New 400hp Evora

[CTE]

I want great ride/handling, which the Evora excels at already...and more power..can`t have enough for my tastes, but have to agree that it is alaw of diminishing returns...my Evora easily keeps up with all sorts of more exotic/powerful and expensive machinery as it is.

[Gravel]

Sumsion said:

You make a good point , mine is only from my own perspective, having owned n/a and s IPS , used n/a IPS. As an aside the IPS is the icing on the cake. However I agree buyers look at the spec first and if it does not meet their aspirations then no test drive and then no sale for Lotus. Only the converted know the benefits!

Even in the UK there is a IMO a degree of car park willy-waving. I'd guarantee that the first questions about any new car that turned up at my work would be, how much did you pay, what's the 0-60 and how many BHP, in some order. Now obviously it's daft to choose your car on the basis of top-trumps stats, but even I suffer from a little power-to-weight anxiety - I don't want to go backwards when spending more on a car...

[kbf1981]

So does everyone recon we'll keep the same engine as now but with some extra mods? Or will we have something more significant? Tbh in 4 months I've driven 700 miles in my Exige V6 as I can't put my son in there so hard to fit into my lifestyle. The new Evora... if it's actually competitive with the Exige V6 (big ask), would appeal to me. I could use it more often and put a baby seat in the back.

[RedTrident]

At the very least you'll be able to get in and out easier.

The new Exige is a weapon though. 60mph well under 4 seconds and 100mph under 8 seconds? The current Evora S gets to 60 on a good day 1/2 second slower and another 2 1/2 to 100mph. Handling is sublime though.

New Evora is bound to improve on those times but will probably be a shade slower than an Exige I think. I'm sure it'll hit the 'willy waving' 4 seconds to 60 and under 10 to 100mph. What I'm mainly holding out for is a better interior.Maybe the gearbox will also improve.

I nearly bought the S SR. I'm holding out to see what the new one looks like before I buy one. At the very least the new version will knock a bit more off the current version prices.

[kambites]

kbf1981 said:

So does everyone recon we'll keep the same engine as now but with some extra mods? Or will we have something more significant? Tbh in 4 months I've driven 700 miles in my Exige V6 as I can't put my son in there so hard to fit into my lifestyle. The new Evora... if it's actually competitive with the Exige V6 (big ask), would appeal to me. I could use it more often and put a baby seat in the back.

Why can't you put your son in the Exige? No way to turn off the passenger airbag?

[Lazydonkey]

kbf1981 said:

So does everyone recon we'll keep the same engine as now but with some extra mods? Or will we have something more significant? Tbh in 4 months I've driven 700 miles in my Exige V6 as I can't put my son in there so hard to fit into my lifestyle. The new Evora... if it's actually competitive with the Exige V6 (big ask), would appeal to me. I could use it more often and put a baby seat in the back.

It's the same block

[kbf1981]

kambites said:

kbf1981 said:

So does everyone recon we'll keep the same engine as now but with some extra mods? Or will we have something more significant? Tbh in 4 months I've driven 700 miles in my Exige V6 as I can't put my son in there so hard to fit into my lifestyle. The new Evora... if it's actually competitive with the Exige V6 (big ask), would appeal to me. I could use it more often and put a baby seat in the back.

Why can't you put your son in the Exige? No way to turn off the passenger airbag?

Nope. Can you put a child seat in a Cup? Or are they 4 point harnesses only?

[kambites]

Well that's bloody stupid. I thought you had to be able to disable the passenger airbag for EU type approval?

[kbf1981]

kambites said:

Well that's bloody stupid. I thought you had to be able to disable the passenger airbag for EU type approval?

No key to do it and Oakmere says no. I knew about it before buying the car but now I've got it, I'm finding little chance to get out in it.

I love the car, it's fantastic. I'd also just like to be able to take him out in it too as I think he'd like it, and I'd end up being able to drive it more often.

[EuropaSman]

Car magazine has published spy shots of an Evora, reckoning it's the 2015 model 400hp Evora S, but to me doesn't look like it's the complete version of the 400hp Evora as,whilst the photos show a modified front bumper, the rear one looks unchanged; I thought both front and rear were going to be changed. There also seems to be some additional wrap around the CHMSL - could this be to do with the new supercharger intercooler (exhaust aperture maybe)?

I feel that the journalist is factually inaccurate with the statement about the photos showing the sill alterations (lowered sills) because we know, as Evora owners, you can't see the top of it with the door closed! and if they were referring to width of the sill, then I don't think you can tell that either. Anyway I think that the doors would have to be altered to accommodate any height changes to the sills, i.e. moving the bottom of the door panel to below "waistline" cut out or restyle the "waistline" altogether. What's more likely is that the "gusset" part of the sill next to the door post will be altered.

Here's the link: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Searc...

Edited by EuropaSman on Tuesday 10th February 23:31

[Gravel]

One of the things that was mentioned in the article about re-engineering the Evora was that as well as a weight saving, they'd also managed about a 10% component cost-saving...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/simplif...

Does anyone think they're going to surprise us with a price drop for the facelifted cars? The Sports Racers were a bit cheaper than fully kitting out a base car so it wouldn't be a first, and the competition has stepped up the game a bit with the Cayman GT-4, which (without the trillion options you'd need) is roughly in the same price band.

[andy_s]

Wow. Looks sharp.

[blueg33]

Its been unveiled

Evora 400

Faster, lighter, easier to get in and out of, sharper front, more downforce, even better handling etc

Looks great, I am not sure about the interior (dash on passenger side and over large air vents) but overall - yes please

Edited by blueg33 on Wednesday 18th February 08:03

[andy_s]

"The Lotus Evora 400 in more detail:

Supercar Performance

Fastest production Lotus ever, laps Hethel SIX seconds faster than previous model
Aerodynamic downforce of 32 kg at 150 mph (242 km/h)
Engine power has been increased from that of the Evora S; a respected 345 hp (350 PS; 257.3 kW) to 400 hp (406 PS; 298.3 kW) at 7,000rpm. The supercharger fitment ensures strong bottom-end torque and the figure has also been increased to 302 lbs ft (410 Nm) achieved between 3,500 to 6,500 rpm. This translates into even more strident acceleration for a 0-60 mph time of just 4.1 seconds (0-100 kph in 4.2 seconds).

Traction slip thresholds (‘Drive‘, ‘Sport’ and ‘Race’ settings) can be altered via a driver-selectable switch, which allows the driver enhanced vehicle control before intervention is required. Both ‘Sport’ and ‘Race’ settings increase throttle responsiveness.

Its top speed of 186 mph (300 km/h) propels the Evora 400 to the upper segment of supercar performance expectations. The benchmark lap time at the Lotus Test Track at Hethel, has been slashed by a phenomenal SIX seconds due to higher engine power, revised spring and damper settings, a Limited Slip Differential (LSD) and a downforce figure of 32 kg (70 lbs) at 150 mph (242 km/h). This downforce equates to 12 kg, 26 lbs front; 20 kg, 44 lbs rear, achieved by the Evora 400’s flat-floor, lightweight composite rear diffuser, three-element rear wing and airflow management strategy.

Despite the luxury fittings and equipment expected of a modern supercar, Lotus remains true to its lightweight, dynamic remit and the new Evora 400 tips the scales (unladen) at just 1,415 kgs (3,119 lbs; auto: 1,419 kg, 3,128 lbs), which amounts to a reduction of 22 kg, or 48 lbs (automatic option: 23 kg / 50lbs) from the outgoing Evora model."

[RedTrident]

Some more details here. It'll out perform the new hyped cayman gt4. I'm fairly confident of that.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-gene...

[CTE]

By some way I`d have thought...I am pretty sure the current S would, especially in the real world. Still they are all mega fast and too quick for the real world so a bit academic really...unless you are on a quiet mountain pass or an Autobahn of course.

Love it all apart from the rear end...more work required there I think. Like the LSD lots. Relatively simple alterations to gain the extra power aswell.

[PorscheGT4]

RedTrident said:

Some more details here. It'll out perform the new hyped cayman gt4. I'm fairly confident of that.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-gene...

less torque even though it's SC and the GT4 is NA, more weight, less downforce and smaller brakes, so I doubt it.

Evora power to weight 282 that's if it has 400bhp ! don't know a Lotus yet which has made it's advertised BHp.
GT4 power to weight 287 and we all know it has more than 385BHp Porsche always make more, the guy who designed it says it has more.

then out the bends the GT4 has more torque and down force and is 75kg lighter and a est ring time of 7.40, even the Exige S is 7.53 !

How confident are you again ?

Nice car though if still a little to expensive imo, only posting a few stats ;-)

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Wednesday 18th February 10:32

[kbf1981]

PorscheGT4 said:

RedTrident said:

Some more details here. It'll out perform the new hyped cayman gt4. I'm fairly confident of that.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-gene...

less torque even though it's SC and the GT4 is NA, more weight, less downforce and smaller brakes, so I doubt it.

Evora power to weight 282 that's if it has 400bhp ! don't know a Lotus yet which has made it's advertised BHp.
GT4 power to weight 287 and we all know it has more than 385BHp Porsche always make more, the guy who designed it says it has more.

then out the bends the GT4 has more torque and down force and is 75kg lighter and a est ring time of 7.40, even the Exige S is 7.53 !

How confident are you again ?

Nice car though if still a little to expensive imo, only posting a few stats ;-)

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Wednesday 18th February 10:32

Porsche design their cars for the ring. Give any 2 experienced drivers an Exige V6 and a Cayman GT4 on a typical track (not Lotus's home track OR Porsche's home track where both cars will have been developed), and an Exige V6 would walk a Cayman. This is said having driven & owned many Porsches (and liking them!) and tbh all sorts of cars over the last few years and presently owning a V6. The V6 is fast on country roads even compared to a 458 from experience.

The new Evora looks nice. I recon it'll sell well, like the V6 is doing.

Anyone know the V6 time (cup and standard) vs new Evora 400?

[blueg33]

PorscheGT4 said:

less torque even though it's SC and the GT4 is NA, more weight, less downforce and smaller brakes, so I doubt it.

Evora power to weight 282 that's if it has 400bhp ! don't know a Lotus yet which has made it's advertised BHp.
GT4 power to weight 287 and we all know it has more than 385BHp Porsche always make more, the guy who designed it says it has more.

then out the bends the GT4 has more torque and down force and is 75kg lighter and a est ring time of 7.40, even the Exige S is 7.53 !

How confident are you again ?

Nice car though if still a little to expensive imo, only posting a few stats ;-)

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Wednesday 18th February 10:32

My n/a Evora has published bhp at 276, on a dynojet rolling road it shows 282bhp, standard car apart from tubular exhaust. So there is one Lotus that makes its advertised power, I have played chase with a Cayman S driving both cars and swapping drivers. The Evora is quicker than the Cayman S everywhere except long straights

[s99ane]

kbf1981 said:

No key to do it and Oakmere says no. I knew about it before buying the car but now I've got it, I'm finding little chance to get out in it.

I love the car, it's fantastic. I'd also just like to be able to take him out in it too as I think he'd like it, and I'd end up being able to drive it more often.

Plenty of places can retro fit a simple switch to deactivate the airbag. Not expensive or difficult either.

GT Cars in Warrington can do it for you.