The Official Liverpool Thread, Volume 3
Discussion
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
How the hell can you claim he was given a fair crack of the whip, that's just ridiculous. He had no money there was boardroom unrest, so no he didn't have a fair crack of the whip. He should have given more time, history tells us this is justified, just look at your rivals up the road under Ferguson.
He may ultimately have failed given the time, however he deserved the chance to stamp his authority on the club.
Raja said:
the problem with playing him and Spearing as a midfield 2 is that there just isn't the consistent quality or consistency in passing the ball forwards.
One of our biggest issues we've had this year, in my opinion is the lack of intelligence and most importantly the lack of attacking play from our midfield. By this I mean, how many times have our midfielders bombed forward to support Suarez or Carrol and take men with them and creating space in defence or following up on saved/ post hitting shot? Or how many times has Downing etc put a cross in and there been no midfielders busting a gut to get in to a danger area? They seem far too happy to be content with hit and hope shots from 30 yards.
Things Roy Did Wrong.
Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
And don't forget the episode with Koncheskeys mum.. (yes i know not roys fault but he bought the guy)
Ultimately the guy did have it hard though. Employed by the yank cowboys, very little to spend and results weren't going his way whilst we the fans were ultimately very angry at the way the old yanks were running us into the ground. However we will never really know if Roy would have eventually worked out well for us so lets stop living in the past and focus on the future! we are playing decent football and creating plenty of chances, we just need to put some in the back of the net and we should be competing for top 6+ next season.
Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
And don't forget the episode with Koncheskeys mum.. (yes i know not roys fault but he bought the guy)
Ultimately the guy did have it hard though. Employed by the yank cowboys, very little to spend and results weren't going his way whilst we the fans were ultimately very angry at the way the old yanks were running us into the ground. However we will never really know if Roy would have eventually worked out well for us so lets stop living in the past and focus on the future! we are playing decent football and creating plenty of chances, we just need to put some in the back of the net and we should be competing for top 6+ next season.
tux said:
Things Roy Did Wrong.
Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
And don't forget the episode with Koncheskeys mum.. (yes i know not roys fault but he bought the guy)
Ultimately the guy did have it hard though. Employed by the yank cowboys, very little to spend and results weren't going his way whilst we the fans were ultimately very angry at the way the old yanks were running us into the ground. However we will never really know if Roy would have eventually worked out well for us so lets stop living in the past and focus on the future! we are playing decent football and creating plenty of chances, we just need to put some in the back of the net and we should be competing for top 6+ next season.
How dare you come on this thread and speak sense!!!! Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
And don't forget the episode with Koncheskeys mum.. (yes i know not roys fault but he bought the guy)
Ultimately the guy did have it hard though. Employed by the yank cowboys, very little to spend and results weren't going his way whilst we the fans were ultimately very angry at the way the old yanks were running us into the ground. However we will never really know if Roy would have eventually worked out well for us so lets stop living in the past and focus on the future! we are playing decent football and creating plenty of chances, we just need to put some in the back of the net and we should be competing for top 6+ next season.
tux said:
Things Roy Did Wrong.
Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
And don't forget the episode with Koncheskeys mum.. (yes i know not roys fault but he bought the guy)
Ultimately the guy did have it hard though. Employed by the yank cowboys, very little to spend and results weren't going his way whilst we the fans were ultimately very angry at the way the old yanks were running us into the ground. However we will never really know if Roy would have eventually worked out well for us so lets stop living in the past and focus on the future! we are playing decent football and creating plenty of chances, we just need to put some in the back of the net and we should be competing for top 6+ next season.
He has got his team 6 points off of Liverpool this season though Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
And don't forget the episode with Koncheskeys mum.. (yes i know not roys fault but he bought the guy)
Ultimately the guy did have it hard though. Employed by the yank cowboys, very little to spend and results weren't going his way whilst we the fans were ultimately very angry at the way the old yanks were running us into the ground. However we will never really know if Roy would have eventually worked out well for us so lets stop living in the past and focus on the future! we are playing decent football and creating plenty of chances, we just need to put some in the back of the net and we should be competing for top 6+ next season.
So he has got some things right
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
How the hell can you claim he was given a fair crack of the whip, that's just ridiculous. He had no money there was boardroom unrest, so no he didn't have a fair crack of the whip. He should have given more time, history tells us this is justified, just look at your rivals up the road under Ferguson.
He may ultimately have failed given the time, however he deserved the chance to stamp his authority on the club.
The other stuff was unfortunate for him but that's another discussion completely.
Roy given a fair crack by the fans. Yes another bit of revisionism there.
I don't recall ever sat at anfield listening to the Kop scream, repeatedly over several matches, the name of the manager who they wanted to replace Roy with.
Oh and of course half a season is a fair crack in anyone's book really.
I don't recall ever sat at anfield listening to the Kop scream, repeatedly over several matches, the name of the manager who they wanted to replace Roy with.
Oh and of course half a season is a fair crack in anyone's book really.
Raja said:
Roy given a fair crack by the fans. Yes another bit of revisionism there.
I don't recall ever sat at anfield listening to the Kop scream, repeatedly over several matches, the name of the manager who they wanted to replace Roy with.
Oh and of course half a season is a fair crack in anyone's book really.
At the start he was. Which is what is being discussed. I don't recall ever sat at anfield listening to the Kop scream, repeatedly over several matches, the name of the manager who they wanted to replace Roy with.
Oh and of course half a season is a fair crack in anyone's book really.
It soon became clear that perhaps he shouldn't have got the in the first place however.
The only sympathy I have in the matter is that it would be hard for anyone to do the job with the shadow of Dalglish looming large in background.
Booey said:
mickk said:
tux said:
Things Roy Did Wrong.
Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
Couldn't all those faults be blamed on KD aswell?Poor Press Conferences
Poor Team Selection
Poor Transfers
Poor Football
Poor Results
Poor Face rubs
Not trying to upset anyone, if those were Roy's faults surely Kenny has the same problems.As a neutral looking in, the whole Liverpool situation is very weird.
Roy didn't do a great job I don't think that can be disputed, but it's almost as if, having had most of Anfield shouting for King Kenny, now that you've got him and guess what, he isn't doing that good of a job either, it's proving a little difficult for many fans to eat a little humble pie and admit that perhaps he isn't the messiah you thought he was.
I have to add that he doesn't half seem one mardy, arsey sod when dealing with the press and giving interviews - something which I don't think does him any favours with anyone.
Roy didn't do a great job I don't think that can be disputed, but it's almost as if, having had most of Anfield shouting for King Kenny, now that you've got him and guess what, he isn't doing that good of a job either, it's proving a little difficult for many fans to eat a little humble pie and admit that perhaps he isn't the messiah you thought he was.
I have to add that he doesn't half seem one mardy, arsey sod when dealing with the press and giving interviews - something which I don't think does him any favours with anyone.
Yes you are correct, Dalglish has got pretty much the same things wrong as Hodgson the only difference being that now we are playing good football and although league results are poor we are showing positive signs and have done well in cups.
Listen if you want MY opinion I don't feel as if Dalglish will lead us to anything more than domestic cups which are great things to win but its not where we should be aiming. If you were to ask me i would say Dalglish was appointed manager because the new owners wanted to improve morale and get the fans on side after a very frustrating period in the clubs history. In the short term it worked, we had improved form, everyone was excited and life was generally good. But in the medium term (summer-now) things haven't progressed in the same way that they were when he took over. At the end of the day Dalglish is a legend and this wont ever be forgotten and whatever happens none of us will turn our backs on him but results have been very poor and results are what ultimately will take us back to the top of league and hopefully lead us to a title. The transfer he made have been mediocre. Enrique was brilliant up until January and now hes dropped off. Carroll improving but will he ever come good and score on a regular basis? Downing?? nothing needs to be said there. Adam? has shown glimpses of his talent but has too much of a tendency to go for impossible Hollywood goals and balls. Henderson? has alot of promise and he may well come good but can you honestly say that the team/squad we are building are going to come good for next season? or the next? or even the next?
Listen if you want MY opinion I don't feel as if Dalglish will lead us to anything more than domestic cups which are great things to win but its not where we should be aiming. If you were to ask me i would say Dalglish was appointed manager because the new owners wanted to improve morale and get the fans on side after a very frustrating period in the clubs history. In the short term it worked, we had improved form, everyone was excited and life was generally good. But in the medium term (summer-now) things haven't progressed in the same way that they were when he took over. At the end of the day Dalglish is a legend and this wont ever be forgotten and whatever happens none of us will turn our backs on him but results have been very poor and results are what ultimately will take us back to the top of league and hopefully lead us to a title. The transfer he made have been mediocre. Enrique was brilliant up until January and now hes dropped off. Carroll improving but will he ever come good and score on a regular basis? Downing?? nothing needs to be said there. Adam? has shown glimpses of his talent but has too much of a tendency to go for impossible Hollywood goals and balls. Henderson? has alot of promise and he may well come good but can you honestly say that the team/squad we are building are going to come good for next season? or the next? or even the next?
A fair crack at the job doesn't mean a handful of games at the start of a season. Especially with all the off field chaos at the time.
In all my years supporting the club and going to games I've never witnessed not only chants of wanting the manager out but chants of who his replacement should be.
A shameful episode in our history for which some may say that we're now paying the price.
All said and done I don't think Roy was good enough to manage us but let's not pretend that he was given a fair chance. I've never seen a Liverpool manager get so much abuse from our own fans as Roy did.
In all my years supporting the club and going to games I've never witnessed not only chants of wanting the manager out but chants of who his replacement should be.
A shameful episode in our history for which some may say that we're now paying the price.
All said and done I don't think Roy was good enough to manage us but let's not pretend that he was given a fair chance. I've never seen a Liverpool manager get so much abuse from our own fans as Roy did.
In 30 odd years of watching LFC I have never stood\sat on the Kop with so little expectation or excitement as I did today. We could have played until midnight and not worried Foster. It was s
te, it was not good enough in any way shape or form. For all the criticism Raja gets, he saw exactly what I saw today it was pathetic. Chelsea will murder us at Wembley. As for Downing I have just trodden in something that served more purpose than he does
te, it was not good enough in any way shape or form. For all the criticism Raja gets, he saw exactly what I saw today it was pathetic. Chelsea will murder us at Wembley. As for Downing I have just trodden in something that served more purpose than he doestux said:
Listen if you want MY opinion I don't feel as if Dalglish will lead us to anything more than domestic cups which are great things to win but its not where we should be aiming. If you were to ask me i would say Dalglish was appointed manager because the new owners wanted to improve morale and get the fans on side after a very frustrating period in the clubs history. In the short term it worked, we had improved form, everyone was excited and life was generally good. But in the medium term (summer-now) things haven't progressed in the same way that they were when he took over. At the end of the day Dalglish is a legend and this wont ever be forgotten and whatever happens none of us will turn our backs on him but results have been very poor and results are what ultimately will take us back to the top of league and hopefully lead us to a title. The transfer he made have been mediocre. Enrique was brilliant up until January and now hes dropped off. Carroll improving but will he ever come good and score on a regular basis? Downing?? nothing needs to be said there. Adam? has shown glimpses of his talent but has too much of a tendency to go for impossible Hollywood goals and balls. Henderson? has alot of promise and he may well come good but can you honestly say that the team/squad we are building are going to come good for next season? or the next? or even the next?
Sensible post, can't argue with any of that.Keep it up and the regulars will be calling for your head.
Oh and whilst I'm reflecting on the game, I still don't understand this 3 defenders on the bench nonsense. Someone like Sterling as an option later on could have come in handy today. There simply is no reason why both Coates and Carra should be both on the bench with a fullback cover also.
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