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Lurking Lawyer

4,534 posts

226 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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V8TVR said:
Might be wrong but i believe he is currently on £30K and has been offered double money, but it is of no consequence as he wants to, and quite rightly too, to go to a bigger club.
The figures I saw were a current salary of £20K/week, with the offer to double it to £40K. That's quite big money in the Lambert era, where reducing wages has been the first order of business (other than hold-overs like Given and Ireland) - but it's still chicken feed compared to what the big clubs can afford.

Rumour has it that Benteke fancies a move to Spurs. The commonly held view is that it's being entirely driven by his agent.

I think I posted in here a month or two back saying it was inevitable he would go, but rather hoped it would be after another season. It's just the way of the world, I guess - players hold all the cards and they constantly have agents whispering in their ear about bigger clubs, bigger salary and bonuses and the prospect of European football.

Villa is just another one of the feeder clubs for the top 4-5 now, as much as it pains me to say it....

V8TVR

785 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Lurking Lawyer said:
The figures I saw were a current salary of £20K/week, with the offer to double it to £40K. That's quite big money in the Lambert era, where reducing wages has been the first order of business (other than hold-overs like Given and Ireland) - but it's still chicken feed compared to what the big clubs can afford.

Rumour has it that Benteke fancies a move to Spurs. The commonly held view is that it's being entirely driven by his agent.

I think I posted in here a month or two back saying it was inevitable he would go, but rather hoped it would be after another season. It's just the way of the world, I guess - players hold all the cards and they constantly have agents whispering in their ear about bigger clubs, bigger salary and bonuses and the prospect of European football.

Villa is just another one of the feeder clubs for the top 4-5 now, as much as it pains me to say it....
Unfortunately we always have been and always will be a feeder club to the clubs that are prepared to run their clubs into extreme debt, i say that rather than bigger clubs, because i don't believe that they are bigger, just have more money too waste and lose.

But i wish CB good luck in his travels, i for one wish he would go to Chelsea and we get Lukaku in exchange wink

Spanna

3,732 posts

177 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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V8TVR said:
Lurking Lawyer said:
The figures I saw were a current salary of £20K/week, with the offer to double it to £40K. That's quite big money in the Lambert era, where reducing wages has been the first order of business (other than hold-overs like Given and Ireland) - but it's still chicken feed compared to what the big clubs can afford.

Rumour has it that Benteke fancies a move to Spurs. The commonly held view is that it's being entirely driven by his agent.

I think I posted in here a month or two back saying it was inevitable he would go, but rather hoped it would be after another season. It's just the way of the world, I guess - players hold all the cards and they constantly have agents whispering in their ear about bigger clubs, bigger salary and bonuses and the prospect of European football.

Villa is just another one of the feeder clubs for the top 4-5 now, as much as it pains me to say it....
I for one wish he would go to Chelsea and we get Lukaku in exchange wink
A deal with Lukaku would be magical business, which ofcourse means it's never going to happen. He's a top striker too, nearly on a par with Benteke's goal scoring last term.

I hope we get one more season from Benteke, but it doesn't seem likely. All agents are after is money and how do they earn it? Getting their clients transfers. His agent fee would be huge on a deal like this with a likely transfer fee of £20M-£25M. Cha-fking-ching.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Lurking Lawyer said:
Villa is just another one of the feeder clubs for the top 4-5 now, as much as it pains me to say it....
The current strategy of giving young players a chance while paying relatively low wages is always going to end in this. Those who don't perform at the high levels needed to get Villa at the top end of the table will stay those who prove themselves on the pitch will do their best to get to a bigger/higher paying club.

I can't see how the currently strategy of focusing on youth is going to improve the quality of the team on the pitch, although it may lead to a healthier balance sheet.

Even if we aren't willing/able to pay large transfer fees I think there is a need to pay large wages to retain talent.

V8TVR

785 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Fittster said:
The current strategy of giving young players a chance while paying relatively low wages is always going to end in this. Those who don't perform at the high levels needed to get Villa at the top end of the table will stay those who prove themselves on the pitch will do their best to get to a bigger/higher paying club.

I can't see how the currently strategy of focusing on youth is going to improve the quality of the team on the pitch, although it may lead to a healthier balance sheet.

Even if we aren't willing/able to pay large transfer fees I think there is a need to pay large wages to retain talent.
I have to be honest and say i would rather be a Villa fan than a Man City/Chelsea fan any day, at least a vast majority of the Villa Supporters genuinely follow the club and have an affiliation to it, where as that probably only applies to 10-15% of the above mention clubs the balance of those supporters probably have never stood on a terrace on a wet cold night in November.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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ohhhhhhhhhhh Christian Benteke

Black can man

31,847 posts

169 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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NoNeed said:
ohhhhhhhhhhh Christian Benteke
Congrats on keeping your star man , I really thought we would get him




Good luck for the coming season.

MadMullah

Original Poster:

5,265 posts

194 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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i dont think he would've left for anyone but the top clubs - when he saw he wasnt in any of the radar he's seen better

i just hope this hasnt distracted him.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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His new contract runs to 2017, is that a one year more than his previous deal?

Lurking Lawyer

4,534 posts

226 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Yes, I think so.

Although in reality it's a bit of an irrelevance - he will doubtless have at least doubled his salary, which is probably of more interest to him. Length of unexpired contract is a bit by-the-by once a player decides he wants out.......

I still think he'll be off this time next year if he has a decent World Cup.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Lurking Lawyer said:
Yes, I think so.

Although in reality it's a bit of an irrelevance - he will doubtless have at least doubled his salary, which is probably of more interest to him. Length of unexpired contract is a bit by-the-by once a player decides he wants out.......

I still think he'll be off this time next year if he has a decent World Cup.
Another season like the last one and a decent world cup and we will be talking £50 Million + for him.

Spanna

3,732 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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NoNeed said:
Lurking Lawyer said:
Yes, I think so.

Although in reality it's a bit of an irrelevance - he will doubtless have at least doubled his salary, which is probably of more interest to him. Length of unexpired contract is a bit by-the-by once a player decides he wants out.......

I still think he'll be off this time next year if he has a decent World Cup.
Another season like the last one and a decent world cup and we will be talking £50 Million + for him.
I don't think he'll be worth quite that much, more like £30M than £50M I would think. Really happy he's signed on though and seriously surprised too.

Spurs missing out on David Villa and now Benteke because of going in a bit lack lustre. Wonder what Gareth Bale is thinking, no top quality recruits yet and two players not joining. There's still a long time to go in this transfer window.

Ijm

34,302 posts

218 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Spanna said:
Wonder what Gareth Bale is thinking, no top quality recruits yet and two players not joining.
laugh

What, Brazil's current flavour of the month and voted 3rd best player at the confederations cup isn't a top quality recruit?!?!

rofl

Wow, Villa's standards have risen dramatically while I wasn't watching...

Spanna

3,732 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Ijm said:
Spanna said:
Wonder what Gareth Bale is thinking, no top quality recruits yet and two players not joining.
laugh

What, Brazil's current flavour of the month and voted 3rd best player at the confederations cup isn't a top quality recruit?!?!

rofl

Wow, Villa's standards have risen dramatically while I wasn't watching...
Forgot about Paulinho for a moment there. He's certainly very good, but you guys need strikers.

We've managed to keep our man of the moment, I think yours will get his head turned before the transfer window is over.

Our standards have dropped way below that of O'Neill's time in charge where we were in a similar positon to you nearly squeezing a fourth spot and performing consistently through the season.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Spanna said:
I don't think he'll be worth quite that much, more like £30M than £50M I would think. Really happy he's signed on though and seriously surprised too.

Spurs missing out on David Villa and now Benteke because of going in a bit lack lustre. Wonder what Gareth Bale is thinking, no top quality recruits yet and two players not joining. There's still a long time to go in this transfer window.
That carrol bloke from Newcastle fetched £35 Million on that score alone Benteke is worth £50 Million lol when you look how much torres went for you can't say he wouldn't be worth it if he carries on the way he started.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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Shall we have a league position prediction guessing game.

I'm going for 5th and that's not just wishful thinking. Now we have kept the beast and added some more quality to the team the excellent football we played towards the end of the season can carry on into the new season. Also our young lions have now got some very good experience of premiership pressure behind them.

I don't think we will have many clean sheets or my prediction would have been top 4hehe

I am so confident I will donate £1 to charity for every place we finish below my predicted position.biggrin

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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Can't really see why it won't be more of the same as last season. Where you finish in the league is closely related to the wages you pay.

V8TVR

785 posts

254 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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Fittster said:
Can't really see why it won't be more of the same as last season. Where you finish in the league is closely related to the wages you pay.
You think ? Newcastle ? QPR ? Sunderland an then there is WBA Swansea Norwich and Everton all in the top half ?

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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V8TVR said:
Fittster said:
Can't really see why it won't be more of the same as last season. Where you finish in the league is closely related to the wages you pay.
You think ? Newcastle ? QPR ? Sunderland an then there is WBA Swansea Norwich and Everton all in the top half ?
Yes.

http://soccermetrica.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/premie...

Although Villa are a club under performing when you look at the wage bill, so that's a sign of hope, however the current strategy at the club is to reduce it.


V8TVR

785 posts

254 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Fittster said:
Yes.

http://soccermetrica.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/premie...

Although Villa are a club under performing when you look at the wage bill, so that's a sign of hope, however the current strategy at the club is to reduce it.
i may be wrong but i am pretty sure those figures are for 2012 season