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996 sps

6,165 posts

216 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Herbie58 said:
996 sps said:
Herbie58 said:
FunkyNige said:
996 sps said:
Swim 10k in an outdoor comp and hold my own.
How quick a time are we talking here? I saw the mile race on TV and
am tempted, reckon I could do it in 30 mins without too much bother and am very tempted to give it a go. So my 10k time would be around 3.5-4
hours, would this be ridiculously slow?
Nope, I used to train long distance
outdoor swimmers. And that would be a very good time. You can go a bit quicker indoors because the cold water wouldn't be slowing you down
over time. You'll have to put in a fair bit of training for it though, and other cardio work (running/cross training) will help improve your times.


Glad you answered this as I have no idea of time I just enter events and work out areas I need to work on, I have done the Bournemouth
International Tri and charity swim to Isle of Wight and just went for it with no idea of time just as long as I am racing someone i ll keep going. Could
you direct us of where and how I can enter outdoor swims?
Assuming you want to do a swim
down south then get in touch with the BLDSA (British long distance swimming association). Don't let the name fool you - they organise everything from 1 mile lake swims to channel crossings. They will provide you with details of all swims coming up (mainly may to sept) and how you can enter.

There are a couple of things you need in order to take part in organised outdoor swimming. Insurance (achieved by joining the
bldsa) and a boat crew (a boatman and a lifesaver), you can provide your own but in tidal water they would have to be a seasoned crew or you'd never keep course.

I'd suggest you go for a lake or loch swim instead. There is an annual
swim at Windermere, which would be very challenging, but they normally do lake conniston the same
weekend which would be a better first swim. You will need to complete entry forms etc.

In short, The bldsa will provide advice on training, the event itself, insurance, a boat crew, Judges and referees, medical
staff and all other paraphernalia needed to make sure these things are well organised and safe.
Herbie I have started my swimming training and been on web site for BLDSA and see the season starts in May (I see what you mean about lake Windermere looks a beast!) is there anywhere I can swim outside now in a wet-suit which is safe? Also you said about me looking down South but I do not mind travelling, just keen to start outdoors as the pool is giving me a false comfort.

ukwill

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8,911 posts

207 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Im finding that the squats / deads and pullups are pretty much all I need to focus on (apart from the cardio stuff), to get this thing done.

Have seen an amazing improvement since beginning this early last month. Really enjoying it again now and looking forward to the gym. And all from only 2x 35m sessions per week! Ok, so I do a small bit of running and use the powertrainer at home, but not daily.

The trainer seems keen to impress on me that its more to do with proper technique and power movements, than seeing how many hours a day you can stay at the gym for. Before now, I would simply go and do 3 sets of 10 on whatever I was working on, and chuck in about 3 different exercises per bodypart. Whilst that no doubt helped, I can see now that it wasn't necessarily the best approach for me.

smile

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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I've worked out a new exercise using the powerbar: climbing sling round bar, lay so body almost horizontal (30 degrees to horizontal), pull up to 45 degrees keeping body straight. It's a whole new set of exercises!

ukwill

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8,911 posts

207 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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ShadownINja said:
I've worked out a new exercise using the powerbar: climbing sling round bar, lay so body almost horizontal (30 degrees to horizontal), pull up to 45 degrees keeping body straight. It's a whole new set of exercises!
blimey that sounds interesting! im trying to visualise it but I dont think I'm getting it. if youre laying almost horizontal, how do you get up to the bar?

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
I've worked out a new exercise using the powerbar: climbing sling round bar, lay so body almost horizontal (30 degrees to horizontal), pull up to 45 degrees keeping body straight. It's a whole new set of exercises!
blimey that sounds interesting! im trying to visualise it but I dont think I'm getting it. if youre laying almost horizontal, how do you get up to the bar?
Two slings (or loop of rope) that are about 1.5m long dangle down from the bar. Sit down beneath bar. Hook three fingertips (or a hand) through each loop. Get into a plank position. Pull upwards. It's the nearest thing I can simulate to climbing under a roof.

These kind of ideas:




My friend was trying it and she had her body completely straight so I could work out if the forces were right for the bar. It is a good work out for forearms (if use fingertips), biceps, lower back muscles/core, upper back muscles.

Edited by ShadownINja on Saturday 16th January 10:10

ukwill

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8,911 posts

207 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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ShadownINja said:
ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
I've worked out a new exercise using the powerbar: climbing sling round bar, lay so body almost horizontal (30 degrees to horizontal), pull up to 45 degrees keeping body straight. It's a whole new set of exercises!
blimey that sounds interesting! im trying to visualise it but I dont think I'm getting it. if youre laying almost horizontal, how do you get up to the bar?
Two slings (or loop of rope) that are about 1.5m long dangle down from the bar. Sit down beneath bar. Hook three fingertips (or a hand) through each loop. Get into a plank position. Pull upwards. It's the nearest thing I can simulate to climbing under a roof.
oh yes, now I see it.

a little similar to this maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtNXo-29d3Q

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
I've worked out a new exercise using the powerbar: climbing sling round bar, lay so body almost horizontal (30 degrees to horizontal), pull up to 45 degrees keeping body straight. It's a whole new set of exercises!
blimey that sounds interesting! im trying to visualise it but I dont think I'm getting it. if youre laying almost horizontal, how do you get up to the bar?
Two slings (or loop of rope) that are about 1.5m long dangle down from the bar. Sit down beneath bar. Hook three fingertips (or a hand) through each loop. Get into a plank position. Pull upwards. It's the nearest thing I can simulate to climbing under a roof.
oh yes, now I see it.

a little similar to this maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtNXo-29d3Q
Yeah! Just couldn't describe it correctly. So that's something else you can do with the pull up bar if you have suitable rope.

tricky69

1,696 posts

242 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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if you have an iphone get iPullups - it is the same as the website really and keeps a log for you

okgo

38,050 posts

198 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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okgo said:
Bench 140 kg
Sqaut 160 kg
Dead 185 kg

Be able to do pull ups without noticing, same with dips, 22 y/o 90-95kg depending on day etc.

Not got the cardio ones sorted yet, but have a 110 mile race to do in june, on the bike.

ETA my dad ran a 10k recently in Richmond, and the guy that won was between 40-50 an his time was pretty much on 30 mins!

Edited by okgo on Saturday 2nd January 03:15
Well, that was an eye opener...

Targets :
Bench 140 kg - was able to manage 100 for a few reps but not easy, i suspect this will be the hardest challenge.

Sqaut 160 kg - Was comfortable with 130 so with some effort this should be ok

Dead 185 kg - Second week in and I am fine for 140, so will be upping it this week a bit. This will be do able.

Why is my bench so st?!

Animal

5,249 posts

268 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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Long arms? Weak shoulders? Your bench is far better than mine!

Have a look at this: http://www.criticalbench.com/Scott-Mendelson.htm might give you some tips.

If you do make it, don't forget to yell so much that you faint and fall face first onto a dumbbell rack like that man deadlifting on YouTube!

Nic jones

7,053 posts

220 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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5lbs down thus far and plenty more to go and the diet still has scope to be more challenging. I daren't lose it much faster as I hear there is more chance of it all going back on again?

okgo

38,050 posts

198 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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Animal said:
Long arms? Weak shoulders? Your bench is far better than mine!

Have a look at this: http://www.criticalbench.com/Scott-Mendelson.htm might give you some tips.

If you do make it, don't forget to yell so much that you faint and fall face first onto a dumbbell rack like that man deadlifting on YouTube!
Long arms I would say yes, not sure if my shoulders are weak, I am rubbish at overhead shoulder press, not the push, but the stability and technique.

I see a guy that is my size up top and probably weighs 85kg pressing 40 kg dumbells.. mental. Well that is obviously something to concentrate on then!

Also the fact I have only done incline bench for the last 10 months or so come into it? I couldn't do flat as it put too much pressure on my abdomen, and I had a hernia..

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
Yeah, that was my thinking. I might get one and place cloth at all contact points. Would that make it unsafe to use in any way?
No, that would work just fine. smile
Cool. So how many can you do before crying for your mummy?
full lock-arm ones? embarrasingly few (4-5 ish at the mo!) (hence the resolution)

see too many people cheating with this exercise - decided i wanted to do each one from a dead hang. for me, this is bloody hard!

nevertheless, i will do it. and soon enough biggrin
Cool. Let's check at end of January. smile
eek whooaa there! I've got a bet on at work - I've got til June to nail this. Not going to happen within 4wks!!! (although I'd like to get to 8-10 if at all poss - cant rush it)
How is it going?

Tried any one finger pull-ups? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkqIG2Zbn4biggrin

This is my DIY project for next week: http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=13...

okgo

38,050 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Got a powerbar too guys, so far so good.

although as shadowninja knows it fits one out of my 7 doors lol.

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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An update for you all.

My first home-made, customisable fingerboard. All ropes and slings are suitable for carrying my weight and were purchased at a local climbing shop. The black apparatus resting against the door is a Powerbar chin-up bar. The wooden holds were made by a UKC climber but I expect you could either make your own or attach commercially-made holds (yet to test them). The future plan is to drill more holes and swap the current holds for crimps but what you see in the photo is just a test of an idea I had.

You can still use the Powerbar for pull-ups without removing the fingerboard. The slings allow me to do horizontal rows. Or pretend I'm riding an invisible horse when used as stirrups.

Don't even think of using glue. I used Araldite and ended up ripping a layer of plywood out and sitting 4 feet below the fingerboard with a pair of holds in my hands.





ukwill

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8,911 posts

207 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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ShadownINja said:
An update for you all.
that looks pretty cool, although I would have no chance of getting away with that. she keeps taking it down as it is!

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
An update for you all.
that looks pretty cool, although I would have no chance of getting away with that. she keeps taking it down as it is!
You can put it back pretty quickly as you don't need to remove the fingerboard.

ukwill

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8,911 posts

207 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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ShadownINja said:
ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
An update for you all.
that looks pretty cool, although I would have no chance of getting away with that. she keeps taking it down as it is!
You can put it back pretty quickly as you don't need to remove the fingerboard.
yeah - its just that she wouldnt go for the "look" whilst it was up. Spose I could keep taking it up and down, but meh.

do those ropes stretch? i wouldnt mind getting some stretchy ropes so that I can get some assistance when i want to do more than i could do without assistance.

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
ukwill said:
ShadownINja said:
An update for you all.
that looks pretty cool, although I would have no chance of getting away with that. she keeps taking it down as it is!
You can put it back pretty quickly as you don't need to remove the fingerboard.
yeah - its just that she wouldnt go for the "look" whilst it was up. Spose I could keep taking it up and down, but meh.

do those ropes stretch? i wouldnt mind getting some stretchy ropes so that I can get some assistance when i want to do more than i could do without assistance.
nuts

No, they are "static" ropes so suitable for abseiling only. Put a chair under and stand on it "loosely" if you need assistance.

ShadownINja

76,366 posts

282 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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And now the fun begins.