What training are you doing/have done today?
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Trained at my friends new gym today, The Powerhouse near Bingley/Bradford.
DH Deadlift singles. 7 sets. had 205kg on but had to reduce it to 200kg!. Felt so heavy today, i think his weights are super heavy. Either that or the fact it's freezing in his gym and I was very cold!
Bent over rows up to 140kg for 3.
Chins using rings. 3 x 10.
DH Deadlift singles. 7 sets. had 205kg on but had to reduce it to 200kg!. Felt so heavy today, i think his weights are super heavy. Either that or the fact it's freezing in his gym and I was very cold!
Bent over rows up to 140kg for 3.
Chins using rings. 3 x 10.
Edited by balders118 on Saturday 13th October 20:35
balders118 said:
It's fun to take the piss out of crossfiters though. They're all so hung up on it! I'm on the fence with cross fit. I like the idea, and some of the training is good but I don't like the "our way is the ONLY way" mentality and the lack of techkers that seems to be associated with it.
A collegue of mine is a PT and a crossfitter.
Just see this.A collegue of mine is a PT and a crossfitter.
The problem with cross fit is there no research to it, plenty on carcadian rhythms, squat, dead lift, nordic hamstring curls, plyometrics, HIIT and the list goes on.
But so what its just training.
I definitely don't take the piss out of it as really enjoy the competitions and training (its a good lung bleeder) but I know there is no research behind it.
You should enter a competition and just enjoy it, plus I bet your overhead squat has good form (I'm jealous!!)
I was in Fitness First in Rochdale one Friday a few years ago and flyers were up for World Gym Challenge for an event on Saturday, I just turnt up the next day, to me it was an extra session but got to race someone, a no brainer really.
The final nail for me if I was in your shoes would be if my colleague was a cross fitter, as yours is I'd have to try and beat him or at least race him.
Edited by 996 sps on Sunday 14th October 20:46
balders118 said:
ViperPict said:
No because runners will eat much less than someone who has managed to build an appreciable amount of muscle. A lot of runners are light in bodyweight but they are not all that lean with little muscle definition. Cardio is just not good at burning fat, for the reasons I stated before. The physiology of fat burning is a lot more complicated than energy used. You will lose WEIGHT doing cardio but little fat. I also have empirical evidence of this from 20+ years of dieting/ bulking - adding in three 45 minute sessions of 60-70% max heart rate cardio before breakfast (i.e., with minimnal glycogen stores to be best allow fat utilisation for energy) over 10 weeks resulted in no statistically significant difference in fat loss compared to the same length period doing no cardio but the same weights and diet regime (but I lost some lean tissue doing the cardio!).
And to say that you will burn more energy with cardio or weights weights depends on a multitide of factors (time training, resting regime, rep range, weight used, exercises executed). For example, you use a prodigeous amount of energy doing a 20-rep squat routine that will last only a couple of minutes. Say you're using 180kg and the vertical range the weight moves is 1m - that is a LOT of 'work' done (in the physics meaning of the word, i.e., W = F.d).
One persons training over 20 years does not make any kind of proof. Especially without and control etc.And to say that you will burn more energy with cardio or weights weights depends on a multitide of factors (time training, resting regime, rep range, weight used, exercises executed). For example, you use a prodigeous amount of energy doing a 20-rep squat routine that will last only a couple of minutes. Say you're using 180kg and the vertical range the weight moves is 1m - that is a LOT of 'work' done (in the physics meaning of the word, i.e., W = F.d).
We're not going to agree, so I won't carry on
Just do what works for you and we can agree to disagree!
Pain day! Very gruelling and at times sheer nasty, and needed to dig very deep - and play the mind games, guilt trips and self loathing! - to get through some bits...
... which will seem very ridiculous when I 'fess up and admit I only used a 5kg plate!
Seated single arm press - 200 reps
Single arm lateral raises - 150 reps per side, standing; 55 non stop then batches to target (plate held out from rim so a bit of added 'weight' from the leverage, honest!)
Standing single arm front raises - 50 reps per side, non-stop,
Must sound daft to say this is hard and hurts but the press was agonising - if anyone wants an experiment have a go, it's not like normal workout. I feel pathetic that I can't even, after all these years, hit the number in one go either, getting 77 (right side, higher) on the 1st batch of non-stop presses, then the rest in small bursts of 26 down to around 5 or 6, with between 3 and 15 second pauses but making sure the last 10 reps were non stop, which was hard enough.
Shoulders so pumped too, and seem bigger still than last week.
... which will seem very ridiculous when I 'fess up and admit I only used a 5kg plate!
Seated single arm press - 200 reps
Single arm lateral raises - 150 reps per side, standing; 55 non stop then batches to target (plate held out from rim so a bit of added 'weight' from the leverage, honest!)
Standing single arm front raises - 50 reps per side, non-stop,
Must sound daft to say this is hard and hurts but the press was agonising - if anyone wants an experiment have a go, it's not like normal workout. I feel pathetic that I can't even, after all these years, hit the number in one go either, getting 77 (right side, higher) on the 1st batch of non-stop presses, then the rest in small bursts of 26 down to around 5 or 6, with between 3 and 15 second pauses but making sure the last 10 reps were non stop, which was hard enough.
Shoulders so pumped too, and seem bigger still than last week.
Edited by Lost_BMW on Monday 15th October 21:23
Lost_BMW said:
Pain day! Very gruelling and at times sheer nasty, and needed to dig very deep - and play the mind games, guilt trips and self loathing! - to get through some bits...
... which will seem very ridiculous when I 'fess up and admit I only used a 5kg plate!
Seated single arm press - 200 reps
Single arm lateral raises - 150 reps per side, standing; 55 non stop then batches to target (plate held out from rim so a bit of added 'weight' from the leverage, honest!)
Standing single arm front raises - 50 reps per side, non-stop,
Must sound daft to say this is hard and hurts but the press was agonising - if anyone wants an experiment have a go, it's not like normal workout. I feel pathetic that I can't even, after all these years, hit the number in one go either, getting 77 (right side, higher) on the 1st batch of non-stop presses, then the rest in small bursts of 26 down with between 3 and 15 second pauses but making sure the last 10 reps were non stop, which was hard enough.
Shoulders so pumped too, and seem bigger still than last week.
It's interesting to see your experiences. Out of interest, can you list your 1RMs for each exercise and how many reps of 5kg you can do?... which will seem very ridiculous when I 'fess up and admit I only used a 5kg plate!
Seated single arm press - 200 reps
Single arm lateral raises - 150 reps per side, standing; 55 non stop then batches to target (plate held out from rim so a bit of added 'weight' from the leverage, honest!)
Standing single arm front raises - 50 reps per side, non-stop,
Must sound daft to say this is hard and hurts but the press was agonising - if anyone wants an experiment have a go, it's not like normal workout. I feel pathetic that I can't even, after all these years, hit the number in one go either, getting 77 (right side, higher) on the 1st batch of non-stop presses, then the rest in small bursts of 26 down with between 3 and 15 second pauses but making sure the last 10 reps were non stop, which was hard enough.
Shoulders so pumped too, and seem bigger still than last week.
Hoofy said:
It's interesting to see your experiences. Out of interest, can you list your 1RMs for each exercise and how many reps of 5kg you can do?
5kg lifts pretty much as current and logged - with a gun at my head maybe 80+ non stop on steep incline pres and 60+ on laterals, but not after the presses - dead by then! Front raises, I'd guess at 60 to 70 if fresh.One rep max is a while back as I haven't done much heavy stuff recently but seated front/shoulder press was 272lb (bar), dumbbell never did 1 rep but 110lb per side for around 8. Way down now, maybe 80lb?
Haven't pressed much except on a 'Grappler' bar (same idea as the Renegade)which gives some benefit/weight reduction from the leverage but can do 133lb a side standing for around 6 to 8 reps.
Lateral raises - 70lb, probably a bit sloppy but can still do 50lb+ in reasonable form
Never done singles or low rep front raises (too risky?) but never more than around 50lb.
'Best' lift was bent over rear laterals which I could do 80 - 85lb, probably around 70ish now?
I wish I were as strong as I could be and need to start doing more but if push came to shove and I had to choose one way only I'd go high rep.
Edited by Lost_BMW on Thursday 18th October 21:15
Lost_BMW said:
I wish I were as strong as I could be and need to start doing more but if push came to shove and I had to choose one way only I'd go high rep.
Interesting. So you're pretty strong (or were when you were lifting heavy) and are experiencing positive results from 5kg lifts?Re planks, well, I have concluded they are a waste of time:
On September 4, 2012, I stopped all ab work that was purely focusing on abs (ie continued with deads, bench, pull ups etc which activate the abs to some degree) and replaced all focused ab work with renegade rows (which seems to me to be tougher than basic planks). I think my abdominal area looks mildly smaller but I can impersonate a foot stool for longer. Gonna go back to doing Front lever raises and Toe-to-bar leg raises.
WRT core strength rather than just aesthetics, I have not noticed any improvement.
On September 4, 2012, I stopped all ab work that was purely focusing on abs (ie continued with deads, bench, pull ups etc which activate the abs to some degree) and replaced all focused ab work with renegade rows (which seems to me to be tougher than basic planks). I think my abdominal area looks mildly smaller but I can impersonate a foot stool for longer. Gonna go back to doing Front lever raises and Toe-to-bar leg raises.
WRT core strength rather than just aesthetics, I have not noticed any improvement.
Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 16th October 00:36
Halb said:
Did the 300 workout. I did intend to do my heavy bag thing, but just didn't have the pep. Rather short day for me in there then.
25 pull-ups - 3.57
50 60kg deadlifts - 7.14
50 press-ups - 9.33
50 24inch boxjumps - 17.20
50 floor wipers - 26.50
50 16kg KB clean and press - 30.10
25 chin-ups - 35.58
I had my first attempt at this today, hardwork took me 48mins, 35 mins is impressive! 25 pull-ups - 3.57
50 60kg deadlifts - 7.14
50 press-ups - 9.33
50 24inch boxjumps - 17.20
50 floor wipers - 26.50
50 16kg KB clean and press - 30.10
25 chin-ups - 35.58
Gym workout Monday, first workout in the new (old) gym. Moved across the industrial park to new premises - spent most of my time trying to work out where everything was. Other than it is going to be a very nice gym once everything is sorted. Very kind lighting too!
Yesterday, one hour 15 hilly bike ride and tonight league football.
Yesterday, one hour 15 hilly bike ride and tonight league football.
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