Tyre wear problem

[steffg60]

Hi Guys,

I noticed yesterday that my 2 back tyres have extremely bad wear on the inside of the tyre approx. 1nch from inside. 1 tyre is through the rubber now.

The car has done 5000miles from new and the rest of the tyre has plenty of tread left. What do you think is causing this wear and should I ask Lotus to replace the tyres. At a guess I would say there is 4mm on the rest of the tyre apart from the inside.

Thanks in advance

[stevebe]

Pirelli rears do wear on insides and is normal with the Evora.
I have heard the Michelins last longer but I would say wear would still be higher on the inside as this is due to the setup.

[steffg60]

Can anyone recommend what tyres to replace them with?

[SWhitey]

My rears have lasted about 5-6k miles. Car is a NA and now on 16k miles and on its 4th pair of rears after I put on a full new set of OEM P0s for £480 inc vat fitted, but the original fronts had done 15k. The rears on mine wear fairly evenly, although slightly more on the insides due to the toe. I would ask your dealer to check the geo, as the wear you describe on the insides sounds excessive. Next tyre change I will probably go for Mich Pilot Super sports - as fitted to the new 400 and lots of other performance cars - they were a bit dearer last time I checked (March)

[CTE]

The Pirelli Corsa is fairly soft. I have used Avon 5ZZR (can`t remember the spec but it was the best one) and Michelin Pilot supersports. The wear rate is less with these options...at least half. There is a slight trade off with a bit less grip (allegedly), but you are splitting hairs...I think the Michelin is what is fitted to the Evora 400.

[AlanH1]

I would get your geo checked, have read a few people say their geo was out from new. The inside do wear faster but I have only seen 1mm difference across the rears.

Coming up to 6k miles on my Michelin Pilot Super Sports and have just under 4mm left on the rears. Was 5mmm but had a bit of track fun on Saturday. Was quite worried about tyre life on track but they were fine in the cool conditions. Wet weather grip has decreased markedly but that is to be expected.

Edited by AlanH1 on Wednesday 9th September 20:31

[steffg60]

Here's a pic of the tyre on the passenger side



Here's a pic of the tyre on the drives side



There's defiantly a problem with the setup. Do you think I can get it done on warranty

[AlanH1]

On such a new car I would want Lotus to do the Geo, know of one owner with similar issues who got it done under warranty at the good Scottish dealer.

There are a few posts on Seloc suggesting its the rear toe setting that causes the inner tyre wear.

[steffg60]

Lotus declined the warranty claim stating that the wear is normal and due to the setup of the car.

Anyone recommend best place to get tyres?

Thanks

[The Wookie]

TADTS. I got sick of it and managed to get 17k out of a set of 20" rears by reducing the rear camber to just under 1 degree. My previous record for a set of rears was about 10k.

My mate/old colleague from Lotus told me off because it has a negative effect on the steering weight and handling balance but really it was barely noticeable. As a bonus the tracking stability improved (less tramlining).

The Michelins do wear much better but it will significantly alter the dynamics of the car.

[EuropaSman]

Looks like the left rear needs an immediate change as it appears to be down to the canvas.

If you are on 19 inch rims on the rear and want to stay with OEM rubber there are two good options:

1. Lotus via Motorsport Auctions; you can get a pair of rear tyres for £180.

http://www.motorsportauctions.com/index.php?a=ap&a...

2. www.Tyreleader.co.uk. I've bought a full set of P Zeros (18 inch fronts/19 inch rears) for about £383 (unfortuantely the Lotus motorsport auction had sold out so I had to go to these people - typical Murphy's law!). Currently rear tyres are about £130 each.

https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/pirelli/pze...

Avoid www.mytyres.co.uk . They were dreadful, splitting payment into two transactions which blocked my credit card (I think they purposely wanted me to pay by bank transfer which would mean I'd have no payment protection).

Edited by EuropaSman on Thursday 10th September 18:43

[Toaster]

steffg60 said:

There's defiantly a problem with the setup. Do you think I can get it done on warranty

Couple of points, a) if the geometry is out it could be the car has hit a pothole and therefore it is unlikely to be covered by warranty b) it is not unheard of for an Evora to go through a set of rears in 5,000 miles http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Known_Issues_-_Evora

[blueg33]

I get through a set of the OEM Pirellis on the rear about every 6k miles, but never have wear on the inside to that degree. I would get the geo looked at.

I have used the Avons 5ZZR's they gave me about 1000 miles more but they did affect the handling/feel on fast tightening radius bends although a couple of extra psi fixed that. I have gone back to the Pirelli's as I prefer the feel/grip.

I did 20k miles in my car last year, so that was 3 sets of rears. The fronts last ages though which helps compensate.

[Alfa2Evora]

Mine came with Avons on the rear which had just under 7mm of tread so presumably fairly new. I've now done 8k on them and they're down to just over 3mm - maybe I'm not trying hard enough? I'm more than happy with their cornering abilities but then I haven't experience of anything else with which to compare them. I will be swapping them shortly for Pirellis but that's only because of the Motorsport Auctions deal - £216 + VAT for a pair.

[steffg60]

I've managed to get a set of part worn with 5.5mm on the exact same tyres for £150 for the pair.

I really do think it mad that Lotus are halving the life of an expensive tyre for the handling for road use. If it was an Exige then I could see the point but the Evora is suppose to be more of a GT car which in turn means you cover distance.

A trip around Europe would mean you need a tyre change during the trip!

Thanks for all your help guys

[Sumsion]

I was told when I changed from a LE n/a to an S IPS the camber at the rear will cause higher tyre wear on the inside . However I can make 8000 miles on a set of rears with mixed roads and motorways . No track days .
I suppose if I made a bigger effort I could reduce the tyre life ......
Love the car , ride , brakes and performance . It does produce eyes on stalks performance !! ( at least for me)

[SWhitey]

steffg60 said:

I've managed to get a set of part worn with 5.5mm on the exact same tyres for £150 for the pair.

I really do think it mad that Lotus are halving the life of an expensive tyre for the handling for road use. If it was an Exige then I could see the point but the Evora is suppose to be more of a GT car which in turn means you cover distance.

A trip around Europe would mean you need a tyre change during the trip!

Thanks for all your help guys

That's fine, depending on the age of the tyres you have bought. But, do get the Geo looked at, because the difference in the wear of your 2 rears suggests that an adjustment is necessary. As I said in a previous post, my rear tyre wear is fairly uniform, with the LHR wearing slightly more, but not to that degree. I have had my car for nearly 4 years, put on 3 sets of rear tyres, done a couple of track days, and never experienced the wear you have. The rear toe settings are almost certainly out, but a decent geo check will confirm this very quickly.

[Toaster]

fesuvious said:

Part-worns? Not judging you here but that's a surprising decision on such a high end car.

+1

[blueg33]

Toaster said:

fesuvious said:

Part-worns? Not judging you here but that's a surprising decision on such a high end car.

+1

Especially when £60 more gets you a set of new ones!

But to be fair, op needs to replace those tyres immediately as they are illegal, then take the car to a proper place for geo, he may end up damaging the new tyres before the geo is done.

[The Wookie]

SWhitey said:

That's fine, depending on the age of the tyres you have bought. But, do get the Geo looked at, because the difference in the wear of your 2 rears suggests that an adjustment is necessary. As I said in a previous post, my rear tyre wear is fairly uniform, with the LHR wearing slightly more, but not to that degree. I have had my car for nearly 4 years, put on 3 sets of rear tyres, done a couple of track days, and never experienced the wear you have. The rear toe settings are almost certainly out, but a decent geo check will confirm this very quickly.

If yours is on the 18/19's then they don't suffer it as much, it's the Corsas that destroy the inside shoulders. My n/a car chewed through a set exactly like that and when geo'd to take the camber off was spot on in spec on the back!