how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

[DuncB7]

It's probably been covered at length but, how are you guys tracking your YTD total?

Keen to use this thread as some motivation to reduce my 2k time. Have only gone sub 8min twice. Cannot even begin to understand those of you sub 6/7 minutes.

[13m]

I have only been rowing for a few months and have also just had hernia surgery. Been back on the erd for 2 weeks. Each Friday for the next few weeks I intend to do one of the standard distances and set a PB (by default) and then aim to better it over the summer.

Today was 6k, which I did in 24:55.

Quick question - I am 5ft 9.5in and my rowing partner is over 6ft. Is there any way in which my technique should vary from his to compensate for my height?

[dirty doug]

DuncB7 said:

It's probably been covered at length but, how are you guys tracking your YTD total?

log.concept2.com

Is a great place to sign up to. Keeps a log of everything you put in. Time, distance, pace etc See my screenshot for an example

Also challenges & rankings to see how good (or bad) you are in your age group, sex, weight etc

The YTD log in there works on their year though - iirc it starts 1st May, so I have kept a paper log for this challenge - old fashioned I know!

Edited by dirty doug on Friday 12th February 15:48

Edited by dirty doug on Friday 12th February 15:52

[ErikLondon]

DuncB7 said:

It's probably been covered at length but, how are you guys tracking your YTD total?

Keen to use this thread as some motivation to reduce my 2k time. Have only gone sub 8min twice. Cannot even begin to understand those of you sub 6/7 minutes.

Nice fancy excel spreadsheet (I'm a finance geek for a living so couldn't help it...) so I can track my rowing as well as weight as well as heart rates, etc. Spits out lots of fancy stats about averages, weekly comparisons, weight loss stats, improvements, etc Basically seeing a graph with your meters going up and your weight going down is the best motivation for me!

[Rich1973]

Only went to gym twice last week as I forgot my trainers Friday. Weighed up rowing in safety boots or socks and figured neither was viable!
23k last week and 36.8k this.
Total for year now at 161.5k.
I am logging my 6000, 30 minute and 11000 times / distance on a spreadsheet and seen my 6k time come down from 29 minutes mid November last year to 26 and a half now. Getting there slowly although weight isnt really coming off. Building muscle though which I assume is why.

[MacGee]

Concept log is ideal. Phone app called ergdata can sync pm5 to your logbook. 210k for me.

[Fezzaman]

Weekly update - clocked up 36k (3x12k) but battling illness and it showed with heart rate climbing later in the week for same split, going to force myself to go for a lighter week this week. I say 'light' but a couple of 12ks a week seem comfortable now and any extra is just a bonus. 187810m to date. Hope everyone's still clocking up the miles!

[clonmult]

ErikLondon said:

DuncB7 said:

It's probably been covered at length but, how are you guys tracking your YTD total?

Keen to use this thread as some motivation to reduce my 2k time. Have only gone sub 8min twice. Cannot even begin to understand those of you sub 6/7 minutes.

Nice fancy excel spreadsheet (I'm a finance geek for a living so couldn't help it...) so I can track my rowing as well as weight as well as heart rates, etc. Spits out lots of fancy stats about averages, weekly comparisons, weight loss stats, improvements, etc Basically seeing a graph with your meters going up and your weight going down is the best motivation for me!

Your nice fancy spreadsheet is poor compared to what is now possible on the logbook if you use the ergdata application to record the sessions from your phone.

It is now way geekier, gives way more information - a phone with ergdata, connected via cable to a PM3/4 or via bluetooth to a PM5 gives a pretty awesome breakdown of your sessions, and also gives information that the regular PM3/4/5 just cannot display (drive length being a rather handy one).

[clonmult]

151k in January (it was a quiet month), so far 121k this month, makes for a tidy 272km this year.

Feeling good, really good. Although in 5 weeks time I'm going to be doing both 2 and 10k trials - which is going to be deeply unpleasant.

[ErikLondon]

clonmult said:

Your nice fancy spreadsheet is poor compared to what is now possible on the logbook if you use the ergdata application to record the sessions from your phone.

It is now way geekier, gives way more information - a phone with ergdata, connected via cable to a PM3/4 or via bluetooth to a PM5 gives a pretty awesome breakdown of your sessions, and also gives information that the regular PM3/4/5 just cannot display (drive length being a rather handy one).

Depends how detailed your spreadsheet is.

I record every distance and time into my spreadsheet together with my daily weight. Based on these I have outputs for a huge number of variables from totals, imprvements per week/month, pace avg/splits/improvement/max/min, weight correlation to distance, etc etc.

I don't really look at stroke length etc. For me the key thing is to see how my pace/fitness is improving based on a given fixed distance and then use that to derive future performance targets. Overlaying weight, etc is also nice graphically. Haven't included the heart rate as I have never worn a monitor but based on the comments here I might get one.

Anyway, who cares how you record it - as long as you are happy/rowing!

PS - terrible week last week - only 28k due to travelling 4 days without access to a gym - must do better this week!

[MacGee]

agree with above..whatever suits you. ergdata takes little effort and is enough for me. box available for workout comments. 220k for me now.
concept have sent my record certificates for my skierg and 100m erg efforts.

[clonmult]

ErikLondon said:

clonmult said:

Your nice fancy spreadsheet is poor compared to what is now possible on the logbook if you use the ergdata application to record the sessions from your phone.

It is now way geekier, gives way more information - a phone with ergdata, connected via cable to a PM3/4 or via bluetooth to a PM5 gives a pretty awesome breakdown of your sessions, and also gives information that the regular PM3/4/5 just cannot display (drive length being a rather handy one).

Depends how detailed your spreadsheet is.

I record every distance and time into my spreadsheet together with my daily weight. Based on these I have outputs for a huge number of variables from totals, imprvements per week/month, pace avg/splits/improvement/max/min, weight correlation to distance, etc etc.

I don't really look at stroke length etc. For me the key thing is to see how my pace/fitness is improving based on a given fixed distance and then use that to derive future performance targets. Overlaying weight, etc is also nice graphically. Haven't included the heart rate as I have never worn a monitor but based on the comments here I might get one.

Anyway, who cares how you record it - as long as you are happy/rowing!

PS - terrible week last week - only 28k due to travelling 4 days without access to a gym - must do better this week!

The updated ergdata application and the way it feeds into the logbook is rather brilliant. With one caveat - connecting to a PM5 via bluetooth never seems to work right, it always disconnects (cable connection is absolutely flawless). I'm trialling the android beta which automates the recording process.

Stroke length is handy when you're working on technique, having drag factor on screen is also darned useful.

Ergdata gives you stroke count, drive length, average force, drag factor, drive speed, peak force. They really have done a fantastic job in updating the service. And when you work with the C2 Logbook, there are the freebies - pins, tee shirts, etc. when you reach certain milestones. And come on, freebies!!!

[clonmult]

MacGee said:

agree with above..whatever suits you. ergdata takes little effort and is enough for me. box available for workout comments. 220k for me now.
concept have sent my record certificates for my skierg and 100m erg efforts.

I'm really not enjoying the skerg (as the other halfs son calls it), it really is a league more pain than the erg. Give me a 10x100 at full blast on the erg over any session on the skerg.

With time guess I'll get used to it ....

[ErikLondon]

clonmult said:

ErikLondon said:

clonmult said:

Your nice fancy spreadsheet is poor compared to what is now possible on the logbook if you use the ergdata application to record the sessions from your phone.

It is now way geekier, gives way more information - a phone with ergdata, connected via cable to a PM3/4 or via bluetooth to a PM5 gives a pretty awesome breakdown of your sessions, and also gives information that the regular PM3/4/5 just cannot display (drive length being a rather handy one).

Depends how detailed your spreadsheet is.

I record every distance and time into my spreadsheet together with my daily weight. Based on these I have outputs for a huge number of variables from totals, imprvements per week/month, pace avg/splits/improvement/max/min, weight correlation to distance, etc etc.

I don't really look at stroke length etc. For me the key thing is to see how my pace/fitness is improving based on a given fixed distance and then use that to derive future performance targets. Overlaying weight, etc is also nice graphically. Haven't included the heart rate as I have never worn a monitor but based on the comments here I might get one.

Anyway, who cares how you record it - as long as you are happy/rowing!

PS - terrible week last week - only 28k due to travelling 4 days without access to a gym - must do better this week!

The updated ergdata application and the way it feeds into the logbook is rather brilliant. With one caveat - connecting to a PM5 via bluetooth never seems to work right, it always disconnects (cable connection is absolutely flawless). I'm trialling the android beta which automates the recording process.

Stroke length is handy when you're working on technique, having drag factor on screen is also darned useful.

Ergdata gives you stroke count, drive length, average force, drag factor, drive speed, peak force. They really have done a fantastic job in updating the service. And when you work with the C2 Logbook, there are the freebies - pins, tee shirts, etc. when you reach certain milestones. And come on, freebies!!!

Didn't know about the Freebies.... May have to give this ErgData that you speak of a try...!

[callmedave]

I saw this thread title but never came in to read.

I was at the gym Friday (for a run initially) and thought i would give it a go.

8:24.

How does this compare? are we keeping track anywhere?

[clonmult]

ErikLondon said:

Didn't know about the Freebies.... May have to give this ErgData that you speak of a try...!

I am loving the second by second breakdown. Really do need to try the 100m on fresh legs, this was after a 5x750m intervals session (faster than current 2k pace).

Ergdata is like this for iOS, but only like this in beta for Android - the logbook seems to have considerable potential that is only just starting to be realised. And for once, the PM5 and Z5C decided to pair straight up, HRM belt (Polar) paired up to both the watch and ergdata without any problems - the latest beta is looking good.

• edit* as thumbsnap seems to be borked for me right now.

[clonmult]

callmedave said:

I saw this thread title but never came in to read.

I was at the gym Friday (for a run initially) and thought i would give it a go.

8:24.

How does this compare? are we keeping track anywhere?

Whilst there is a sticky at the top of Health Matter, the erg is a battle with yourself, pushing to better yourself, not necessarily about beating others - unless you're in an actual indoor rowing competition.

You've set a marker, train for a few weeks, then come back and do it again, see how much you have improved

[callmedave]

clonmult said:

Whilst there is a sticky at the top of Health Matter, the erg is a battle with yourself, pushing to better yourself, not necessarily about beating others - unless you're in an actual indoor rowing competition.

You've set a marker, train for a few weeks, then come back and do it again, see how much you have improved

Thanks, Will do.

[addey]

Very impressed with you guys all putting in consistent weeks of big distances. I managed 37k last week which is easily the most I've ever done in one week, however the week prior to that I only got to the gym twice for 15km! So total so far is only ~82km but will keep plugging away and try to get a bit more consistency. Ultimately my aim is to get faster (like all the rest of you i expect!) so it will be a bonus if I reach the million metres.

slightly OT but a couple of guys I know of set a 24hr world record on the weekend - 350,342 metres

http://guernseypress.com/news/2016/02/15/duo-break...

clonmult, that ergdata app sounds good, what cable do you use to connect to a PM3 (think the gym rowers are PM3)? Is it a just a USB port?

[clonmult]

addey said:

Very impressed with you guys all putting in consistent weeks of big distances. I managed 37k last week which is easily the most I've ever done in one week, however the week prior to that I only got to the gym twice for 15km! So total so far is only ~82km but will keep plugging away and try to get a bit more consistency. Ultimately my aim is to get faster (like all the rest of you i expect!) so it will be a bonus if I reach the million metres.

slightly OT but a couple of guys I know of set a 24hr world record on the weekend - 350,342 metres

http://guernseypress.com/news/2016/02/15/duo-break...

clonmult, that ergdata app sounds good, what cable do you use to connect to a PM3 (think the gym rowers are PM3)? Is it a just a USB port?

It is just a standard USB cable, I bought the cable that C2 sell, along with the phone cradle. Really is rather good.

Kudos to your mates on that 24 hour, keeping on going for 24 hours is absolute hell, doing it with two lightweights .... jeeze. I was on a team that set british and world records over 24 hours - 30 of us split into 4 teams, minute on for everyone, rotating around for 24 hours. We covered 453km, averaged around 1:35 pace.

Thankfully it is rare for anyone to be in a rush to break these endurance records. Prior to heading out on the atlantic row, my mates were talking of trying for a 1 million meter record. After the hell that they've experienced out at sea, I don't think they'll want to row for quite a while now.