, the reason I say that is i've not been really training for a fast 2k row time but I have been ticking over with those type of sessions and it seems to have shown that it works in this case (and my case).

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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996 sps said:
clonmult said:
996 sps said:
Just rowed a 6:54 2k as entered this Brit Champs event so wanted to see where I was at - Also gives a bit of New Year Focus - What setting is the drag set at for Official 2k times?

Anyone else entered or going along?
There is no "official drag" setting. Just set it to whatever you're comfortable with. There is apparently an official setting for erg tests related to water rowing, but can't remember what it is (seems to be continual debate as to the actual figure).

6:54 is good - I'm aiming to be low 6:50s before the BRIC and then sub 6:50 on the day.

I'll be in the old/fat category (40-49, HWT), wish I had an idea of the start time, having to be there for for around 9am is going to mean an early start (walk to the station, 40 minutes train, no idea how long on the underground, etc.)
I'll see you there then! I just want to tick the box off and see what the events are like tot ake part in - Should be a good atmosphere I would imagine - I think my objective is a 06:50 and 9/10 i've found when you rock up for a competition/event you find that little bit extra (You watch i'll be a 10:30 now!).
This will be your first competition?

I've done two before - EIRC and a mile. Both were quite educational with regards pacing. Remember to work at your own pace - don't be tempted to do a fly and die ... prior to the EIRC I was at 7:20, put in a 7:07 on the day. Over the last few months I put in a 7:01, then november was purely about doing distance work - which is probably what gave me the confidence to achieve sub 7. 6:50 is definitely achievable, you'll definitely get that (probably a bit faster).

With regards training, HIIT and tabata are absolute killers. Haven't done a tabata in a good few months.

I dialled in my first "real" training session of the year last night. 16x250m, 1 minute rest. HRM gave me a scare half way, it suddenly decided I was hitting 195bpm. My peak this year has been 180 - the HRM just had a moments madness. But still, I averaged 1:41. Mild doms today smile

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Excellent. Thanks for the responses all. smile

andysgriff

913 posts

260 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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After 1 year of doing nothing but lazing about and drinking I bought a concept 2 last month in a desperate attempt to get fit...and did my 1st 2k this morning in 8.20.. things can omly get better

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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I did 6.40. some years ago at Manchester.It was done on a diet of mainly quick 500 intervals and lots of flat out 100 .NO matter what time you do it hurts like fk if you put the effort in.

andysgriff

913 posts

260 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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After 1 year of doing nothing but lazing about and drinking I bought a concept 2 last month in a desperate attempt to get fit...and did my 1st 2k this morning in 8.20.. things can omly get better

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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andysgriff said:
After 1 year of doing nothing but lazing about and drinking I bought a concept 2 last month in a desperate attempt to get fit...and did my 1st 2k this morning in 8.20.. things can omly get better
Good effort mate` actually getting your fat arse of the sofa is the hardest part now if I can only find a way to get my own arse into gear

andysgriff

913 posts

260 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
andysgriff said:
After 1 year of doing nothing but lazing about and drinking I bought a concept 2 last month in a desperate attempt to get fit...and did my 1st 2k this morning in 8.20.. things can omly get better
Good effort mate` actually getting your fat arse of the sofa is the hardest part now if I can only find a way to get my own arse into gear
thanks, I gave up with gyms as I just dont have the time,I found a used Model E for £700 off fleabay with 0 meters..

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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andysgriff said:
thanks, I gave up with gyms as I just dont have the time,I found a used Model E for £700 off fleabay with 0 meters..
get yourself on the concept side they have some good training programmes be careful though it can be addictive.Great price for a model E though

andysgriff

913 posts

260 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
andysgriff said:
thanks, I gave up with gyms as I just dont have the time,I found a used Model E for £700 off fleabay with 0 meters..
get yourself on the concept side they have some good training programmes be careful though it can be addictive.Great price for a model E though
thanks for that I shall have a look.

andysgriff

913 posts

260 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
andysgriff said:
thanks, I gave up with gyms as I just dont have the time,I found a used Model E for £700 off fleabay with 0 meters..
get yourself on the concept side they have some good training programmes be careful though it can be addictive.Great price for a model E though
thanks for that I shall have a look.

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
I did 6.40. some years ago at Manchester.It was done on a diet of mainly quick 500 intervals and lots of flat out 100 .NO matter what time you do it hurts like fk if you put the effort in.
There is absolutely no doubt that if you do it right, by the end of a 2k race you feel worse than death. At my first race I was knackered but very chatty. The woman sat by the erg commented that "you obviously could have gone faster if you can talk like that after 2k". She was right. I went on to the 500m a few hours later and ... I have never felt worse (or better, depending on your PoV).

The 100 is a very different event though, totally different technique required to get the time down. Probably useful for the final sprint on the 2k, not that I've tried.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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clonmult said:
The 100 is a very different event though, totally different technique required to get the time down. Probably useful for the final sprint on the 2k, not that I've tried.
How so? All back, or something like that?

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Halb said:
clonmult said:
The 100 is a very different event though, totally different technique required to get the time down. Probably useful for the final sprint on the 2k, not that I've tried.
How so? All back, or something like that?
On the 500m and further most people tend to go for a full length drive - ie. pulling from as far forward as you can, then mildly leaning back.

The 100m tends to be much shorter/faster drives - so instead of pulling 30 strokes per minute as you would on other distances, on the 100m you'd be pulling the equivalent of 45 or 50spm (or much higher). You also probably use the arms a fair bit more.

It does work - I couldn't get under 17 seconds with a full length drive. Cut that down and my time dropped massively (16.3 iirc).

VerbalKint

299 posts

207 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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I know this is a thread for the 2k but this week I've done the following:

5k @ 20.00.6 and
7082m for 30 minutes.

How do I put this onto the wiki? I'm afraid I'll mess it up!

Mad March Taffy

508 posts

119 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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Any PH-ers out there know of a Concept II rower for sale at a sensible price?

SpydieNut

5,800 posts

223 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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VerbalKint said:
I know this is a thread for the 2k but this week I've done the following:

5k @ 20.00.6 and
7082m for 30 minutes.

How do I put this onto the wiki? I'm afraid I'll mess it up!
nicely done thumbup

done that for you - just hit 'update' and then ammend the details, then save.

Robbo66

3,834 posts

233 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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Just back into it, as can't run due to impact on knee.
19:40 for 5k, 10 years ago pulled low 19's so some work to do.

Personal best for 2000 was 6:59, 15 years ago in BIRC....that will take some repeating.

49 now....mmmmm.

Edited by Robbo66 on Friday 9th January 19:01