What should I expect from an Evora S
Discussion
Hungrymc said:
Any final comments or thoughts from you Jayemm? For someone coming to an Evora as a fun / weekend car from a 996 Porsche ?
If you can find my YouTube channel (not allowed to link here), you will find that I recently did a comparison of a 996 C4S and an NA Evora.The C4S is a quicker car, although if you had an Evora S they'd be pretty neck-and-neck. The interior in the Evora feels much nicer than the 996-gen cars, ride and handling are superb. M030-equipped 996s are hellish on UK b-roads, the Lotus is perfectly judged for them.
If it's just a fun/weekend car I would be very tempted to try an Elise though, unless you need the extra capacity?
johnwilliams77 said:
How could you! Stunning car.
How different do they feel to drive?
They feel completely different. 991 S v S1 Evora S.....How different do they feel to drive?
The Evora felt lighter although looking at the weights there is nothing in it. You could feel if you ran over a stone in the Evora where the 991 has less feeling in that respect. The Evora DOES feel like a big elise (I still have an S1 elise). The 991 feels more of a GT. Torque is massively greater in the 991 (wheel spin 2nd gear to 3rd at high revs), never had that with the Evora. The Evora was a quick car and when I test drove an Evora 400 I couldn't really tell a difference in power. The Evora was a lot easier to throw around, I think the mid engine layout made it feel very neutral cornering at high speed where although the 991 grips and grips you can definitely feel the engine out the back.
The porsche is put together a hell of a lot better though, you know that VW ad with the door shutting thump rather than a clang......its like that but everywhere. BUT......nobody and I mean nobody takes a 2nd look when I drive past where EVERYBODY did in the Evora.
I do miss it to be honest, it will be going to auction at some point and I don't know why I punish myself checking the ads everyday to see if it is for sale but the 991 is faster, cheaper to run (fuel, servicing intervals, tyres), better put together and has more room for the kids.
LotusAde said:
They feel completely different. 991 S v S1 Evora S.....
The Evora felt lighter although looking at the weights there is nothing in it. You could feel if you ran over a stone in the Evora where the 991 has less feeling in that respect. The Evora DOES feel like a big elise (I still have an S1 elise). The 991 feels more of a GT. Torque is massively greater in the 991 (wheel spin 2nd gear to 3rd at high revs), never had that with the Evora. The Evora was a quick car and when I test drove an Evora 400 I couldn't really tell a difference in power. The Evora was a lot easier to throw around, I think the mid engine layout made it feel very neutral cornering at high speed where although the 991 grips and grips you can definitely feel the engine out the back.
The porsche is put together a hell of a lot better though, you know that VW ad with the door shutting thump rather than a clang......its like that but everywhere. BUT......nobody and I mean nobody takes a 2nd look when I drive past where EVERYBODY did in the Evora.
I do miss it to be honest, it will be going to auction at some point and I don't know why I punish myself checking the ads everyday to see if it is for sale but the 991 is faster, cheaper to run (fuel, servicing intervals, tyres), better put together and has more room for the kids.
I can see why you bought the 991 now, especially since you have an S1 elise and the funds to do so. The attention in the evora is quite surprising for me, but it makes it feel all the more special. The evora’s ‘light feeling’ and ‘high revving’ is all part of the fun although I can see how more torque in a 991 would be even more relaxing. Personal preference really.The Evora felt lighter although looking at the weights there is nothing in it. You could feel if you ran over a stone in the Evora where the 991 has less feeling in that respect. The Evora DOES feel like a big elise (I still have an S1 elise). The 991 feels more of a GT. Torque is massively greater in the 991 (wheel spin 2nd gear to 3rd at high revs), never had that with the Evora. The Evora was a quick car and when I test drove an Evora 400 I couldn't really tell a difference in power. The Evora was a lot easier to throw around, I think the mid engine layout made it feel very neutral cornering at high speed where although the 991 grips and grips you can definitely feel the engine out the back.
The porsche is put together a hell of a lot better though, you know that VW ad with the door shutting thump rather than a clang......its like that but everywhere. BUT......nobody and I mean nobody takes a 2nd look when I drive past where EVERYBODY did in the Evora.
I do miss it to be honest, it will be going to auction at some point and I don't know why I punish myself checking the ads everyday to see if it is for sale but the 991 is faster, cheaper to run (fuel, servicing intervals, tyres), better put together and has more room for the kids.
Interesting comment on ‘cheaper to run’: Surely you need a 30k evora if you really want it to be cheaper to run. If you included depreciation in your calculation which is a huge cost of running a 991…!
I have considered the latest Boxster too couldn’t part the an evora for one.
We are all here because we love driving and cars but for me: the feel of the steering and the car’s nimbleness outweighs heavily the noise when you shut the door / interior quality. The fact that there is less of them is appealing also. I am quite sure if my salary doubled tomorrow or 100k dropped in my bank I would still do the same, albeit, I would probably have a nice bright 400 like jay.
johnwilliams77 said:
I can see why you bought the 991 now, especially since you have an S1 elise and the funds to do so. The attention in the evora is quite surprising for me, but it makes it feel all the more special. The evora’s ‘light feeling’ and ‘high revving’ is all part of the fun although I can see how more torque in a 991 would be even more relaxing. Personal preference really.
Interesting comment on ‘cheaper to run’: Surely you need a 30k evora if you really want it to be cheaper to run. If you included depreciation in your calculation which is a huge cost of running a 991…!
I have considered the latest Boxster too couldn’t part the an evora for one.
We are all here because we love driving and cars but for me: the feel of the steering and the car’s nimbleness outweighs heavily the noise when you shut the door / interior quality. The fact that there is less of them is appealing also. I am quite sure if my salary doubled tomorrow or 100k dropped in my bank I would still do the same, albeit, I would probably have a nice bright 400 like jay.
yep agree on depreciation although don't forget the S1 Evora was a £65K car and plummeted to >£40K in 2 years. Luckily they have held steady for a while in the 30's. I have to admit it was nice PX'ing a car after 3 years for £4K less than I paid Interesting comment on ‘cheaper to run’: Surely you need a 30k evora if you really want it to be cheaper to run. If you included depreciation in your calculation which is a huge cost of running a 991…!
I have considered the latest Boxster too couldn’t part the an evora for one.
We are all here because we love driving and cars but for me: the feel of the steering and the car’s nimbleness outweighs heavily the noise when you shut the door / interior quality. The fact that there is less of them is appealing also. I am quite sure if my salary doubled tomorrow or 100k dropped in my bank I would still do the same, albeit, I would probably have a nice bright 400 like jay.
I think if I wasn't lucky enough to have the S1 Elise I would probably still have the Evora but they are very much alike in some aspects.
Edited by LotusAde on Tuesday 26th July 11:17
Here's a different way of seeing it.
I recently drove a Ferrari 355, and I also have seat time in a 360. If that's the kind of car that you look up to (mid-engined, exotic, screaming engine, great handling) but you don't fancy the running costs of a 20-year old Ferrari, the Evora will give you what you want.
I also did a video comparing the 400 with the 355 as they're both available for a similar price (if you're not too fussy about your 355). The 355 is nowhere near as quick, but I don't see Ferrari guys knocking it for a lack of speed. That's just not what it's about. I mean, if straight line speed for low price is your goal, get a Golf R and chip it or something like that.
I recently drove a Ferrari 355, and I also have seat time in a 360. If that's the kind of car that you look up to (mid-engined, exotic, screaming engine, great handling) but you don't fancy the running costs of a 20-year old Ferrari, the Evora will give you what you want.
I also did a video comparing the 400 with the 355 as they're both available for a similar price (if you're not too fussy about your 355). The 355 is nowhere near as quick, but I don't see Ferrari guys knocking it for a lack of speed. That's just not what it's about. I mean, if straight line speed for low price is your goal, get a Golf R and chip it or something like that.
DaveGB said:
Have had 3 911's and long test drives in Caymans (981). Great cars.
However found the Evora gave me more smiles per mile by far. They really get under your skin, great ride , great handing, great looks etc etc. Used mine as my company car and always felt special.
Evora is similar to 911 in feel of size, performance , but better ride, more feel in the steering and more mini Suoercar looks than the Porker in my humble opinion. I got asked if my 997 GT3 was a Boxster once lol.
This is the car I bought and sold via Lotus Silverstone.
MY12 cars have improved interiors.
A few cars on, I made the mistake of test driving the Evora 400 at Lotus Silverstone and picking this up next week, from same dealer . Nearly forgot how well they handle and ride, really are epic cars. Noise wise the 400 is best sound out side of a lambo/Ferrari ...it absolutely howls at 109db !!
Have always dealt with Aimee and Matt at Silverstone....get down there and drive one
If you want absolute maximum feel to the car, then also try an Exige V6 when down there. They are epic in a more raw manner, albeit only 2 seats.
Dave
I was scheduled to test drive your white car yesterday at lotus silverstone! But then I got the call that it had been sold, so I guess thats you!:P still got a test drive in a 400, but it had delivery miles and had to keep it below 4k rpm which is great shame. Aimee was really helpful with everything. It was my first time in a Lotus, and I was well and truly impress, especially with the interior. I currently have 981 cayman gts, which has a better build quality naturally, but the 400 wasn't a million miles away. Now I am waiting for a call to test drive a 400 that has been run it! can't wait!However found the Evora gave me more smiles per mile by far. They really get under your skin, great ride , great handing, great looks etc etc. Used mine as my company car and always felt special.
Evora is similar to 911 in feel of size, performance , but better ride, more feel in the steering and more mini Suoercar looks than the Porker in my humble opinion. I got asked if my 997 GT3 was a Boxster once lol.
This is the car I bought and sold via Lotus Silverstone.
MY12 cars have improved interiors.
A few cars on, I made the mistake of test driving the Evora 400 at Lotus Silverstone and picking this up next week, from same dealer . Nearly forgot how well they handle and ride, really are epic cars. Noise wise the 400 is best sound out side of a lambo/Ferrari ...it absolutely howls at 109db !!
Have always dealt with Aimee and Matt at Silverstone....get down there and drive one
If you want absolute maximum feel to the car, then also try an Exige V6 when down there. They are epic in a more raw manner, albeit only 2 seats.
Dave
Edited by DaveGB on Saturday 23 July 18:00
Enjoy you lovely new machine!
Have done a reasonable number of miles in a mate's 400 and also a 997.1. The 400 is miles, miles better than a 997. Ride, noise, looks, steering feel, interior, performance. About the only thing that is better is the 6 speed manual in the Porsche, which is surely one of the great gearboxes. And the 400 gear change is much improved over previous Lotus efforts. I don't think a 991 S is a fair comparison given the bonkers price that one of these is now (my local dealer's ones are always optioned to well over 90k, 20k more than the 400) and the 991 seems to depreciate at least as quickly as a 400 as well.
I'd have one like a shot (as my practical family car) if I could afford to keep my V6 Exige as well.
I'd have one like a shot (as my practical family car) if I could afford to keep my V6 Exige as well.
gashead1105 said:
Have done a reasonable number of miles in a mate's 400 and also a 997.1. The 400 is miles, miles better than a 997. Ride, noise, looks, steering feel, interior, performance. About the only thing that is better is the 6 speed manual in the Porsche, which is surely one of the great gearboxes. And the 400 gear change is much improved over previous Lotus efforts. I don't think a 991 S is a fair comparison given the bonkers price that one of these is now (my local dealer's ones are always optioned to well over 90k, 20k more than the 400) and the 991 seems to depreciate at least as quickly as a 400 as well.
I'd have one like a shot (as my practical family car) if I could afford to keep my V6 Exige as well.
When I was browsing cars I saw a nice 991 C4S at Porsche Cambridge. £115K!I'd have one like a shot (as my practical family car) if I could afford to keep my V6 Exige as well.
Both lovely looking cars Sumsion. I don't think I'd feel hard done by in either.
This is an S with all the packs, the kids fit in the back (while its new and novel they are arguing over who gets to sit in the back... Not sure that will last though). Feels very lively, I'd say a little more sprightly than the C4S but it feels more exciting because it's so agile and "front endy" if that makes any sense as an expression.
This is an S with all the packs, the kids fit in the back (while its new and novel they are arguing over who gets to sit in the back... Not sure that will last though). Feels very lively, I'd say a little more sprightly than the C4S but it feels more exciting because it's so agile and "front endy" if that makes any sense as an expression.
I am having a communication with a mate right now with a 997 and basically they are light on the front end, so much so that you have to steam into a corner with the brakes hard on to get traction, and then get on the power early, but not too much of either otherwise you`ll become part of the scenery. It is not massively dissimilar with the Evora, but you`ll ease off the brakes as you turn in. With some track time you`ll find the Evora is extremely playful and adjustable. On the road its compliant ride and superb balance means that some ridiculous speeds can be carried through bends...only on Autobahns of course.
Hungrymc said:
Both lovely looking cars Sumsion. I don't think I'd feel hard done by in either.
This is an S with all the packs, the kids fit in the back (while its new and novel they are arguing over who gets to sit in the back... Not sure that will last though). Feels very lively, I'd say a little more sprightly than the C4S but it feels more exciting because it's so agile and "front endy" if that makes any sense as an expression.
To quote my mate who i allowed to drive my Evora yo LeMans. "It has a great front end" This is an S with all the packs, the kids fit in the back (while its new and novel they are arguing over who gets to sit in the back... Not sure that will last though). Feels very lively, I'd say a little more sprightly than the C4S but it feels more exciting because it's so agile and "front endy" if that makes any sense as an expression.
CTE said:
I am having a communication with a mate right now with a 997 and basically they are light on the front end, so much so that you have to steam into a corner with the brakes hard on to get traction, and then get on the power early, but not too much of either otherwise you`ll become part of the scenery. It is not massively dissimilar with the Evora, but you`ll ease off the brakes as you turn in. With some track time you`ll find the Evora is extremely playful and adjustable. On the road its compliant ride and superb balance means that some ridiculous speeds can be carried through bends...only on Autobahns of course.
911s are weird. Mine was a 4 wheel drive and they have more weight on the front axle, and a little calmer steering as a result of the small amount of drive at the front wheels. The way it always felt to me was that you had to be quite deliberate / careful on turn in to avoid under steer (you could brake deep but had to turn it in pretty gently). But you could get on the gas very hard and very early. Most of the sideways moments I had (which were limited - after years of M3s etc being sideways everywhere) were due to rapid left / right type direction changes where you suddenly became aware of all the weight hanging out the back, despite it never really showing itself in normal cornering other than with huge traction.I'm very new to the Evora, but the front end feels great in comparison, much more keen to turn in. I haven't experimented with braking deep in it yet so I have a lot to learn there. It has already shown that it has a lively back end, and when tidying it back up, I can see comparisons to the 911 in contrast with front engine cars. It's as if you have to manage the weight / momentum in a very different way to front engined cars. You have to balance / catch it first, and then bring it back in line, its almost two distinct phases. I think in front engined cars these phases are somehow less distinct... Could just be me being a little cack handed. Looking forward to playing on track and learning the car properly.
Once again, thanks all for the comments and advice.
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