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PurpleAki said:
This is the only stat that matters:-
This season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
You're implying that Vardy is the problem, whereas the stats linked to suggest that the problem lies elsewhere, likely in the service that he's (not) been gettingThis season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
antspants said:
I'm absolutely gutted, but... if whoever comes in next saves us from relegation will we salute the owners for a good decision? Mind you if the reverse happens everybody will be slating Leicester (even more than now) for this decision 
I'm shocked at the timing! I thought last nights result and the fact we're still in with a chance of progressing to the next stage of CL would mean he'd at least be around until that game, and really thought he deserved at least that.
But I didn't see him being able to get us out of the mess we're in. Questionable tactics at times, a seeming inability to motivate players, and complete unwillingness (or misplaced loyalty) to drop out of form players.
My head tells me it's the right decision, but my heart tells me he gave me some of the most memorable moments of my life and I really wanted him to turn it around
I agree with this - and the players that have been coasting should be ashamed.....I'm shocked at the timing! I thought last nights result and the fact we're still in with a chance of progressing to the next stage of CL would mean he'd at least be around until that game, and really thought he deserved at least that.
But I didn't see him being able to get us out of the mess we're in. Questionable tactics at times, a seeming inability to motivate players, and complete unwillingness (or misplaced loyalty) to drop out of form players.
My head tells me it's the right decision, but my heart tells me he gave me some of the most memorable moments of my life and I really wanted him to turn it around
smn159 said:
PurpleAki said:
This is the only stat that matters:-
This season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
You're implying that Vardy is the problem, whereas the stats linked to suggest that the problem lies elsewhere, likely in the service that he's (not) been gettingThis season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
And I never said he was the ONLY problem.
egor110 said:
Before last season any of the directors would of said so.
Last year you fluked the premier title ( and what a awesome ride that was for the whole club and it's fans) but it was just a fluke and wasn't going to last.
A one off yes but to call it a fluke is ignorance in the extreme and highly disrespectful. The whole point of a league system is that the winner deserves the trophy. It's a test of form over 38 games and Leicester not only did it but with 10 points to spare. Completely worthy of the title of Champions IMO. Last year you fluked the premier title ( and what a awesome ride that was for the whole club and it's fans) but it was just a fluke and wasn't going to last.
PurpleAki said:
smn159 said:
PurpleAki said:
This is the only stat that matters:-
This season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
You're implying that Vardy is the problem, whereas the stats linked to suggest that the problem lies elsewhere, likely in the service that he's (not) been gettingThis season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
And I never said he was the ONLY problem.
RaymondVanDerDon said:
egor110 said:
Before last season any of the directors would of said so.
Last year you fluked the premier title ( and what a awesome ride that was for the whole club and it's fans) but it was just a fluke and wasn't going to last.
A one off yes but to call it a fluke is ignorance in the extreme and highly disrespectful. The whole point of a league system is that the winner deserves the trophy. It's a test of form over 38 games and Leicester not only did it but with 10 points to spare. Completely worthy of the title of Champions IMO. Last year you fluked the premier title ( and what a awesome ride that was for the whole club and it's fans) but it was just a fluke and wasn't going to last.
Nobody wins a league title, any league, any sport, played over 38 games by luck or fluke.
IMO last season was a unique case of a set of players, previously largely unheralded, collectively hitting their peak in terms of both ability and form. You sometimes see this with individual players who have a season that defines their career but very rarely, if ever, does it happen for a whole team/squad. The same could be said for Ranieri himself, a season where everything he did worked, all the teams he picked won.
A perfect storm, if you like, but not luck or fluke. This season was always going to be a struggle, what with CL games in the mix as well as the pressure of trying to match last seasons endeavours in the PL.
IMO Ranieri earned the right to manage the club wherever it went for years to come.
If someone were to offer me a PL title for my club but the price would be relegation the following season, I'd bite their arm off at the shoulder.
IMO last season was a unique case of a set of players, previously largely unheralded, collectively hitting their peak in terms of both ability and form. You sometimes see this with individual players who have a season that defines their career but very rarely, if ever, does it happen for a whole team/squad. The same could be said for Ranieri himself, a season where everything he did worked, all the teams he picked won.
A perfect storm, if you like, but not luck or fluke. This season was always going to be a struggle, what with CL games in the mix as well as the pressure of trying to match last seasons endeavours in the PL.
IMO Ranieri earned the right to manage the club wherever it went for years to come.
If someone were to offer me a PL title for my club but the price would be relegation the following season, I'd bite their arm off at the shoulder.
History has been written.
He took them to the top, they will forever be 2016 PL Champions. It cannot be taken away. It's in the history books, it's a legend that we will still talk about In Thirty years time.
And he hasn't taken them down.....
What if they progress in the CL? What if they had pulled off another great escape under him? Too soon Leicester, too soon.
He took them to the top, they will forever be 2016 PL Champions. It cannot be taken away. It's in the history books, it's a legend that we will still talk about In Thirty years time.
And he hasn't taken them down.....
What if they progress in the CL? What if they had pulled off another great escape under him? Too soon Leicester, too soon.
Hammer67 said:
Nobody wins a league title, any league, any sport, played over 38 games by luck or fluke.
IMO last season was a unique case of a set of players, previously largely unheralded, collectively hitting their peak in terms of both ability and form. You sometimes see this with individual players who have a season that defines their career but very rarely, if ever, does it happen for a whole team/squad. The same could be said for Ranieri himself, a season where everything he did worked, all the teams he picked won.
A perfect storm, if you like, but not luck or fluke. This season was always going to be a struggle, what with CL games in the mix as well as the pressure of trying to match last seasons endeavours in the PL.
I agree with all of this, perfect storm is the perfect way to describe itIMO last season was a unique case of a set of players, previously largely unheralded, collectively hitting their peak in terms of both ability and form. You sometimes see this with individual players who have a season that defines their career but very rarely, if ever, does it happen for a whole team/squad. The same could be said for Ranieri himself, a season where everything he did worked, all the teams he picked won.
A perfect storm, if you like, but not luck or fluke. This season was always going to be a struggle, what with CL games in the mix as well as the pressure of trying to match last seasons endeavours in the PL.
Hammer67 said:
IMO Ranieri earned the right to manage the club wherever it went for years to come.
But don't agree with this. One person is not bigger than the club and with the money involved I don't think the owners had much choice, recently we've looked nailed on for relegation and he hasn't looked like he knows how to resolve it. Doesn't stop me being very disappointed by the decision, nor shocked by the timing, he deserved that 2nd leg tie and if we were successful the one after that imo.
Hammer67 said:
If someone were to offer me a PL title for my club but the price would be relegation the following season, I'd bite their arm off at the shoulder.
Yep so would I have done, happily. Didn't expect it to happen again but didn't expect the abject collapse this year. I hate that all the blame seems to be being shouldered upon CR, but you can't sack a whole team, unfortunately! BrabusMog said:
PurpleAki said:
smn159 said:
PurpleAki said:
This is the only stat that matters:-
This season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
You're implying that Vardy is the problem, whereas the stats linked to suggest that the problem lies elsewhere, likely in the service that he's (not) been gettingThis season he has only five league goals, three of which came in one game against Manchester City, and has scored in only one league game since 10 September - a run of 17 matches.
And I never said he was the ONLY problem.
At no point did I solely blame him. Football is a squad game and they all let their boss down.
You mentioned logic. Logic has no place in football!
PurpleAki said:
A strikers currency is goals.
And I never said he was the ONLY problem.
You're right he hasn't performed but that's not just in goals, because he hasn't had the service, but in his general lack of effort. And I never said he was the ONLY problem.
How often last year did we see him sprinting after defenders pressuring them into making mistakes, chasing lost causes to put teams under pressure at the back and stop them playing. That's gone this year, but can you blame him for not making those runs when the service he's getting is dogs
t? When your defenders lump long balls into the air for you to win headers against CB's 6 inches taller than you, I think I'd get a bit despondent as well It's a collective failure, it's not just Vardy's or Ranieri's fault, it's all of them - apart from Schmeichel and Gray they've done fine
ETA - you've just said the same above
Hammer67 said:
Nobody wins a league title, any league, any sport, played over 38 games by luck or fluke.
IMO last season was a unique case of a set of players, previously largely unheralded, collectively hitting their peak in terms of both ability and form. You sometimes see this with individual players who have a season that defines their career but very rarely, if ever, does it happen for a whole team/squad. The same could be said for Ranieri himself, a season where everything he did worked, all the teams he picked won.
A perfect storm, if you like, but not luck or fluke. This season was always going to be a struggle, what with CL games in the mix as well as the pressure of trying to match last seasons endeavours in the PL.
IMO Ranieri earned the right to manage the club wherever it went for years to come.
If someone were to offer me a PL title for my club but the price would be relegation the following season, I'd bite their arm off at the shoulder.
Yup IMO last season was a unique case of a set of players, previously largely unheralded, collectively hitting their peak in terms of both ability and form. You sometimes see this with individual players who have a season that defines their career but very rarely, if ever, does it happen for a whole team/squad. The same could be said for Ranieri himself, a season where everything he did worked, all the teams he picked won.
A perfect storm, if you like, but not luck or fluke. This season was always going to be a struggle, what with CL games in the mix as well as the pressure of trying to match last seasons endeavours in the PL.
IMO Ranieri earned the right to manage the club wherever it went for years to come.
If someone were to offer me a PL title for my club but the price would be relegation the following season, I'd bite their arm off at the shoulder.
Villa fan, I'd have happily taken a PL title and a CL slot before going down last year (and possibly again this year). As someone else said, if they really couldn't give tinkerman more time, they should have moved him sideways, given him an honourary title and built a statue; shame on them.I am devastated for him personally but this is the correct decision.
Easy enough to say 'it's modern football or it's a disgrace' when you're not watching your club play st week in week out. Yes the players should be ashamed, but it's a lot easier to sack one man than to get rid of a whole squad. Ask any Leicester what position we needed to fill in January and they would have said CB, but we decided to sign a young lad on loan with 'potential'. With rumours of unrest in the dressing room, players not celebrating our goal on the bench yesterday, Claudio changes the routines of the players and the training, not giving certain players a chance (Gray) and then bullstting us in the media telling us the players are fighting. He also spent 80m in the summer, we are the premier league champions and we spent 80m and we are 17th.
I personally think Rudkin needs to be fked off as well, what he does for his money I'll never know, likewise the head scout/head of recruitment, useless.
He'll forever be rememebered as a legend and I hope a statue gets built as he deserves it. It's a shame it had to end like this.
This is copied from another forum I posted it on. Anyone who thinks that it's a stupid decision or that we should be grateful for being in 17th position is out of touch. Try paying £100 travelling to watch them every weekend and being blessed with some of the performances that we've produced.
Easy enough to say 'it's modern football or it's a disgrace' when you're not watching your club play s
t week in week out. Yes the players should be ashamed, but it's a lot easier to sack one man than to get rid of a whole squad. Ask any Leicester what position we needed to fill in January and they would have said CB, but we decided to sign a young lad on loan with 'potential'. With rumours of unrest in the dressing room, players not celebrating our goal on the bench yesterday, Claudio changes the routines of the players and the training, not giving certain players a chance (Gray) and then bullstting us in the media telling us the players are fighting. He also spent 80m in the summer, we are the premier league champions and we spent 80m and we are 17th.I personally think Rudkin needs to be f
ked off as well, what he does for his money I'll never know, likewise the head scout/head of recruitment, useless.He'll forever be rememebered as a legend and I hope a statue gets built as he deserves it. It's a shame it had to end like this.
This is copied from another forum I posted it on. Anyone who thinks that it's a stupid decision or that we should be grateful for being in 17th position is out of touch. Try paying £100 travelling to watch them every weekend and being blessed with some of the performances that we've produced.
TheChampers said:
Yup Villa fan, I'd have happily taken a PL title and a CL slot before going down last year (and possibly again this year). As someone else said, if they really couldn't give tinkerman more time, they should have moved him sideways, given him an honourary title and built a statue; shame on them.
Agree, the players have really let the club, manager and supporters down this year, they should be ashamed. Villa fan, I'd have happily taken a PL title and a CL slot before going down last year (and possibly again this year). As someone else said, if they really couldn't give tinkerman more time, they should have moved him sideways, given him an honourary title and built a statue; shame on them.It's not Ranieri who's the problem, it's the players. Most of those players would be forever kicking around the lower leagues, Championship at best, if it hadn't been for Ranieri - he made them superstars, national names - and whatever they now do in the game will always be achieved on the back of what Ranieri did for them.
If you go down, so what? - that's where Leicester always have been and always will be - a yo-yo club, bouncing between leagues. In fact, going down and getting a parachute payment may actually be for the best. Especially if some of the underperforming prima-donnas decide they want out and are replaced by players with a point to prove.
I'm sure a few years ago you'd have taken a title and relegation over the continued tedium of the lower-mid table / relegation battle you usually get.
If you go down, so what? - that's where Leicester always have been and always will be - a yo-yo club, bouncing between leagues. In fact, going down and getting a parachute payment may actually be for the best. Especially if some of the underperforming prima-donnas decide they want out and are replaced by players with a point to prove.
I'm sure a few years ago you'd have taken a title and relegation over the continued tedium of the lower-mid table / relegation battle you usually get.
Leicester Loyal said:
I am devastated for him personally but this is the correct decision.
Easy enough to say 'it's modern football or it's a disgrace' when you're not watching your club play st week in week out. Yes the players should be ashamed, but it's a lot easier to sack one man than to get rid of a whole squad. Ask any Leicester what position we needed to fill in January and they would have said CB, but we decided to sign a young lad on loan with 'potential'. With rumours of unrest in the dressing room, players not celebrating our goal on the bench yesterday, Claudio changes the routines of the players and the training, not giving certain players a chance (Gray) and then bullstting us in the media telling us the players are fighting. He also spent 80m in the summer, we are the premier league champions and we spent 80m and we are 17th.
I personally think Rudkin needs to be fked off as well, what he does for his money I'll never know, likewise the head scout/head of recruitment, useless.
He'll forever be rememebered as a legend and I hope a statue gets built as he deserves it. It's a shame it had to end like this.
This is copied from another forum I posted it on. Anyone who thinks that it's a stupid decision or that we should be grateful for being in 17th position is out of touch. Try paying £100 travelling to watch them every weekend and being blessed with some of the performances that we've produced.
You are joking surely? You sound like a council living chav who won the lottery and nine months later sacked the butler for spilling the champers on Chardonnay's prom dress.Easy enough to say 'it's modern football or it's a disgrace' when you're not watching your club play s
t week in week out. Yes the players should be ashamed, but it's a lot easier to sack one man than to get rid of a whole squad. Ask any Leicester what position we needed to fill in January and they would have said CB, but we decided to sign a young lad on loan with 'potential'. With rumours of unrest in the dressing room, players not celebrating our goal on the bench yesterday, Claudio changes the routines of the players and the training, not giving certain players a chance (Gray) and then bullstting us in the media telling us the players are fighting. He also spent 80m in the summer, we are the premier league champions and we spent 80m and we are 17th.I personally think Rudkin needs to be f
ked off as well, what he does for his money I'll never know, likewise the head scout/head of recruitment, useless.He'll forever be rememebered as a legend and I hope a statue gets built as he deserves it. It's a shame it had to end like this.
This is copied from another forum I posted it on. Anyone who thinks that it's a stupid decision or that we should be grateful for being in 17th position is out of touch. Try paying £100 travelling to watch them every weekend and being blessed with some of the performances that we've produced.
Leicester Loyal said:
I am devastated for him personally but this is the correct decision.
Easy enough to say 'it's modern football or it's a disgrace' when you're not watching your club play st week in week out. Yes the players should be ashamed, but it's a lot easier to sack one man than to get rid of a whole squad. Ask any Leicester what position we needed to fill in January and they would have said CB, but we decided to sign a young lad on loan with 'potential'. With rumours of unrest in the dressing room, players not celebrating our goal on the bench yesterday, Claudio changes the routines of the players and the training, not giving certain players a chance (Gray) and then bullstting us in the media telling us the players are fighting. He also spent 80m in the summer, we are the premier league champions and we spent 80m and we are 17th.
I personally think Rudkin needs to be fked off as well, what he does for his money I'll never know, likewise the head scout/head of recruitment, useless.
He'll forever be rememebered as a legend and I hope a statue gets built as he deserves it. It's a shame it had to end like this.
This is copied from another forum I posted it on. Anyone who thinks that it's a stupid decision or that we should be grateful for being in 17th position is out of touch. Try paying £100 travelling to watch them every weekend and being blessed with some of the performances that we've produced.
Whilst I get some of the sentiment, you would probably be a Championship club this season, and would probably never have lived to see your team lift the EPL and get into the last 16 of the Champions' League. An amazing, once in a lifetime achievement. Easy enough to say 'it's modern football or it's a disgrace' when you're not watching your club play s
t week in week out. Yes the players should be ashamed, but it's a lot easier to sack one man than to get rid of a whole squad. Ask any Leicester what position we needed to fill in January and they would have said CB, but we decided to sign a young lad on loan with 'potential'. With rumours of unrest in the dressing room, players not celebrating our goal on the bench yesterday, Claudio changes the routines of the players and the training, not giving certain players a chance (Gray) and then bullstting us in the media telling us the players are fighting. He also spent 80m in the summer, we are the premier league champions and we spent 80m and we are 17th.I personally think Rudkin needs to be f
ked off as well, what he does for his money I'll never know, likewise the head scout/head of recruitment, useless.He'll forever be rememebered as a legend and I hope a statue gets built as he deserves it. It's a shame it had to end like this.
This is copied from another forum I posted it on. Anyone who thinks that it's a stupid decision or that we should be grateful for being in 17th position is out of touch. Try paying £100 travelling to watch them every weekend and being blessed with some of the performances that we've produced.
He should have been given the job for life. Stupid decision, and terrible timing. I'd be saying the same thing if it were my team.
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