The Official Liverpool Thread, Volume 3

[deadmau5]

Adam JohnSON.

I would like to see him at Liverpool, I think he's a great player.

[Booey]

GLENRED said:

Adam Johnston

Have you been hitting the hooch again glen?

[Raja]

MaxAndRuby said:

I agree with you re:Newcastle, they've done a fantastic job. They haven't signed a single World Class player though, and that's the point I was disputing.

Would you have classed Suarez as world class when he joined, or indeed now?

I'm not sure that we ever have signed proven world class players, even with Torres there were question marks. Maybe Masch was the closest but even there, like Suarez, there were other factors at play.

Players like Alonso were prospects, Garcia were proven (but at a level deemed not good enough for the top teams).

I think its this level of players that we can and should be able to attract.

[anonymous-user]

Would you perhaps not be well served by trying to find some World Class players who are in their twighlight years? Get them on short contracts and allow them to take some pressure off while the young uns develop

Gotta be some older chaps who would be looking for more 1st team football and the results they may give wouldnt be the whole story, the young lads being in and around them in training picking up skills and techniques would be a great bonus

[paulrockliffe]

anonymous said:

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I thought I would be considered to be taking the piss if I added Collocini and Tiote. Tiote looks really good, but he's a little inconsistent; at the weekend he was spraying balls around but half went off the side of the pitch. Wouldn't say no though. Collocini is good enough, but it's not a priority area for us I don't think.

[hornetrider]

anonymous said:

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Don't think so. Looks to me we are going down Goon Way rather than Spud Street...

[anonymous-user]

hornetrider said:

anonymous said:

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Don't think so. Looks to me we are going down Goon Way rather than Spud Street...

Yeah true enough, hasn't worked out too well for Gooners though has it

I think you can mix both to a degree and the most important thing for you guys is to start winning some games

As a side note, what has happened to Anfield? I was speaking to my scouse mate last night and he was saying you have only won 5 games there this season? Have won more on the road?

[jammy_basturd]

I wouldn't be looking to sign any players from Newcastle. We've already had our fingers burnt in that fire!

[Uhura fighter]

Raja said:

Sorry Max but I genuinely believe that if Newcastle can bring in talent then we should be able to also.

Newcastles chief scout is Alan Carrs dad. It's true that is.

(The chatty man)

[MaxAndRuby]

Raja said:

I'm not sure that we ever have signed proven world class players.

Agreed, so why are you offering "we need to sign a world class striker and winger" like it's some sort of realistic solution to our problems. It WON'T happen.

[Raja]

MaxAndRuby said:

Raja said:

I'm not sure that we ever have signed proven world class players.

Agreed, so why are you offering "we need to sign a world class striker and winger" like it's some sort of realistic solution to our problems. It WON'T happen.

Fair enough. As long as we don't sign an out of shape Scotsman, a pair of overpaid invisible Englishmen and someone that is destined to replicate the life of Paul Gascoine (off the pitch anyway) I'll be quite happy.

It is indeed that tier below world class, prospect (in the Alonso mould not the Henderson) that we should be looking at or as Keyzer mentioned experienced with something still to offer (Bellamy fits this imo).

With that in mind who would you (or anyone else) have as a striker and a winger?

[MaxAndRuby]

Raja said:

Fair enough. As long as we don't sign an out of shape Scotsman, a pair of overpaid invisible Englishmen and someone that is destined to replicate the life of Paul Gascoine (off the pitch anyway) I'll be quite happy.

It is indeed that tier below world class, prospect (in the Alonso mould not the Henderson) that we should be looking at or as Keyzer mentioned experienced with something still to offer (Bellamy fits this imo).

With that in mind who would you (or anyone else) have as a striker and a winger?

I think Adam Johnson would be a really good signing, and actually I'd prefer to see Suso/Sterling introduced, than risk bucket loads of money bringing in more mediocrity. Every time I see a player I like, I just can't think of a reason why they'd come.

I didn't answer your question earlier, I do NOT rate Suarez as a world class footballer.

[2seas]

jammy_basturd said:

I wouldn't be looking to sign any players from Newcastle. We've already had our fingers burnt in that fire!

I did a little digging and:

Andy Carroll for Newcastle in the Prem League scored 11 goals in 19 appearances.
Papiss Cisse for Newcastle in the Prem League scored 11 goals in 12 appearances (to date).

Now granted it looks like Cisse is doing better as he has scored the same in fewer games, but, what's to say he wont suddenly burn out? Cisse is 26 which I believe is considered to be the peak period (26-28) for a player. Andy Carroll is 23.

It seems a bit hypocritical to me to on the one hand slate Andy Carroll and write him off completely and on the other hand say Cisse would be a great signing...

[GLENRED]

Linked with this guy recently, I dont know much about him though?

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/12042...

[2seas]

MaxAndRuby said:

Raja said:

Fair enough. As long as we don't sign an out of shape Scotsman, a pair of overpaid invisible Englishmen and someone that is destined to replicate the life of Paul Gascoine (off the pitch anyway) I'll be quite happy.

It is indeed that tier below world class, prospect (in the Alonso mould not the Henderson) that we should be looking at or as Keyzer mentioned experienced with something still to offer (Bellamy fits this imo).

With that in mind who would you (or anyone else) have as a striker and a winger?

I think Adam Johnson would be a really good signing, and actually I'd prefer to see Suso/Sterling introduced, than risk bucket loads of money bringing in more mediocrity. Every time I see a player I like, I just can't think of a reason why they'd come.

I didn't answer your question earlier, I do NOT rate Suarez as a world class footballer.

And yet Suarez is a sure starter and key player for Uruguay, who won the 2011 Copa America (scored 4 goals) and finished 4th in the last world cup (scored 3 goals). What standards are you using to define world class?

[GLENRED]

Raja said:

Is Jackson Martinez a world class striker or prospect? Apparently we're in for him.

http://www.ligapostobon.com.co/noticia/jackson-martinez-nuevo-jugador-de-liverpool-12654

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[MaxAndRuby]

2seas said:

What standards are you using to define world class?

Good question, and of course one that you can't cleary define. I'll give some examples.

Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Torres(of old)
Gerrard
Reina
Rooney
Aguero
Tevez

Those players in my view are "World Class". I suppose a definition could be a player who you could strongly argue to be in the squad of the best football club in the world.

[2seas]

MaxAndRuby said:

2seas said:

What standards are you using to define world class?

Good question, and of course one that you can't cleary define. I'll give some examples.

Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Torres(of old)
Gerrard
Reina
Rooney
Aguero
Tevez

Those players in my view are "World Class". I suppose a definition could be a player who you could strongly argue to be in the squad of the best football club in the world.

Fairy muff. By that standard I agree Suarez wouldn't make the "World XI". For the record my world XI would be:

Reina (yes I genuinely believe he's better than cassilas)
alves puyol ramos lahm
ronaldo iniesta xavi messi
van persie aguero

[deadmau5]

GLENRED said:

Raja said:

Is Jackson Martinez a world class striker or prospect? Apparently we're in for him.

http://www.ligapostobon.com.co/noticia/jackson-martinez-nuevo-jugador-de-liverpool-12654

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Several Mexican media indicate that Liverpool already paid Jaguars a sum of money through the Jackson Martinez, who would be competing in the English Premier League.
One of the journalists with greater credibility in Mexico is Jorge Zambrano, in dialogue with RCN-antenna 2, released the figures of the negotiation with the English team, "Jackson is a player of other latitudes, so the directives of the Liverpool of England already paid three of the nine million dollars," said the Communicator.
Known the official version, the Aztec commentator gives as a fact the incorporation of Colombian striker "The Reds" as it is known in English as a whole, which is listed as one of the most important in Europe: "now if it can be said that he is already part of Liverpool".
However considers that surely his new team directives you think the opportunity in one of the sets which competes in the Premier League: "Suddenly going to transfer to another club that competes in that country by the modus operandi that occurs in Europe".
Therefore considers that this will be the last season of the "Cha-Cha-Cha" in manito, with Jaguars football: "Surely Mexico will no longer have more Jackson".
Martinez will become the second Colombian player, currently, in such prestigious League, for some years it has been doing the vallecaucano attacker Hugo Rodallega with Wigan.

[Black can man]

MaxAndRuby said:

2seas said:

What standards are you using to define world class?

Good question, and of course one that you can't cleary define. I'll give some examples.

Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Torres(of old)
Gerrard
Reina
Rooney
Aguero
Tevez

Those players in my view are "World Class". I suppose a definition could be a player who you could strongly argue to be in the squad of the best football club in the world.

Crikey Max are you really saying that Reina is the best keeper in the world ? he's not even the best in the premiership ,