Difficulty getting pregnant....

[harry010]

Coco H said:

good luck with it all.

(osrry to bring this up but does anyone know how long it takes you to feel normal after loosing a pregnancy. I am 6 weeks on and I still physically and mentally poo (for want of a better term). It's definately lost. But no more chances of having another baby for me which is why I probably feel so darn pathetic)

I am in the very same boat... I'm doing ok, I think, and being able to smile, laugh, go out as normal, but at quiet times there is a palpable emptiness - PM me if you want to vent to someone who knows exactly where you are

[1598]

Legend83 said:

So it finally reared it's ugly head today, 7 days late.

Good news is the doc is willing to get us both checked out - feels like we are taking a step forward rather than treading water.

Much for positive for us both today, bring on the next battle, so to speak...

Night all and thanks for all your kindness again.

Is your wife slightly overweight and if so does she carry it around her middle and have slimmer arms & legs?

I ask this because if she is not regular and has weight issues she might have Polycystic Ovary Syndrome.

If she does then pregnancy is hard but not impossible to achieve. miscarriage is frequent too but taking metformin three times a day and up to the 12 week mark can help you get pregnant and minimise miscarriage.

[Legend83]

1598 said:

Legend83 said:

So it finally reared it's ugly head today, 7 days late.

Good news is the doc is willing to get us both checked out - feels like we are taking a step forward rather than treading water.

Much for positive for us both today, bring on the next battle, so to speak...

Night all and thanks for all your kindness again.

Is your wife slightly overweight and if so does she carry it around her middle and have slimmer arms & legs?

I ask this because if she is not regular and has weight issues she might have Polycystic Ovary Syndrome.

If she does then pregnancy is hard but not impossible to achieve. miscarriage is frequent too but taking metformin three times a day and up to the 12 week mark can help you get pregnant and minimise miscarriage.

No, she is 5ft4 and 8st so slim build.

Results of her blood tests in on Monday so will find out if there is any issue then.

ETA - if an ovulation test is positive is that categorical evidence that she is releasing eggs? Or does it just show a spurt in a specific hormone?

[1598]

Legend83 said:

No, she is 5ft4 and 8st so slim build.

PCOS is still possible although it is largely assocated with overweight people as PCOS causes Insulin issues and the body stores fat rather than burning it instead, hence weight problems.

Legend83 said:

ETA - if an ovulation test is positive is that categorical evidence that she is releasing eggs? Or does it just show a spurt in a specific hormone?

Unfortunately from what I gathered it does just look for a hormone, but then I am not a Dr so do not take this as 100% correct.

[Coco H]

1598 said:

Legend83 said:

No, she is 5ft4 and 8st so slim build.

PCOS is still possible although it is largely assocated with overweight people as PCOS causes Insulin issues and the body stores fat rather than burning it instead, hence weight problems.

Legend83 said:

ETA - if an ovulation test is positive is that categorical evidence that she is releasing eggs? Or does it just show a spurt in a specific hormone?

Unfortunately from what I gathered it does just look for a hormone, but then I am not a Dr so do not take this as 100% correct.

It does show a specific hormone LH is being released in a surge. You can release the hormone in a surge as your body gears up to ovulate but then not actually go on and ovulate. You may then have another LH surge and actually ovulate. The doctors do a test a day 21 (or it should be 7 days post ovulation) to confirm a rise in another hormone, progesterone, I think, which shows you have ovulated. Sometimes the tests show you have not ovulated but that can simply be that the tests are mis-timed. If you ovulate on day 18 , then test should be 7 days later - ie day 25 - not all women ovulate on day 14 and have perfect 28 day cycles.
I have pcos (apparently) as well as endo. yet I am a-typical, I do not carry any weight around the middle (well not unitl I had three children) but I am clearly a pear not an apple! I also do not have some of the other issues associated with it and three scans never found a single cyst on my ovaries however you can apparently still have pcos if as in my case my cycles are slightly irregular and can be up to 5-6 weeks long.
Good luck. It's all a bit of a mystery to me still!

[bluto]

I produce plenty of LCG so the doctors thought i was ovulating fine. Then they had a look inside and saw my tubes are twisted and so eggs cant get through. The test is mainly there to show that she isnt post-menopausal and should still have eggs in her ovaries. So long as she has those, there is a way around the other stuff. Hope it all goes well xx

[Legend83]

Sucky.

Blood tests back and hormone level was at 22, not 30 where it should be. This means that the wife is not ovulating

So, to the next battle.

Trying to look at it as a marathon not a sprint, but it is a blow.

Get my test in October, then a course of Clomid I would imagine.

Hard thing is not knowing a reason for it. No PCOS detected. Doc just said "well some people just don't ovulate". Great.

L83

[Engineer1]

Is it possible that with an irregular cycle that ovulation isn't ocuring at the expected time meaning the results will be out compared to "normal"?
Good luck.

[bluto]

Having a low BMI will also stop you ovulating. Clomid will sort that out easy enough, usually you get 3 cycles of it at a lower level and they keep checking the hormone levels on day 21. After that you will get another 3 months at double the dose if nothing has happened yet. Then its back to doctors and hospitals etc. If it is a simple case of her not ovulating, the Clomid works quickly, i have 3 friends who all fell pregnant on it from the first month. Hope thats the case for you xx

P.S she may get horrid sweats and other symptoms of menopausa from the Clomid. Just ride it out, its a prequel to how pregnancy will make her feel!

[Coco H]

Engineer1 said:

Is it possible that with an irregular cycle that ovulation isn't ocuring at the expected time meaning the results will be out compared to "normal"?
Good luck.

Exactly. I was told by the GP I didn't ovulate as hormone wasn't at required level on right day. I saw a specialist who is a bit of a known miracle worker with this sort of thing and he said anyone who doesn't ovulate regularly has pcos. Baby one was conceived on month one of clomid.
The gp reassured me afterwards I couldn't get pregnant naturally as I didn't ovulate. Rather odd considering nos 2 and 3 happened without anything as a total surprise

[oobster]

L83, I had a big long post typed in which aimed to perhaps give you some sort of boost by describing our experience with fertility issues that all worked out ok in the end but this thread isn't about me so i'd just like to take this opportunity to wish you and your partner all the best and I hope that you are blessed with a little bundle of joy very soon.

[Legend83]

Thanks everyone.

We have decided that we need something to aim for and rather than wait on the NHS, we are organising a private consultation with a recommended fertility specialist.

Hopefully, a bit of extra cost will speed the process of getting H on the clomid.

Still waiting to have my test though - cutbacks mean I have to book an appointment now rather than just drop off a sample.

I am upbeat about this plan, but H is still finding the revelations hard to swallow - I guess it's not so hard for me as it's not my body.

I need to get her in a positive frame of mind, but she has been fighting things all her life and she just looks tired of it all.

[Mr Freefall]

Legend83 said:

Sucky.

Blood tests back and hormone level was at 22, not 30 where it should be. This means that the wife is not ovulating

So, to the next battle.

Trying to look at it as a marathon not a sprint, but it is a blow.

Get my test in October, then a course of Clomid I would imagine.

Hard thing is not knowing a reason for it. No PCOS detected. Doc just said "well some people just don't ovulate". Great.

L83

Legend83

Ask about using Clomid & Metphormin (spl) together, worked for us.

Mr F

[Engineer1]

Well the Mrs has had her day 21 bloods taken today so time to wait for the results.

[Legend83]

Had our private consultation yesterday.

Doctor was a star - put us at instant ease, talked us through a plan of action and scanned my wife there and then.

Looks like she might have one Multi-cystic ovary and one Poly-cystic ovary. Not sure what this means quite yet, but the consultant told us he was not worried and we should look upon the appointment with relief not anxiety.

So, still not really got any answers but a welcome psychological boost knowing we are in the most skilled hands.

I had never attended a private consulation before - if I could afford it, it's where I would go every time! Fantastic service.

[Engineer1]

Still waiting for the results of my wife's tests.

[h0b0]

8 Weeks after D&C and still registering as pregnant. Very slow process........

[leeb]

Its crazy how so many of us are going through the same pain and stress with all this, but yet it's something people feel so alone over. This place is pretty bloody good at letting stuff out.

Out of interest, do any of you talk to friends or family about this stuff, or is it between the two of you only? Reason I ask, is that I am quite open about it (to a point) with friends/family I trust. The mrs is the same, but a friend of ours who is going through IVF she won't even talk to us about it, knowing we are in the same boat. She just bottles it all up, none of her friends know and she just explodes every now and again at home. We can't work out why she won't speak about it and get it all out. It's not nice to see, knowing how talking about it seems to help us.

However, hasn't everyone got a friend who knows someone who had the same, was told they would never have kids, stopped trying and didn't worry about it anymore, then got pregnant :-) really??? It's funny how people try to say the right things.

Edited by leeb on Saturday 9th October 07:52

[dave_s13]

Definately better to talk about it if you can but everyone is wired up differently i suppose.

Our recent frozen embryo transfer worked.

But then she lost it yesterday after 6 and a bit weeks. Gutted. That's it for us now. 3 goes is enough to test anyones sanity, at least we had one successful attempt that resulted in a gorgeous little girl which is more than some people get.

We are seriously thinking about adoption now, new thread for that one though.

Oh and i hate the overused anecdote about the couple who tried for years, started ivf then fell on just after. No they didn't! Fvck off! :-)

[leeb]

Ah bloody hell, sorry to hear that Dave. It seems that we have gone through at similar times based on posts here, we started attempt 4 last night with the first injection. This is the last funded one, so I'm going to be watching your other thread with interest.

If we can offer a home to someone who would previously have had no chance, then that can only be positive. As you say, that's another thread.