protein shakes
Discussion
goldblum said:
Bales + Animal obviously you're in excellent condition so why don't you show everyone you're sixpacks?
Let me guess..."I don't have to show a photo of my abs to prove anything to you"..blah blah bulls
t.
Go on boys...
Bluff called.
Ha ha, yeah right.Let me guess..."I don't have to show a photo of my abs to prove anything to you"..blah blah bulls
t.Go on boys...
Bluff called.
I'm not putting up a picture of my abs as I have nothing to prove to someone on the internet - plus I'll look like a dick!
goldblum said:
Bales - does the time I've been a member on PH have any bearing on whether or not I'm qualified
to speak on a subject? Thought not.
Green Tea? You'll see lots of gym goers drinking that.(never seen one because it's a gimmick)
Also controlling what you allow you're bowels to absorb should only be used in the short term,
as a good diet is a far better way to achieve the same goal,and far more healthy.
I made no comment about when to take protein,but after a workout is good.
Bales + Animal obviously you're in excellent condition so why don't you show everyone you're sixpacks?
Let me guess..."I don't have to show a photo of my abs to prove anything to you"..blah blah bullst.
Go on boys...
Bluff called.
I think you have a case of the Ghey wanting to see other mens abs.to speak on a subject? Thought not.
Green Tea? You'll see lots of gym goers drinking that.(never seen one because it's a gimmick)
Also controlling what you allow you're bowels to absorb should only be used in the short term,
as a good diet is a far better way to achieve the same goal,and far more healthy.
I made no comment about when to take protein,but after a workout is good.
Bales + Animal obviously you're in excellent condition so why don't you show everyone you're sixpacks?
Let me guess..."I don't have to show a photo of my abs to prove anything to you"..blah blah bulls
t.Go on boys...
Bluff called.
Since this is on my club website anyway then what the hell!
Not an abs pic but at least shows I'm not a fat balding bloke who spends all his time talking about his physique on the internet!
Though as you can tell I obviously will have a beer belly but I'm not showing that!
Not an abs pic but at least shows I'm not a fat balding bloke who spends all his time talking about his physique on the internet!
Though as you can tell I obviously will have a beer belly but I'm not showing that!
Edited by bales on Tuesday 6th July 15:59
LordGrover said:
Don't feed it.
No, please don't.Sorry for my questions bringing it out, too.
To those that've answered correctly - head of the class for you, and my thanks, also.
My six pack awaits...I'll even post a piccie when it's here, if you like (or is that all too ghey? A tad like asking folk to do the same
)Cheers,
C.
EFS
Edited by Caractacus on Friday 25th June 19:29
bales said:
Since this is on my club website anyway then what the hell!
Not an abs pic but at least shows I'm not a fat balding bloke who spends all his time talking about his physique on the internet!
Though as you can tell I obviously will have a beer belly but I'm not showing that!
Having seen those shoes a beer belly is the last of your worries! What were you running?Not an abs pic but at least shows I'm not a fat balding bloke who spends all his time talking about his physique on the internet!
Though as you can tell I obviously will have a beer belly but I'm not showing that!
Animal said:
bales said:
Since this is on my club website anyway then what the hell!
Not an abs pic but at least shows I'm not a fat balding bloke who spends all his time talking about his physique on the internet!
Though as you can tell I obviously will have a beer belly but I'm not showing that!
Having seen those shoes a beer belly is the last of your worries! What were you running?Not an abs pic but at least shows I'm not a fat balding bloke who spends all his time talking about his physique on the internet!
Though as you can tell I obviously will have a beer belly but I'm not showing that!
OK - I'll risk the slagging I might be about to get but . .
Quite a few posters on this and other threads have said protein powders are of little use. I've been training for longer than many of these have been alive probably and have tried all sorts, especially at times when I've had to lose weight - sometimes drastically - at the same time as trying to keep strength/ muscle up.
Obviously I can't say for certain how my body would have gone without protein but from my experience I do suspect that powder/protein bars have helped, especially since moving to taking a shake straight after training.
I agree that an ideal diet is ideal and then the need would be v. reduced, but if calorie consumption and, especially, time are issues I think they have something to offer. How many of us have jobs where we can fit in the 6 meals per day recommended so often, even a chicken breast or whatever might be hard to get in whereas a drinks bottle is more accessible/useable and not so off putting for clients!
Quite a few posters on this and other threads have said protein powders are of little use. I've been training for longer than many of these have been alive probably and have tried all sorts, especially at times when I've had to lose weight - sometimes drastically - at the same time as trying to keep strength/ muscle up.
Obviously I can't say for certain how my body would have gone without protein but from my experience I do suspect that powder/protein bars have helped, especially since moving to taking a shake straight after training.
I agree that an ideal diet is ideal and then the need would be v. reduced, but if calorie consumption and, especially, time are issues I think they have something to offer. How many of us have jobs where we can fit in the 6 meals per day recommended so often, even a chicken breast or whatever might be hard to get in whereas a drinks bottle is more accessible/useable and not so off putting for clients!
bales said:
Was doing a 100m! Don't have the red shoes anymore have some gold ones now 
Bling, bling! Ahh, the good old 100m...last time I ran that I was 18 - 20yrs ago now.
What's your best time? Mine was 11.00 flat with a just 'legal' tail wind. I reckon I'd be lucky to post 14.00 flat at the moment (downhill with a big tail wind), LOL.
Caractacus said:
bales said:
Was doing a 100m! Don't have the red shoes anymore have some gold ones now
Bling, bling! Ahh, the good old 100m...last time I ran that I was 18 - 20yrs ago now.
What's your best time? Mine was 11.00 flat with a just 'legal' tail wind. I reckon I'd be lucky to post 14.00 flat at the moment (downhill with a big tail wind), LOL.
Thats a very good time btw, who did you run for?
Ok. Quick question for those not perving on Bales' flat stomach or sexual footwear
I've been weight training for a couple of years now, and have had good results. However, I feel that I could achieve better results with a higher protein intake. I've looked on myprotein.com as recommended by a few people and have come across both impact whey, and true whey. Could anybody explain what the difference is and if either one would benefit me more? Basically i just want to add a bit more muscle bulk than I'm currently putting on through weights alone. My diet does contain protein, but not as much as I feel I could do with. It also isn't really that changeable without changing my girlfriends diet too and I think she might have something to say about that!
Thanks.
I've been weight training for a couple of years now, and have had good results. However, I feel that I could achieve better results with a higher protein intake. I've looked on myprotein.com as recommended by a few people and have come across both impact whey, and true whey. Could anybody explain what the difference is and if either one would benefit me more? Basically i just want to add a bit more muscle bulk than I'm currently putting on through weights alone. My diet does contain protein, but not as much as I feel I could do with. It also isn't really that changeable without changing my girlfriends diet too and I think she might have something to say about that!
Thanks.
IMO simply upping your protein will have no effect. I've read somewhere recently that increasing protein above something like 30% has little or no effect - I'm sure you can also find some research showing the opposite though I expect. Eat better and cleaner - I'd guess your gf would have a problem with that though. Chicken breast and brown rice is not the most interesting of meals and it takes some commitment/desire to keep to a clean diet.
Keep to the 'norm'; six small, balanced meals with maybe a quality shake & banana post workout and plenty of rest.
ETA - I'm sure someone with some real, current knowledge will be along shortly though.
Keep to the 'norm'; six small, balanced meals with maybe a quality shake & banana post workout and plenty of rest.
ETA - I'm sure someone with some real, current knowledge will be along shortly though.
Edited by LordGrover on Monday 28th June 12:55
LordGrover said:
IMO simply upping your protein will have no effect. I've read somewhere recently that increasing protein above something like 30% has little or no effect - I'm sure you can also find some research showing the opposite though I expect. Eat better and cleaner - I'd guess your gf would have a problem with that though. Chicken breast and brown rice is not the most interesting of meals and it takes some commitment/desire to keep to a clean diet.
Keep to the 'norm'; six small, balanced meals with maybe a quality shake & banana post workout and plenty of rest.
We do have a very clean diet. Fish, meat, plenty of vegetables and fruit, brown rice, wholemeal pasta and bread. My girlfriend likes to eat well as much as I do. When I said changing diet I meant to one where the protein levels are dramatically increased.Keep to the 'norm'; six small, balanced meals with maybe a quality shake & banana post workout and plenty of rest.
When you say a quality shake, are you referring to protein?
Is your training suitable for actual hypertrophy or are you just doing a set routine? Have you plateaued or are you still improving?
Its not as simple as just going to the gym a couple of times a week and then eating a bit more and hope you get bigger you need to break your muscles down in order to require the protein in first place.
As was said above if you just increase your protein intake it doesn't automatically turn into muscle! If you eat loads but don't require it you will put on weight but not necessarily muscle - I'd concentrate on your training first and wait till you get stuck and then look at additional food in your diet.
I know its very easy to say that but for example some good targets to aim for in terms of weights are probably 1.5x Bodyweight for Bench press, 2x BW for squat (though prob not a full squat) and 1xBW for Military press. They are more than achievable just through regular and correct training. Its only after those levels I would start looking at additional protein above a normal healthy diet.
Its not as simple as just going to the gym a couple of times a week and then eating a bit more and hope you get bigger you need to break your muscles down in order to require the protein in first place.
As was said above if you just increase your protein intake it doesn't automatically turn into muscle! If you eat loads but don't require it you will put on weight but not necessarily muscle - I'd concentrate on your training first and wait till you get stuck and then look at additional food in your diet.
I know its very easy to say that but for example some good targets to aim for in terms of weights are probably 1.5x Bodyweight for Bench press, 2x BW for squat (though prob not a full squat) and 1xBW for Military press. They are more than achievable just through regular and correct training. Its only after those levels I would start looking at additional protein above a normal healthy diet.
bales said:
I know its very easy to say that but for example some good targets to aim for in terms of weights are probably 1.5x Bodyweight for Bench press, 2x BW for squat (though prob not a full squat) and 1xBW for Military press. They are more than achievable just through regular and correct training. Its only after those levels I would start looking at additional protein above a normal healthy diet.
Crikey! Not disputing it but those ratios are pretty high for me - thinking about it, I assume it's a 1RM you're talking about though so maybe not so high.
LordGrover said:
bales said:
I know its very easy to say that but for example some good targets to aim for in terms of weights are probably 1.5x Bodyweight for Bench press, 2x BW for squat (though prob not a full squat) and 1xBW for Military press. They are more than achievable just through regular and correct training. Its only after those levels I would start looking at additional protein above a normal healthy diet.
Crikey! Not disputing it but those ratios are pretty high for me - thinking about it, I assume it's a 1RM you're talking about though so maybe not so high.
Strangely the military press is the hardest I do that regularly and I still can't quite get my BW and I only weigh 73kg!
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