What should I expect from an Evora S
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chrispj said:
That's going to be annoying, I think mine are bonded on and I definitely need new mudflap brackets this year.
I guess it depends where they are bonded. Mine reach up to the mud flaps and the front bolt is the lower bolt that secures the body panel behind the from wheel. This panel needs to come off to replace the brackets.(nb drilling the rivets out of that panel whilst protecting the paint is a scary exercise, and refitting the spacers at the top is a right PITA. Make sure you keep the spacers together as they set the panel gap)
A quick update on my car. I haven't taken the plunge yet on a wrap or barge boards etc. but I'm enjoying driving it more and more. The handling really is a joy and quite a contrast to my 911. I'm struggling to explain it, but I like the way it will start to move around either due to momentum (if you throw it into a bend) or on the power. It feels like it starts to move quite early but it also seems to be able to carry huge corner speed - which seems contradictory. Really does feel very different to anything I've owned and is brilliant fun.
Powertrain is interesting, the clutch is heavy but pleasant. Gear selection is better than my 996 was. It won't be rushed at high revs, that's not to say the change is slow - you have to be very deliberate and firm but can't just try to shove it through the gate. I'm learning this and it's fine.
The engine is lacking a little charisma - I was expecting this as it was probably a highlight of my Porsche (lovely power delivery and so many interesting sounds and resonances as you moved through the rev range). It has plenty of torque, I think the car could cope easily with more top end but it has enough to be a very, very fast car and very good fun. I suspect the decat will liberate a little noise as people have suggested and this will add a little more drama / charisma.
And it puts almost as large a smile on my face driving it slowly and gently as it does hurling it through a series of sweeping bends. It really is a lovely little car.
Powertrain is interesting, the clutch is heavy but pleasant. Gear selection is better than my 996 was. It won't be rushed at high revs, that's not to say the change is slow - you have to be very deliberate and firm but can't just try to shove it through the gate. I'm learning this and it's fine.
The engine is lacking a little charisma - I was expecting this as it was probably a highlight of my Porsche (lovely power delivery and so many interesting sounds and resonances as you moved through the rev range). It has plenty of torque, I think the car could cope easily with more top end but it has enough to be a very, very fast car and very good fun. I suspect the decat will liberate a little noise as people have suggested and this will add a little more drama / charisma.
And it puts almost as large a smile on my face driving it slowly and gently as it does hurling it through a series of sweeping bends. It really is a lovely little car.
Hungrymc said:
A quick update on my car. I haven't taken the plunge yet on a wrap or barge boards etc. but I'm enjoying driving it more and more. The handling really is a joy and quite a contrast to my 911. I'm struggling to explain it, but I like the way it will start to move around either due to momentum (if you throw it into a bend) or on the power. It feels like it starts to move quite early but it also seems to be able to carry huge corner speed - which seems contradictory. Really does feel very different to anything I've owned and is brilliant fun.
Powertrain is interesting, the clutch is heavy but pleasant. Gear selection is better than my 996 was. It won't be rushed at high revs, that's not to say the change is slow - you have to be very deliberate and firm but can't just try to shove it through the gate. I'm learning this and it's fine.
The engine is lacking a little charisma - I was expecting this as it was probably a highlight of my Porsche (lovely power delivery and so many interesting sounds and resonances as you moved through the rev range). It has plenty of torque, I think the car could cope easily with more top end but it has enough to be a very, very fast car and very good fun. I suspect the decat will liberate a little noise as people have suggested and this will add a little more drama / charisma.
And it puts almost as large a smile on my face driving it slowly and gently as it does hurling it through a series of sweeping bends. It really is a lovely little car.
I assume you have sport mode for a slightly higher rev limit/better throttle response? I changed my exhaust to a tubular backbox and it changed the car and my enjoyment dramatically. Best money I have spent on it.Powertrain is interesting, the clutch is heavy but pleasant. Gear selection is better than my 996 was. It won't be rushed at high revs, that's not to say the change is slow - you have to be very deliberate and firm but can't just try to shove it through the gate. I'm learning this and it's fine.
The engine is lacking a little charisma - I was expecting this as it was probably a highlight of my Porsche (lovely power delivery and so many interesting sounds and resonances as you moved through the rev range). It has plenty of torque, I think the car could cope easily with more top end but it has enough to be a very, very fast car and very good fun. I suspect the decat will liberate a little noise as people have suggested and this will add a little more drama / charisma.
And it puts almost as large a smile on my face driving it slowly and gently as it does hurling it through a series of sweeping bends. It really is a lovely little car.
johnwilliams77 said:
I assume you have sport mode for a slightly higher rev limit/better throttle response? I changed my exhaust to a tubular backbox and it changed the car and my enjoyment dramatically. Best money I have spent on it.
Yep, it has the sport mode and does Rev well. That also brings with it the valved exhaust so it sounds OK but I think you're right that an exhaust change will really open it up - that is the new job number but I'll start with the decat pipe as I'd like to keep the switching ability (quiet for early starts - vocal when having fun).Hungrymc said:
Yep, it has the sport mode and does Rev well. That also brings with it the valved exhaust so it sounds OK but I think you're right that an exhaust change will really open it up - that is the new job number but I'll start with the decat pipe as I'd like to keep the switching ability (quiet for early starts - vocal when having fun).
You can have a tubular with a switching ability. I cannot stress enough how good it is and how much it changed the enjoyment of the car. Quiet when you start and when you want to be and loud when you want to be. Just perfect.Having naughty thoughts about moving from my Evora to: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
I only use the car at weekends/trips and think roof off would be nice.
I agree changing the exhaust is a big improvement. I have a 2013 car so no 3rd cat and added a valved larini back box. Under load.... Oh my! It gets louder the higher up the revs you go and screams! Then in non sport mode it is lovely and quiet.
https://youtu.be/ikDnJTRgHSg
https://youtu.be/ikDnJTRgHSg
Ok Ok I know my go pro fell off while filming this, but it gives an idea of the noise with decat 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhc6iF28Hyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhc6iF28Hyk
Hungrymc said:
They all sound great, I'm going to try the decat first while I work out longer plans for the car.
Unlucky with the GoPro there, any damage done?
Mine came with a decat and it was very quiet. Unlucky with the GoPro there, any damage done?
You need either the valved or non-valved. Pricey, but you can always sell it on for not much loss if you ever sell the car (unlikely!)
I got the non-valved and don't find it too loud at all.
http://www.2bular.co.uk/evora
Other manufacturers are available...larini etc.
Hungrymc said:
That looks a lovely bit of kit. I need to try and hear them in the flesh / metal - which is always tricky. The decat video from LotusAde above sounds great to my ears but I guess a 2bular or Larini would be louder (and lighter).
AhAde's video is it of an S. Mine is a NA and came with decat pipe which wasn't as loud
Hungrymc said:
That exige looks utterly gorgeous by the way.
This. My mate has an Exige S3 (having previously run an NA EvorA) and it is really quite something. If you can live with less space / comfort / practicality then go for it - extremely quick cars.Compare interior shots of both to see
A/ how close together the front seats are - two adult gents will be touching shoulders
B/ how high up the sill in the Exige comes relative to the seat back
Also bear in mind the lack of PAS - hilarious watching my buddy break out in a sweat doing 9-point turns.
Horses for courses - if the above points don't trouble you too much, they are truly special and make the Evora look a bit on the porky side.
Hungrymc said:
I've had a great drive this evening. A few things have become more clear. The stability control certainly does work, the moments I had the first few days must have been down to the very greasy roads (long dry spell, wet spell). This evening on dry and then properly wet roads, it's behaved exactly as you'd want it to (an annoyance I have with M3s and C63s etc is the constant early intervention). The car also will not spin up an inside wheel either with the stability on or off, it definitely spins the outside wheel even when pulling out of a tight junction so the 'e-diff' function although surely not as nice as a mechanical LSD, does its job well enough.
Got a free day tomorrow, need to fake it for a proper, longer run.
On the topic of clunky teenagers, my kids are a little younger - and are arguing over who gets to go in the back - they normally argue over who's turn it is in the front of a car but there is something about the back that they seem to really like (the seat is relatively high.... Maybe that).
This is really interesting! I had my first test drive in an Evora yesterday (2013 NA model). I babied the clutch from junctions since I didn't want to put any wear on it at all really. I did try some tricks to get the rear sliding, but failed miserably which either means I wasn't trying hard enough (likely) or something was switched on that I didn't know about (also likely). It certainly didn't spin up an inside wheel like my BMW does though.Got a free day tomorrow, need to fake it for a proper, longer run.
On the topic of clunky teenagers, my kids are a little younger - and are arguing over who gets to go in the back - they normally argue over who's turn it is in the front of a car but there is something about the back that they seem to really like (the seat is relatively high.... Maybe that).
Anyhow, moving onto the space in the back, I just can't see how I would get my 3 yr old and 0 yr old in, along with the wife. It must be phenomenally tight. Do you cope ok with it? Does your wife complain about the lack of space? It probably doesn't help me that I'm 6ft 3 so my seat is a fair way back too.
bennyboysvuk said:
This is really interesting! I had my first test drive in an Evora yesterday (2013 NA model). I babied the clutch from junctions since I didn't want to put any wear on it at all really. I did try some tricks to get the rear sliding, but failed miserably which either means I wasn't trying hard enough (likely) or something was switched on that I didn't know about (also likely). It certainly didn't spin up an inside wheel like my BMW does though.
Anyhow, moving onto the space in the back, I just can't see how I would get my 3 yr old and 0 yr old in, along with the wife. It must be phenomenally tight. Do you cope ok with it? Does your wife complain about the lack of space? It probably doesn't help me that I'm 6ft 3 so my seat is a fair way back too.
You work get all 4 of you in.. End of. I am 6 foot 2 no one is going behind me, there simply isn't enough room. I have taken the rear bench and seat back out as well. No issues putting our very tall 3 year old behind my wife though. With one child it's the perfect car for me. If we have another I'm screwed. Apparently the 911 991 has a substantially more rear leg room so while I don't want to that may be the next car if another nipper is on the cards.Anyhow, moving onto the space in the back, I just can't see how I would get my 3 yr old and 0 yr old in, along with the wife. It must be phenomenally tight. Do you cope ok with it? Does your wife complain about the lack of space? It probably doesn't help me that I'm 6ft 3 so my seat is a fair way back too.
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Edited by stuno1 on Thursday 18th August 12:45
Edited by stuno1 on Friday 19th August 10:45
stuno1 said:
bennyboysvuk said:
This is really interesting! I had my first test drive in an Evora yesterday (2013 NA model). I babied the clutch from junctions since I didn't want to put any wear on it at all really. I did try some tricks to get the rear sliding, but failed miserably which either means I wasn't trying hard enough (likely) or something was switched on that I didn't know about (also likely). It certainly didn't spin up an inside wheel like my BMW does though.
Anyhow, moving onto the space in the back, I just can't see how I would get my 3 yr old and 0 yr old in, along with the wife. It must be phenomenally tight. Do you cope ok with it? Does your wife complain about the lack of space? It probably doesn't help me that I'm 6ft 3 so my seat is a fair way back too.
You work get all 4 of you in.. End of. I am 6 foot 2 no one is going behind me, there simply isn't enough room. I have taken the rear bench and seat back out as well. No issues putting our very tall 3 year old behind my wife though. With one child it's the perfect car for me. If we have another I'm screwed. Apparently the 911 991 has a substantially more rear leg room so while I don't want to that may be the next car if another nipper is on the cards.Anyhow, moving onto the space in the back, I just can't see how I would get my 3 yr old and 0 yr old in, along with the wife. It must be phenomenally tight. Do you cope ok with it? Does your wife complain about the lack of space? It probably doesn't help me that I'm 6ft 3 so my seat is a fair way back too.
Edited by stuno1 on Thursday 18th August 12:45
Incidentally, 5 minutes after I drove the Evora I sat in a 997 and it felt really spacious. Perhaps that's the middle ground between Evora - 911 - M3.My mate has a 997 (which he is selling soon) I I think it has about 2 inches more rear leg room. You may squeeze a forward seat behind you (but this isn't BIG maybe) but defiantly not a rear facing one. The 991 apparently has another 2-3 inches rear leg room on the 997 so that would work for front facing seat and for this reason alone that may be my next car if we have another nipper. If it wasn't obvious the the pic with the seat very close to the driver seat is where I am comfortable driving.
Basically choose a seat and practice for before committing.
Basically choose a seat and practice for before committing.
996 and 997 both have far more room in the event you need to carry 4. Even squeezed a couple of adults in the back of a 996TT to pootle about Spa before. No chance of that in the Evora.
The chap that owned my before only sold as he had a second child. He could fit a baby seat behind the passenger seat but even the overhang of the baby seat was too close to the back of the driver's seat (he was similar height to me so 6'3" ish) so he couldn't fit the 4 of them in the car.
The chap that owned my before only sold as he had a second child. He could fit a baby seat behind the passenger seat but even the overhang of the baby seat was too close to the back of the driver's seat (he was similar height to me so 6'3" ish) so he couldn't fit the 4 of them in the car.
I second the comments above. Although I keep talking about having wanted a 2+2. It was actually a 3 seat car that I needed (myself and my two kids - 10 and 11 years old).
The Evora is absolutely fine when I have both kids on the passenger side. There is no usable leg room behind the driver. I'm only 5ft 10, you can get your hand down behind the drivers seat but there is no real room for legs ... and feet in particular (they can't really go under the drivers seat).
I HAVE had 4 people in the car for a 30 minute journey. Two adults in the front, the passenger a bit cramped. And two kids in the back - my daughter behind me sat with her legs crossed. My Lad on the passenger side sitting normally.
It is more of a compromise than a 996/7. But they are also so tight in the back that I'm not sure it's particularly relevant. I had to push my seat a long way forward in my 996 to allow a child to sit behind me, might have been OK in an auto but it was a pretty bad driving position in a manual car.
The Evora is absolutely fine when I have both kids on the passenger side. There is no usable leg room behind the driver. I'm only 5ft 10, you can get your hand down behind the drivers seat but there is no real room for legs ... and feet in particular (they can't really go under the drivers seat).
I HAVE had 4 people in the car for a 30 minute journey. Two adults in the front, the passenger a bit cramped. And two kids in the back - my daughter behind me sat with her legs crossed. My Lad on the passenger side sitting normally.
It is more of a compromise than a 996/7. But they are also so tight in the back that I'm not sure it's particularly relevant. I had to push my seat a long way forward in my 996 to allow a child to sit behind me, might have been OK in an auto but it was a pretty bad driving position in a manual car.
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