40k mark broken !

[jackal]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2643917.htm


Anyone know if this was B&C's first demo car ?

Edited by jackal on Tuesday 29th March 01:55

[jazzyjeff]

This car has been advertised for over a week now.

Looks surprisingly good in that colour and also in combination with the Oyster interior

My concern though is why a dealer (BMW or not) would be selling a car without getting any scuff damage fixed first. Surely this would add value or sales interest since it will mean the buyer won't have to deal with the repair hassle?

JJ

[Vladimir Pukin]

Also £70K broken!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2658296.htm

Mind you, the car is 100 years old according to the ad.

[jackal]

Vladimir Pukin said:

Also £70K broken!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2658296.htm

Mind you, the car is 100 years old according to the ad.

that looks amazing

[GKP]

Seems as though reports of a sub £40k Evora were premature. They've ammended the advert.

[Mermaid]

GKP said:

Seems as though reports of a sub £40k Evora were premature. They've ammended the advert.

They monitor PH's and adjust prices accordingly

[jackal]

crikey .... lower miles and dealer facilities/SOGA for that sort of money

[jazzyjeff]

Hmmm how do we sell this car with minor bodywork damage we can't be arsed to fix...? I know, let's put up the price by £4k - that'll get the punters in!

Never mind that they can't even spell Colvill

JJ

[Bryn Pinzgauer]

Couple of sub £40k now.

[bobo]

none of the cars on PH's are selling by the look of it, must be a dealers nightmare ?!

[Boggy]

This time next year you'll be able to buy for low 30's. This is the time an Evora makes sense

Boggy

[Scuffers]

I suspect less than that.

Launch cars down to £37,777 asking price..... that's got to hurt.

Upside, they are a nice car for that kind of cash.....

[Tuna]

Is that a surprise? The launch Evoras are coming up to the two year mark, the S has come out and there have been general improvements across the range.

Maybe I'm wrong, but the depreciation of a Porsche of similar age isn't so far different from what I've seen in the classifieds.

It's a pity the launch models haven't kept some cachet - but at this stage in the lifecycle it can't be that surprising. The S1 Elise is beginning to become quite desirable after how many years? It's great news that Lotus have found some real confidence in the Evora to commit to the original plans for future models, but it's going to be a while before it will do anything other than depreciate like any other sports car.

So, no news here unless you're desperately trying to prove a point.

[ravon]

I think what Scuffers has said is spot on, at sub £40K pricing these cars are very well priced, and represent a good and very exclusive Porsche alternative, except for the potential reliability issues and the very high tyre wear. Judging by the seventy-four cars for sale on this site, I'm assuming they still aren't selling well, I'm told Lotus dumped a large number of pre registered cars on the UK market earlier in the year, at very attractive discounts to dealers and specialists, so my guess is that there is plenty of haggling room on the advertised prices !

Wonder what percentage of total production is represented by the PH advertised cars ?

[ravon]

Error !

Edited by ravon on Friday 13th May 08:48

[jazzyjeff]

ravon said:

at sub £40K pricing these cars are very well priced, and represent a good and very exclusive Porsche alternative, except for the potential reliability issues

Arguably the most expensive reliability concern for most cars is the powertrain.
Which do you think is more likely to fail?

[Tuna]

jazzyjeff said:

Arguably the most expensive reliability concern for most cars is the powertrain.
Which do you think is more likely to fail?

Porsche, or fairly under stressed Toyota? There's a good question.

[ravon]

The obsolete Toyota V6 engine should be very reliable ! The Toyota Avensis Diesel gearbox, I would of guessed is very marginal indeed, particularly with the extra torque of the supercharged car, looking at the drive train situation as a layman, everything automotive is these days of FEA paired down to the minimum, that gearbox/ differential/clutch was designed for a front drive application, which is ultimatley limited by the grip of the relatively narrow front tyres, which is effectively reduced by weight transference under acceleration, i.e. ultimately the front wheels break traction easily and spin. In the case of the Evora, the weight transfer acts to effectively add weight over the very wide rear tyres, so the drive train is under much greater loading than it would see in an Avensis, in addition, I don't think Toyota make a 300bhp variant of that car ? This could help explain why there is talk on the forums of very premature clutch failures ? I could add the easily discovered ( via the Forums ) myriad of faults such as central locking failures, air conditioning failures, water leaks, cockpit misting, steering rack failures, excessive tyre wear, sat nav/ phone integration problems and then look at the poor fit and finish, the panel gaps, the paint finish, the ripply fibre glass, and it's not surprising there are so many used Evora's for sale. I'm sure Porsche also have many failings, but they have a long history of making this type of car very well, they have very large development budgets, and they do make the complete car, it doesn't have bits borrowed from here and there.

As I've said many times, I'm lucky enough to drive examples from both marques, and enjoy them both greatly, I believe it was a mistake for Lotus to take on the established car makers in this niche, they simply don't have the resource, experience, or ability, but at £35K a low milage Evora becomes quite a prospect !

[Scuffers]

very well put...

if Lotus wish to sell £50K+ cars they need to step up their capabilities massively, customer expectations are way higher at that price point.

[Tuna]

God forbid they try to improve their output.

Lotus, know your place!