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hornetrider
41,167 posts
75 months
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Smart Mart said: Probably because the breaking news on the England team is leaking out. Indeed. Got the goss?
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Smart Mart
4,161 posts
85 months
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hornetrider said: Indeed. Got the goss? Only what's on Twitter, mate. Ferdinand left out (dropped) and will retire, Walker out (injured), Richards left out (dropped) and Crouch left out (dropped).
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hornetrider
41,167 posts
75 months
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Cheers. So - if Ferdinand is out then Terry is in  If Crouch is out that means Carroll is in  If Walker is out - GJ is in Micah Richards - bit of a surprise as he could play CB or LB so useful to have in the squad. Interesting to see the full squad.
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HeatonNorris
1,649 posts
18 months
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Never sure why people get excited over their club's players being picked for international duties.
I'd prefer it if none of ours ever played another international game again - remember Neil Webb? - I really would prefer that something similar doesn't happen again.
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Wombat3
5,205 posts
76 months
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hornetrider said: Cheers. So - if Ferdinand is out then Terry is in  If Crouch is out that means Carroll is in  If Walker is out - GJ is in Micah Richards - bit of a surprise as he could play CB or LB so useful to have in the squad. Interesting to see the full squad. Rio (who has been top quality pretty much all season) left out in favour of Terry (who played "just brilliantly" the other week against Liverpool  , and then Barcelona AND has cracked Ribs!) . If Terry's on the pitch, who's the skipper?? Gerrard I s'pose. If that's right Roy has lost the plot TBH. Ugly rumours about Heskey being in as well FFS! 
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Raja
3,472 posts
105 months
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Andy Hunter guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 15 May 2012 22.01 BST
Kenny Dalglish is waiting to discover whether his second Liverpool reign is over having failed to receive assurances over his future from Fenway Sports Group during face-to-face talks in Boston.
Dalglish arrived back in England on Tuesday morning following a meeting with the principal owner, John W Henry, and the chairman, Tom Werner, in the United States at which he delivered his end-of-season review and outlined his strategy for much-needed improvement next season. The Liverpool manager instigated Monday's talks in response to the uncertainty that has surrounded his position since defeat in the FA Cup final on 5 May.
FSG, however, is continuing to assess Liverpool's poor eighth‑place finish in the Premier League and the prospects of Dalglish and Steve Clarke, the assistant manager who accompanied his fellow Scot to Boston, returning Champions League football to Anfield. Contrary to the fevered speculation surrounding Dalglish's brief trip, the Liverpool manager was not sacked and did not offer to resign.
But as Dalglish prepares to go on holiday on Wednesday, it is in the knowledge that the meeting with Henry and Werner, his explanation for Liverpool's lowest league finish for 18 years and insistence that a major summer overhaul is unnecessary has not resolved the critical issue of whether he will remain as manager next season. FSG has refused to give assurances on Dalglish's future since the FA Cup final and the lack of them during direct talks with the Liverpool manager demonstrates the extent of the owners' reservations over the progress of his squad.
Henry stated at the start of the season that it would be "a major disappointment" should Liverpool fail to finish in the top four after a £120m investment in new players. Dalglish's team did not mount a challenge for the Champions League places, although they did win the Carling Cup, Liverpool's first trophy for six years, and reach the FA Cup final, and next season will be the club's third consecutive campaign outside the European elite. The agent of Martin Skrtel, Liverpool's player of the year, has claimed the Slovakian defender is concerned at the lack of Champions League football as he considers his options with two years remaining on his current contract.
Dalglish remains in limbo despite attempting to clarify FSG's position by travelling to the United States. The Liverpool manager has identified several transfer targets for the summer but, without confirmation that his job is safe, the club would struggle to proceed in securing their signatures in the absence of a director of football or chief executive at Anfield. Dalglish does not negotiate transfer deals or contracts as the Liverpool manager.
FSG sacked Damien Comolli as director of football 48 hours before the FA Cup semi-final against Everton on the basis they needed to appoint a replacement as quickly as possible. Almost five weeks on, and two weeks before the transfer window officially reopens, the position remains vacant. The owners have also parted company with Liverpool's head of sports science, Dr Peter Brukner, and head of communications, Ian Cotton, in recent weeks. In addition there has been no decision on whether to rebuild Anfield or proceed with a new stadium on Stanley Park since FSG replaced Tom Hicks and George Gillett as owners in October 2010.
Dalglish was handed a three-year contract when he replaced Roy Hodgson on a permanent basis 12 months ago and his departure would increase the vacuum at Liverpool, plus increase the pressure on FSG to appoint a proven successor to an Anfield legend who retains widespread support among the club's fanbase.
The Liverpool manager responded to the uncertainty over his future by launching a staunch defence of his second tenure during his final pre-match press conference of the season on Friday. Dalglish cited the Carling Cup, Europa League qualification and the dramatic improvement since returning in January 2011 with Liverpool languishing four points above the relegation zone as evidence of progress. But he has received no indication from Henry or Werner that they share that assessment.
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Uhura fighter
7,018 posts
53 months
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No point in asking you the time, Tick Tock..... 
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jammy_basturd
8,343 posts
82 months
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Dav_s
1,547 posts
62 months
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In Raja's defence, there have been so many rumours flying around since yesterday.
Desperate for Kenny to be given one more season. I honestly think Carroll will come good next season, and with a few other players upping their game/returning from injury, I can see a massive improvement on this seasons league performance.
Just hope FSG see it that way too.
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2seas
3,329 posts
53 months
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Wombat3 said: hornetrider said: Cheers. So - if Ferdinand is out then Terry is in  If Crouch is out that means Carroll is in  If Walker is out - GJ is in Micah Richards - bit of a surprise as he could play CB or LB so useful to have in the squad. Interesting to see the full squad. Rio (who has been top quality pretty much all season) left out in favour of Terry (who played "just brilliantly" the other week against Liverpool  , and then Barcelona AND has cracked Ribs!) . If Terry's on the pitch, who's the skipper?? Gerrard I s'pose. If that's right Roy has lost the plot TBH. Ugly rumours about Heskey being in as well FFS!  Welcome to Roy Hodgson. You can also look forward to some deep defending and negative play, (i.e. hoofing long balls up to the strikers). There are good reasons why the Liverpool fans gave him so little time and chief among them was the way he approached the game tactically/strategically from the outset.
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Steameh
3,077 posts
80 months
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Wombat3 said: Rio (who has been top quality pretty much all season) left out in favour of Terry (who played "just brilliantly" the other week against Liverpool  , and then Barcelona AND has cracked Ribs!) . If Terry's on the pitch, who's the skipper?? Gerrard I s'pose. If that's right Roy has lost the plot TBH. Ugly rumours about Heskey being in as well FFS!  He's not even announced the squad yet.
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deadmau5
2,119 posts
50 months
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2seas said: Welcome to Roy Hodgson. You can also look forward to some deep defending and negative play, (i.e. hoofing long balls up to the strikers).
There are good reasons why the Liverpool fans gave him so little time and chief among them was the way he approached the game tactically/strategically from the outset. Remember those flip chart pictures that had things like 'More long balls to Torres' written on them?
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Raja
3,472 posts
105 months
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Uhura fighter said: No point in asking you the time, Tick Tock.....  No point asking you to try and justify 6 home league wins either  Clearly something is going on but hey you and Jammy carry on thinking all is fine.
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jammy_basturd
8,343 posts
82 months
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Well I personally don't think everything is fine, I've already said that I consider the 8th place in the league to be a failure.
However I don't consider the solution to that failure to be to fire KK and bring in someone new.
That is all there for you to read - but you just sit behind your "revisionism" and your "cults" thinking that the only answer is your own and that any slight deviation from that is wrong.
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Raja
3,472 posts
105 months
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No other person in charge would still be in a job at Liverpool with the season we've had. Run a business on sentimentality and there is only one outcome.
It is a cult - because you're position is based upon blind faith.
I find it disappointing that Dalglish tried to force the issue and the owners effectively told him to go away. He hasn't been given a vote of confidence and rather from where I'm sat its as if a petulant child is being made to wait.
If he stays on then as I've said before, I'll still support my club. Based on what I've witnessed this season I can't see us competing next season under Dalglish.
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Uhura fighter
7,018 posts
53 months
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Raja said: No point asking you to try and justify 6 home league wins either  Clearly something is going on but hey you and Jammy carry on thinking all is fine. I'd hoped the smile would point out the humour. As I understand things Kenny and Steve got the flights over, had a meeting. Kenny flew home, Steve stayed to watch a game. Kenny has gone on holiday today. Everything else is just paper talk. We don't have a press man as we have just let Ian Cotton go - don't expect much in the way of statements from this side of the pond imo.
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deadmau5
2,119 posts
50 months
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If there was only one reason why Dalglish should go, it is the fact that he started Henderson and Spearing in the FA Cup final. How anyone could be so stupid is beyond me. I don't think I will ever forgive him for that. He also didn't change it for 60 minutes. Tactical ineptitude of the highest order.
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Blib
20,899 posts
67 months
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Is it correct that Dalglish was sent home from Boston after just one meeting, while the owners took his second in command, Steve Clark , to a Red Sox game?
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Keyser Soze
10,997 posts
61 months
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Blib said: Is it correct that Dalglish was sent home from Boston after just one meeting, while the owners took his second in command, Steve something , to a Red Sox game? 
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TheHeretic
69,450 posts
125 months
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Blib said: Is it correct that Dalglish was sent home from Boston after just one meeting, while the owners took his second in command, Steve something , to a Red Sox game? Yup. Thought that was a little odd. Would have thought sitting with Dalglish would have sent a good message.
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