New Evora Model? Evora S Super Sport

New Evora Model? Evora S Super Sport

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Undirection

467 posts

121 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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naboo said:
FRO911 said:
Interesting, none of the press reports I've read say this is limited to just the engineering side. If that were the case wouldn't they say so?
I've not read that either, just that they got rid of 300 people, how many did they have in engineering to begin with?
About that, its was the engineering team mostly. Some transferred and the rest are going but this is only because this side of the business has dwindled to the point that paying 300 staff just isn't going to remain economic.

FRO911

53 posts

131 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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I don't know what the numbers were but I'm pretty sure redundancies were also made on the car production side. i think the cost of production on the Evora is too high for Lotus to sell it at a competetive price

Toaster

2,939 posts

193 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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FRO911 said:
I don't know what the numbers were but I'm pretty sure redundancies were also made on the car production side. i think the cost of production on the Evora is too high for Lotus to sell it at a competetive price
You should read what the new boss said

“When I arrived six months ago we had 1200 people making 1200 cars a year,” says Gales. “We could not have survived like that. Now we are 900 people, and this year we will make around 2000 cars. Next year the figure should be 3000 cars, then 3000 for several more years. This will change the equation completely.”

FRO911

53 posts

131 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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Well that confirms what I thought, this CEO looks like he's just right man for the job. Last time a did a factory tour (in the summer)the production line was hardly a hive of intense activity. Even to the layman there looked to be too much standing around & chatting going on!

Jellinek

274 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th January 2015
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I would be interested to know how many Owners made their buying decision based on the Evoras +2 configuration. It seems to me that Lotus have compromised the entire car, when comparing it against the Cayman, just for the sake of those seats.
Given that Porsche sell around 25k Cayman/Boxster models annually, it would seem prudent for the new CEO to address the 2-seater market, rather than titivating a product for what appears to be a niche segment in a niche market.
A shorter wheelbase variant with significantly reduced mass and an improved weight distribution with a convertible option must surely be a priority?

LotusOmega375D

7,607 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th January 2015
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What you're wishing for is already available: the Exige S Roadster.

FWIW I for one only bought an Evora because of the 2+2 seating option. Otherwise I would have looked elsewhere.

Boogs

406 posts

143 months

Thursday 8th January 2015
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Same here, very important feature, if it were a +0 I'd hardly ever be able to use it.

I think the second hand market answers this question. +0 cars hang around on the market for much longer than +2s. IMHO, they should make them all +2, you lose nothing but gain a lot.


C43

666 posts

198 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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I had to have the +2 to make it usable for my children.

I also suspect that the slight rearwards CofG brought about by the engine going rearwards has sharpened up turn in and kept the car nice and neutral.

C43

Lazydonkey

177 posts

223 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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Thirded.

Didn't consider a caymen as it wouldn't be usable enough for me when my kid arrives.

CTE

1,488 posts

240 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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I have a 2+0 and as we do not have kids, the rears seats are completely pointless. With or without seats though, the rear space is very handy for storage and is great for bags etc on long road trips. For me the lack of the rear seats made the car a bit cheaper...which will also affect the resale a bit.
You can do the motorways in comfort, and then rag up and down mountains with the very best of them.
Apart from a better interior and fit and finish, I do not know what a Cayman has to offer that is better when in comes to actually driving...which is surely the point of these cars?

AlistairF

49 posts

156 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I like the look of the +2 seats but was offered a +0 Evora S which I bought and it is just fab. The space is really useful for fast touring, the net prevents things flying around. In many ways its more practical. Interestingly, my dealer said you can't convert a +0 to a +2 easily because the seat belt mountings are not there.

AlistairF

49 posts

156 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I like the look of the +2 seats but was offered a +0 Evora S which I bought and it is just fab. The space is really useful for fast touring, the net prevents things flying around. In many ways its more practical. Interestingly, my dealer said you can't convert a +0 to a +2 easily because the seat belt mountings are not there.

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

205 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I got the +2 as effectively the seats can be used as either seats (cutting legs off) or more likely as parcel shelves - which is what I used them for.

Toaster

2,939 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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I have a 2+0 the cat is quite comfy on the parcel shelf smile