Anyone else in Mallorca?

Anyone else in Mallorca?

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Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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mickrick said:
You can never have too many projects! biggrin

What will you do about registering your Rush? If you become resident, you'll have 6 months to put it on Spanish plates. Otherwise, I'd be wary of parking it in the marina on a regular basis.
Absolutely, more projects the better! biggrin I think running out of active projects is half the reason I'm moving.

I'm working on the theory that if the business is successful, I should have enough spare cash to import the Rush, if I don't, I should probably head back to England and return to swearing at a computer for a living.

I've been told I may need to fit a pair of cats to the Rush to help it pass the ITV (1999 registered, with a 1985 block), but luckily Dax can provide some which just slot into the existing exhausts for £100 a side. Then need to fit a Lambda sensor and a box of tricks to pump extra air into the inlet manifold when needed. I've spoken to a man in Barcelona who seems confident enough about importing. Or maybe you can recommend some one on the island? Any experiences of such things?

cabbron

416 posts

217 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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mickrick,324bhp,280ft lb,(alledgedly)pics to follow when I get back to UK to pick it up,v. excited!

Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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cabbron said:
mickrick,324bhp,280ft lb,(alledgedly)pics to follow when I get back to UK to pick it up,v. excited!
Blimey!

cabbron

416 posts

217 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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nice dax btw!

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Rothgo Wooft said:
mickrick said:
You can never have too many projects! biggrin

What will you do about registering your Rush? If you become resident, you'll have 6 months to put it on Spanish plates. Otherwise, I'd be wary of parking it in the marina on a regular basis.
I've spoken to a man in Barcelona who seems confident enough about importing. Or maybe you can recommend some one on the island? Any experiences of such things?
Hope it's not the guys who recon they have imported an Atom?
I haven't done one myself, that's why I'm interested, as I'll need to do my Seven when it's finished.
I do think you'll have more luck getting it done on the mainland. They seem a bit narrow minded on the Islands. I have been told by more than one person "They don't ""do Kitcars""! I'm thinking of trying my luck in Galicia.
I'm sure KT will be along soon to advise. wink

Nice one Cabbron! cool Look forward to seeing some pictures.

Edited by mickrick on Monday 31st May 22:10

cabbron

416 posts

217 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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my handle has 2 b's lol.

Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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mickrick said:
Hope it's not the guys who recon they have imported an Atom?
I found an American chap called Chris Dann recommended on a forum. He needs the car for three weeks to do it, apparently. Does this sound reasonable, or a reason to be suspicious?

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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cabbron said:
my handle has 2 b's lol.
Ooops! Sorry. biglaugh


mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Rothgo Wooft said:
mickrick said:
Hope it's not the guys who recon they have imported an Atom?
I found an American chap called Chris Dann recommended on a forum. He needs the car for three weeks to do it, apparently. Does this sound reasonable, or a reason to be suspicious?
No idea realy. Maybe three weeks for the paperwork. But I would have thought a couple of hours for the engineers to check the car over.
Like I said, I haven't done it myself. Although a good friend of mine brought a 911 in from Germany, but that's a bit more straightforward than a homebuilt car.
From what I've heard, Q plate cars are a no no. In Mallorca anyway.
I'm sure it helps if you know someone, who knows which palms to grease winkhehe

Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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mickrick said:
No idea realy. Maybe three weeks for the paperwork. But I would have thought a couple of hours for the engineers to check the car over.
Like I said, I haven't done it myself. Although a good friend of mine brought a 911 in from Germany, but that's a bit more straightforward than a homebuilt car.
From what I've heard, Q plate cars are a no no. In Mallorca anyway.
I'm sure it helps if you know someone, who knows which palms to grease winkhehe
Ah.. I'm on a Q plate. I'd better start researching this. Being separated from the P&J wasn't part of the plan...

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Oh! scratchchin I was chatting with a guy in Portals who had a crossflow Seven on a Q. He'd re-built it into a new LHD chassis. The engineers in Palma wouldn't look at it.
But saying that, he was one of those Ex-Pats who didn't speak any Spanish, after living here for many years. So he was probably trying to speak to them loudly in English. rolleyes Doesn't help.
I know they like to see CoC, but you won't have one. I can't get one for my car either. Caterham will only issue them on Factory built cars.

I ran my previous Seven here for over a year, no problems, even though I'm a resident. But it wasn't parked in the street or a marina. Tucked away in a garage under a dust cover. It came out for Sunday hoons, and a bit of Bike baiting.

I got stopped two or three times. Once for doing a 1 point turn on the throttle in Pollensa (I didn't see the copper on a m/cycle laugh), once in a traffic que! I think they just wanted to look at the car, and I think I got told off once becuase apparently noise = speed. rolleyes The two times I was a nuaghty boy, I put on my humble persona, and got away with a finger wagging.
Also I don't think the coppers could be arsed with dealing with British V5, driving licence, (I still refuse to give up my British licence.) and insurance papers. wink

Leave your car sitting in a marina or the street, with British plates, and the Guardia Civil, who drive around the marinas a lot, will eventualy clock it. Once they realise you are resident, they can confiscate it.

Gosh! Hope I haven't scared you off! You may never have a problem, but you should be aware. Like I said before, you may have it easier getting it plated on the mainland.
Also, as I said before, I'm thinking about Galicia. My wife is from there, and I find the people there generaly very helpfull, as opposed the the Islands, where it seems everyones job is to make life as difficult as possible.

Of course, you don't have to become a resident. You could just get a fiscal number, to pay a bit of tax, until you decide whether the Ex-pat life is for you.

Drop me a PM when you're settled, I'll stand you a beer. smile

Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Hmmm... Well I guess I have six months to work something out. I don't really fancy risking having it impounded! Though you do make it sound fairly relaxed compared to the UK.

My GRP wizard friend wants to use it for a bit of publicity, with a few brochures left on the bonnet or something. I get the car bought up to his high standards as a reward.

Do you think the Guardia will take objection to it being seen about a bit for a few months? Are they all aware of the 183 day rule? I'm effectively doing it as a busman's holiday, helping him with the business in return for accommodation, until the winter work comes in. I won't be earning anything for a while, so my savings have to last me through that, but at least no earnings tax to worry about until then.

Luckily, if I can't get it registered in time, I have some storage I could probably use with family in France & England, but the journey wouldn't be that much fun once winter moves in. This is only a backup plan. I'm working on the theory that the business will be a success and I'll want it all legal before the new year.

I've read that certain regions are easier than others, then its just a change of address to the island. It sounds like this is the way to go.

I'll be sure to take you up on that offer of a beer and we can discuss strategies. thumbup

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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If you're not resident, I don't think you'll get any grief over the summer.
A lot of Yacht owners bring their cars over for the summer. It's just when you become a resident that you'll have to be above board.
Don't go stickering up the car though, as a Spanish business has to have a Spanish registered vehicle.
There was a German fellow who did Sandblasting, and used his German registered Merc ML to tow the compressor. He used to get loads of grief.

By the way, I have a contact for Soda blasting. May be usefull to you, in the business you're intending start.

Look forward to discussing strategies. wink

Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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That's good news. I'll not have to worry about it for a little while, at least.

This link has some useful information, if you've not already seen it. Clicky

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Interesting link. I see they say a resident only has 30 days to register the vehicle. I've never seen anything here done in 30 days! laugh
This is the bugger though...
Certificate of Conformity (Certificado de Conformidad) from the vehicle manufacturer or a certified representative (original and photocopy).

Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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What did you do about insurance when you had the UK registered car there? I'm struggling to find anyone that will do a UK kit car for a years euro cover. The best I can find is 3 months European cover, which just isn't enough.

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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My insurance covered european cover, with a Spanish translation on the back of the certificate. I used my U.K. address, same as where the car was registered.
They didn't stipulate I had to tell them I was here, so I didn't. smile

cabbron

416 posts

217 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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^ what he said.

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

202 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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mickrick said:
Rothgo Wooft said:
mickrick said:
Hope it's not the guys who recon they have imported an Atom?
I found an American chap called Chris Dann recommended on a forum. He needs the car for three weeks to do it, apparently. Does this sound reasonable, or a reason to be suspicious?
No idea realy. Maybe three weeks for the paperwork. But I would have thought a couple of hours for the engineers to check the car over.
Like I said, I haven't done it myself. Although a good friend of mine brought a 911 in from Germany, but that's a bit more straightforward than a homebuilt car.
From what I've heard, Q plate cars are a no no. In Mallorca anyway.
I'm sure it helps if you know someone, who knows which palms to grease winkhehe
I have done a lot of imports fro both the U.K. and also from Germany without many problems, but they will wind you up without any shadow of doubt where you are tearing your hair out.

Don't get annoyed with them just keep on plugging away at them which pisses them off as they will have to comply anywhere with the same rules as we are all in Europe and the rules of Europe are way stronger than any part of Spain, no doubt the tossers will tell you but this is Catalyuna, take no notice tell them it's still part of Europe and Brussels has the final say.

The worst one that I had was a 10mtr German Motorhome with a truck chassis and a very large tow bar for moving my bikes and cars around, this was in Galicia so I get an appointment for the ITV and get there and they park us up in a bay and start measuring us up with a 5mtr tape measure which takes them a couple of hours, we just sit in the van and wait.

Knock on the door, escuse me but you will have to have the tow bar removed in order that we can ITV the vehicle, Me,why, Him-That is what is generally done here, Me - but the tow bar is part of the chassis, if I remove this you will have some serious repercussions when you cause a serious accident for me. Them well that is what we do, suggestion take it to the Mercedes Commercial Garage they will be able to do it, Me no they can't it is an impossibility as I have just told you.
But you will have to go there as we can't do it without that is off, me don't be so stupid you are obvioously not engineers and haven't a clue what you are both talking about and doing.

Take it down there or nothing more from us.

So I did and Mercedes said you can't take that off it's and integral part of the chassis, you can take the tow ball off but that's all. Me a very happy chappie.

Back up to the ITV and the guy comes out and says in a loud voice so it's back now we will have another look Me- it's still the same Mercedes confirmed what I told you " It is an integral part of the chassis" Oh well I guess then we will have to test it with the tow bar as it is then, end of story.

But that is how picky and awkward they are and can be.

One other one was when I was changing my Corvette over and they couldn't find the chassis/engine number which was on the engineers report, excus me I said but the engine number and chassis number on Corvettes are the same no they are no came the reply, Me- yes they are ,them - they can't be.
Me straight on the phone to Barcelona which confirmed my point.
Them - that's very unusual.

They are just real ignorant lazy people, I could tell you loads of stories of how to pass the ITV but it would fill a book.

You must go to an engineer who your Gestor that changes all your licences and vehicles over, then ask them to recommend an engineer who you can take the car to to be measured up and to ensure that it gets a conformity certificate which is the first hurdle for you to get over, when you have done that make sure as much as possible that it is in you opinion totally up to scratch, with things like headlights and the the wheels and tyres that you are going to have on the car that will be driven in at all times, (make sure that you have these on before you see the engineer ) as once it is stamped in the new log book every time you change wheels and perhaps you put on different tyres you have to g and get it recorded on the log book, and when you see the Guardia checking out cars sometimes they are looking for this as being recorded if not you will get knicked and possibly even have your car towed to the compound with all the costs associated and the daily standing charge + the release charge.

It's a real hotbed, but it is not insurmountable.

If I can help just pm me or e-mail me.

Rothgo Wooft

157 posts

169 months

Friday 30th July 2010
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Made it here and starting to settle in. Need to get the boat business rolling before the car gets on Spanish plates. Certainly seems to be getting a lot of attention on the island, but all the right kind so far.

Have seen a possible route for it to become a classic due to the engine age, which seems to avoid a lot of hassle. Will let you know how that goes, once I get round to it.

Everyone's using their boats, rather than having them fixed at the moment. Things may be a little tight for the next few months... Bring on the storms!

PS, if anyone is interested in carbon fibre decorations in the mean time, please let me know. The Rush will be getting a demonstration CF bonnet scoop in the next few weeks... I'll post a pisture of the CF dragon we've be working on as soon as I get my hands on a decent camera.