New 400hp Evora
Discussion
RedTrident said:
When are the first road tests due?
I saw my first Evora on the road last week, it looked ok, didn't sound like anything interesting though. Fingers crossed this new car sells well.
Mine has a tubular exhaust, my family can hear the car as it approaches the village.....I saw my first Evora on the road last week, it looked ok, didn't sound like anything interesting though. Fingers crossed this new car sells well.
LHD Evora 400 on display at MotorExpo Canary Wharf.
Interior quality is much much improved. The leather and stitching is at least as good as Porsche, if not better.
Plus no more smell of glue.
The pedals (car is auto) are very offset to the right.
Door sills are much narrower and as a result much easier to get in and out.
Seats are fantastically supportive.
Looks much better in metal too, if a bit too bling compared to original Evora.
Interior quality is much much improved. The leather and stitching is at least as good as Porsche, if not better.
Plus no more smell of glue.
The pedals (car is auto) are very offset to the right.
Door sills are much narrower and as a result much easier to get in and out.
Seats are fantastically supportive.
Looks much better in metal too, if a bit too bling compared to original Evora.
I did a it of fantasy car shopping on Saturday and got to have a passenger ride in a 2005 GT40, and a good test drive of a 458 spyder.
I have to say in summary, that whilst the pace of these two cars was ballistic when floored, in almost every other respect regarding the driving experience, the Evora was at least as good, and a load more fun. I think all the road testers are loosing sight of what makes a good drivers car. The current crop are technically fantastic, but can only achieve their performance levels with the aid of quite a lot of electronics, which go quite a long way to destroy the drivers experience.
Obviously the GT40 was not spoiled by electronics, but it was left hand drive, and just felt too big, although I would think you could adjust to that quite easily. It was also £275K!!!
I just hope Lotus have some success with the new car, but for me they could take it up several levels with some proper power. They could then charge a premium and make it a profitable exercise!
I have to say in summary, that whilst the pace of these two cars was ballistic when floored, in almost every other respect regarding the driving experience, the Evora was at least as good, and a load more fun. I think all the road testers are loosing sight of what makes a good drivers car. The current crop are technically fantastic, but can only achieve their performance levels with the aid of quite a lot of electronics, which go quite a long way to destroy the drivers experience.
Obviously the GT40 was not spoiled by electronics, but it was left hand drive, and just felt too big, although I would think you could adjust to that quite easily. It was also £275K!!!
I just hope Lotus have some success with the new car, but for me they could take it up several levels with some proper power. They could then charge a premium and make it a profitable exercise!
SFO said:
LHD Evora 400 on display at MotorExpo Canary Wharf.
Interior quality is much much improved. The leather and stitching is at least as good as Porsche, if not better.
Plus no more smell of glue.
The pedals (car is auto) are very offset to the right.
Door sills are much narrower and as a result much easier to get in and out.
Seats are fantastically supportive.
Looks much better in metal too, if a bit too bling compared to original Evora.
Are you comparing the interior to the MY2012 and onwards or prior models?Interior quality is much much improved. The leather and stitching is at least as good as Porsche, if not better.
Plus no more smell of glue.
The pedals (car is auto) are very offset to the right.
Door sills are much narrower and as a result much easier to get in and out.
Seats are fantastically supportive.
Looks much better in metal too, if a bit too bling compared to original Evora.
stuno1 said:
SFO said:
LHD Evora 400 on display at MotorExpo Canary Wharf.
Interior quality is much much improved. The leather and stitching is at least as good as Porsche, if not better.
Plus no more smell of glue.
The pedals (car is auto) are very offset to the right.
Door sills are much narrower and as a result much easier to get in and out.
Seats are fantastically supportive.
Looks much better in metal too, if a bit too bling compared to original Evora.
Are you comparing the interior to the MY2012 and onwards or prior models?Interior quality is much much improved. The leather and stitching is at least as good as Porsche, if not better.
Plus no more smell of glue.
The pedals (car is auto) are very offset to the right.
Door sills are much narrower and as a result much easier to get in and out.
Seats are fantastically supportive.
Looks much better in metal too, if a bit too bling compared to original Evora.
Sadly having seen a 400 I don't think it's improved enough in quality terms at the price point compared to the other players. Although agree the interior is a big step up and it's allot easier to get in and out of.
Yes it's nice but not nice enough or fast enough for the cost of a nice spec new one.
Given the past performance on residuals I think you'd have to be mental (or not mind loosing £10k a year in depreciation for the first few years). After that will be a smart 2nd hand buy.
I had £75k budget back in Feb and waited with baited breath to see if. Even as an ex Evora owner and with a fondness for Lotus the Porsche and the GT4 got my money (well they wil when they bloody deliver it!). I expect it will be better built, won't break down after some hard sessions and will hold its value allot better.
I hope the new Evora are niggle free and are a hoot to drive.
Yes it's nice but not nice enough or fast enough for the cost of a nice spec new one.
Given the past performance on residuals I think you'd have to be mental (or not mind loosing £10k a year in depreciation for the first few years). After that will be a smart 2nd hand buy.
I had £75k budget back in Feb and waited with baited breath to see if. Even as an ex Evora owner and with a fondness for Lotus the Porsche and the GT4 got my money (well they wil when they bloody deliver it!). I expect it will be better built, won't break down after some hard sessions and will hold its value allot better.
I hope the new Evora are niggle free and are a hoot to drive.
Have not seen or sat in the 400 but in my view Lotus have made a jump too far with this in terms of price & performance. As an owner of a 2014 car there's no way they'll have improved the quality & finish of the new car enough to match the new price. A small increase in power together with the drop in weight and maybe a small price increase would have made the car look better value.
I suspect it's just not profitable enough and they've had to pitch the price higher to show a decent return but it won't look attractive now against the German competition
I suspect it's just not profitable enough and they've had to pitch the price higher to show a decent return but it won't look attractive now against the German competition
LotusOmega375D said:
Seems like you're the first to test drive one. What do you mean by slow? Was the GT4 you tested much faster?
No driven one, only sat in one.Talking on paper speed, if they had eeked out sub 4 seconds allot of people would have taken notice despite quality issues (including me). At the price point it needs some good headline figures to tempt people from the more main stream marques IMHO it's just not fast enough on paper to tempt people to chuck circa £75k at one. Will be interesting to see the sales figures.
Loved my Evora and it never felt slow (faster than on paper and so balanced). Sadly it had more trips to the garage than all of my past 5 cars combined and did about 1 20th of the mileage. Sad but true, hope the latest batch of cars have less 'niggles', it better built under the more polished interior etc and it turns out to be a corker as will make a good used buy in 2 or 3 years.
blueg33 said:
I think the price is ok. You can't buy a Cayman GT4 they are all sold. A cayman Gts is slower and doesn't have the steering feel of my 2010 Evora. No doubt Porsche interior is better made but I find it a bit dull and it's annoying that it's the same inside as a Cayenne
Having driven an Evora and GTS back to back and having owned and Evora for nearly 2 years previously not much in the handling stakes at all when pushing on. With in a few mph on same fast bends, I expect you were more used to the feel of the Evora.Trouble is Porsche is better made all round, not just inside - sad but true (aside from chocolate engines in older cars). My 2010 car never got me to a track day, will it did but it kept going to limp mode. I know people with GT3s who rape them round the track on a regular basis and have never had an electrical gremlin or warranty claim etc.
Sadly my Evora experience was not quite as trouble free. Don't get me wronng every issue was sorted (some took a few goes) but with such a sparse network of dealers was more than a bit of a pain in the ass! The thought of that after spending £75k on one is more than a bit off putting for some as I know someone who was considering an Evora but the fact closest dealer was 95 miles was the final deal breaker for him.
stuno1 said:
When people speak about evora issue are you referring to the pre MY2012 cars? I tersted to know as looking at buying a MY2012 next year some time.
Stu
Pre 2012 mine was a late 60 plate. I have heard of a few 2013s with niggles too, especially the IPS but quality was allot better as are the interiors on later cars. Stu
I've owned 2 post 2012 cars but not by choice. The first was a 2013 IPS which broke down on a number of occasions with gearbox and/or engine management issues which Lotus couldn't seem to fix so I had to change it for a manual. This is a 2014 car and immediately felt better put together. Had it a year now and it still feels pretty solid.
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