The Official Glasgow Rangers Thread

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Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Kakopetria said:
Driver 101 Your last sentence just about sums you up
How very mature.

What was the point of you joining the forum to offer absolutely nothing?

Isn't school back tomorrow?

Kakopetria

202 posts

106 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Oh dear,permission to speak sir

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Kakopetria said:
Oh dear,permission to speak sir
I've asked you a few questions and wanted to hear your opinions. So far you've offered nothing apart from being awkward and childish.

You've made the effort to join a car forum to post on this thread.

What is the point you want to put over? For the third time, what bile have I posted?

If you've nothing sensible or worthwhile saying, don't waste your time as I won't waste any more time with you.

Kakopetria

202 posts

106 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Well it's my time to waste ,but I understand if you don't want to talk to me after all I'm a Glasgow Rangers supporter
Make sure you get the last word now

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Another example of why Scottish Football is being slowly destroyed by those in power.

Money made from the games at Ibrox:


Money split between the top 5 in the SPHell (who weren't even involved in these play-off games remember)


Now you see why Rangers only wanted to charge £5. Nothing to do with attracting fans, it was because they knew the despicable plans of those in positions of power so held firm on their stance despite being challenged by the SPFL.

If we had backed down and charged £20 a ticket like the SPFL wanted, this would have been the result:


Guess that proves a lot of the obsessed hordes wrong in their research of all things Rangers. "Youse charged £5 to attract fans, haha, youse are st" blah blah blah blah blah.

You guys are obviously not being obsessed enough. Must. Try. Harder.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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So it cost new rangers circa £150k to charge £5?

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! rofl

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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It was always a toss up to see who replied first, you or Driver.

Do you literally just monitor this thread all day waiting for a new post?

Get a life dude. Get a life.

Cie

18,752 posts

192 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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fk me, every time I open this thread (big mistake) it's always some thicky saying Rangers fans are obsessed with Celtic, or a Celtic fan being a knob.

Pathetic as each other I'd say.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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WithMyApologies said:
Another example of why Scottish Football is being slowly destroyed by those in power.

Money made from the games at Ibrox:


Money split between the top 5 in the SPHell (who weren't even involved in these play-off games remember)


Now you see why Rangers only wanted to charge £5. Nothing to do with attracting fans, it was because they knew the despicable plans of those in positions of power so held firm on their stance despite being challenged by the SPFL.

If we had backed down and charged £20 a ticket like the SPFL wanted, this would have been the result:


Guess that proves a lot of the obsessed hordes wrong in their research of all things Rangers. "Youse charged £5 to attract fans, haha, youse are st" blah blah blah blah blah.

You guys are obviously not being obsessed enough. Must. Try. Harder.
Who said they only charged £5 to attract fans? I don't beleive anyone said that as most people knew what the motive was. You're just making things up again.

They are actually deemed Premiership games as they are for entry to the Premiership.

This was voted for and accepted by the teams when the play offs were introduced. Rangers were excluded from voting as new members to the league they didn't have rights to vote.

It was only when a few of the teams realised they'd be the teams in the playoff did they have an issue with the system. They were happy to agree when they thought they would benefit, but when they realised they would lose, they had an issue. Double standards.

They should never have introduced the play off in the structure they did. At worst 2nd bottom maybe play 2nd top, but the play offs were introduced as this situation could be forseen as happening. It was a safety net for Rangers who the league have bent the rules to help time and time again.

Personally I don't agree that they should pay gate money to other teams, but that was what the teams themselves happily agreed.

You do however realise that the gate money was split as a percentage with the home team getting the lion's share? Yes it would mean Rangers have to give away more, but it would mean they would get far more cash that they are absolutely desperate for.

Cutting your nose off to spite your face is the case here.

That's the problem with too many Rangers people. They are more concerned with harming other clubs that benefitting their own club and they call others obsessed.

For the first few years Rangers fans predicted armageddon expecting Scottish football to collapse without them. It's prospered without them and the fans can't handle that.

Remember once the money is split, it's chicken feed to many clubs that concern you.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 26th May 21:40


Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 26th May 21:41

BigsimonY

616 posts

124 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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on a lighter note, really looking forward to Thursday. This will be a real tough 2 games. Im not sure why Street is not getting a game as he is fit, Jig is murder and i thing Street would be a better bet in a 5-3-2 formation.
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Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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WithMyApologies said:
It was always a toss up to see who replied first, you or Driver.

Do you literally just monitor this thread all day waiting for a new post?

Get a life dude. Get a life.
It pops up on the list of unread posts.

Why is there countless Rangers fans on this thread that keep coming up with weak arguments, yet when a very obvious and fair point comes back, you spit the dummy?

You posted that information expecting a response. Now you've got a response that highlights your point is daft, you've gone all defensive again.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Driver101 said:
Who said they only charged £5 to attract fans? I don't beleive anyone said that as most people knew what the motive was. You're just making things up again.
You. Pretty much insinuated right here, 2 pages back...

Driver101 said:
It was only £5 against Hibs in a game of huge importance, still only 41,000 turned up.
The cheap price wasn't to attract fans. Yet, that's what you posted.

I'm out. You guys are mental. Why spend your life posting about a team you don't even support? I literally do not understand that mentality.

moanthebairns

17,918 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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What I find amusing is people now pointing out the inequalities in the lower leagues and even outside the old firm like it's something new.

I don't remember such an outcry when falkirk finished second and they decided to cut it down to one automatic promotion from the 1st. Or when we won the league and we're denied promotion again due to needing a 10,000 seater stadium and unable to ground share.

Rangers and hibs voted for st like this for years. Burn in hell you bds.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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WithMyApologies said:
The cheap price wasn't to attract fans. Yet, that's what you posted.

I'm out. You guys are mental. Why spend your life posting about a team you don't even support? I literally do not understand that mentality.
Read that again, tell me where it says the price was cheap to attract fans? You're again reading things that haven't been said. I insinuated nothing of the sort.

I knew why the price was cheap and clarified that above, yet you're still arguing what you thought I meant.The fact it was £5 and a significant game, I think 41,000 is a poor crowd.

I've posted a fair amount in this thread, but the majority of the posts are in response to deluded posts aimed at me.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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WithMyApologies said:
The cheap price wasn't to attract fans. Yet, that's what you posted.

I'm out. You guys are mental. Why spend your life posting about a team you don't even support? I literally do not understand that mentality.
The demise of Rangers gave me great pleasure and the turmoil of new rangers makes me smile so here is another one just for you. rofl

technodup

7,576 posts

129 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Driver101 said:
For the first few years Rangers fans predicted armageddon expecting Scottish football to collapse without them. It's prospered without them and the fans can't handle that.
You must have a different definition for prosper to mine.

Full stadia? Nope
Clubs making record profits? Barely. Most are debt free due to some inventive accounting and write-offs.
Transfer fees paid to attract better players? Nope.
Decent European runs? Nope.
4 way race to the title? Nope, although the sheep made a semi decent fist of it for a while.
Lucrative TV deal? Nope.
Title sponsor? Yes but only just after several years without.
Scottish Cup sponsor? Yes but only after several years without (I'm not counting government initiatives).
Showpiece Cup Final sold out? Don't know. I know they've reduced prices all round to try to fill it.

Slag Rangers all you like but get real. Scottish football is insipid pish played in front of half empty wee stadiums. The real Premiership is what I'd call prospering.

I'm not saying Rangers getting back will solve this btw, it won't the state we're in. But to say we can't handle the 'success' of the SPL? Come on, virtually no Rangers fan cares about any other team bar Celtic.

Either way Rangers have given me enough nights like Leeds Utd, Parma, PSV and Stuttgart and days like helicopter Sunday and Manchester 08 to keep me going a while yet.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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technodup said:
ou must have a different definition for prosper to mine.

Full stadia? Nope
Clubs making record profits? Barely. Most are debt free due to some inventive accounting and write-offs.
Transfer fees paid to attract better players? Nope.
Decent European runs? Nope.
4 way race to the title? Nope, although the sheep made a semi decent fist of it for a while.
Lucrative TV deal? Nope.
Title sponsor? Yes but only just after several years without.
Scottish Cup sponsor? Yes but only after several years without (I'm not counting government initiatives).
Showpiece Cup Final sold out? Don't know. I know they've reduced prices all round to try to fill it.

Slag Rangers all you like but get real. Scottish football is insipid pish played in front of half empty wee stadiums. The real Premiership is what I'd call prospering.

I'm not saying Rangers getting back will solve this btw, it won't the state we're in. But to say we can't handle the 'success' of the SPL? Come on, virtually no Rangers fan cares about any other team bar Celtic.

Either way Rangers have given me enough nights like Leeds Utd, Parma, PSV and Stuttgart and days like helicopter Sunday and Manchester 08 to keep me going a while yet.

You're getting way ahead of yourself trying to emphasise a point.

Grounds are never going to be at bursting point. We've too many teams for our small population. Average crowds for many teams are up. That's without having Rangers away support there twice a season to boost it.

More people per head of population go to Scottish games than English.

Many clubs are financially better off. That's with the loss of the sponsorship money. We've lost the sponsorship money as companies are too scared to upset one half of the old firm. Just look at the abuse many have taken over the last few years with Rangers fans boycotting and writing threatening and abusive letters.

Do you wonder why they've pulled out of Scottish football?

Rangers are part of Scottish football and this hits them too. Arguably it will hit them more than anyone.

As soon as Rangers fans realise they need the Scottish football league more than the league needs them, maybe they can attempt to be more constructive than destructive. The damage they attempt to inflict will bring them down in many senses.

A European run for a Scottish team? Success for Scotland is Celtic getting to the group stages of the Champions League and any other team getting a few Europa league games. That's not going to drastically improve in the short term.

Half the problem with Scottish football is the amount of people who knock it down. If people supported their local teams we wouldn't have half the problems we have now.

Yes the English game is doing well, but they are falling behind on the football field. Their top teams are miles behind the top teams in Europe.

Would you really make an effort to watch West Ham V Sunderland, Burnley V QPR in England? Me neither. Take the top few teams out of England and interest dwindles just like any country. A lot of the bottom teams in England only feature on the TV in a few games as there is little external interest.

Scottish teams have barely had money to spend on transfers. The problem was they were brining in loads of third rate foreigners. Now they are being a bit more sensible and developing home grown talent. I really hope that works as it should. Football fans had been calling for that for years.

We're never going to be world beaters in Scotland, we need to accept that. However ask the majority of Scottish supporters if the game has improved and they'll say yes.

The national team also has had a good period too.

As for the cup final, it sometimes happens that the old firm won't be part of it. Celtic hardly won it every year, whilst Rangers have little chance of making the final in their state. There was always the chance it could be two smaller teams.

I'll be watching it and not knocking it like others.

moanthebairns

17,918 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Hello
Hello
It's two nil to motherwell don't you.

Kaj91

4,705 posts

120 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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1-3 FT

Not looking good for Newco.

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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