The Official Liverpool Thread, Volume 3

The Official Liverpool Thread, Volume 3

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10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

216 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Booey said:
Chelsea are just a Stoke with more flair and tantrums.
And trophies. Not that they're important, as long as you're playing pretty football and putting dents in the bar.

mickk

28,769 posts

241 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Booey said:
10 Pence Short said:
Yeah, all those Chelsea fans were well pissed off winning the league twice in a row under Mourhino.
Chelsea are just Stoke with more flair cheats and tantrums.

2seas

3,678 posts

182 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
2seas said:
this is what i can't understand about a lot of Liverpool supporters. Good football comes first, results second. Would you take a champs league place if it meant watching us play like stoke every game of the year? If it comes to that then it's a sad day for LFC and a sad day for football.
Yeah, all those Chelsea fans were well pissed off winning the league twice in a row under Mourhino.
chelsea were defensive but they were hardly as 'root 1' as stoke now were they? would you like to watch untied play like stoke - if it meant you could win the prem..?

2seas

3,678 posts

182 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
Booey said:
Chelsea are just a Stoke with more flair and tantrums.
And trophies. Not that they're important, as long as you're playing pretty football and putting dents in the bar.
looking like united might not end up with any trophies this year - we'll have at least one though. maybe you should start playing like us..

Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.

I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.

RWD cossie wil

4,295 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.

I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
He was never the right man for the job, ever. He plays 10-1 like he did today, boring horrible football. Yes ok WBA won today, but would I swap him for KK? Not a chance, their mentalitys are polar opposite.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Alfahorn said:
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
A little light reading to bring you up to speed wink

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/tribute-roy-hodgson-his-...

2seas

3,678 posts

182 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.

I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
when hodgson left us we were 12th. currenty, having had a "disastrous" season we are 8th, we've won a cup and we're in the final of another cup.

hosgson was vilified for slagging off his own fans and for his negative tactics. we were a combination of dire and awful to watch.

wolves_wanderer

12,356 posts

236 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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hornetrider said:
Alfahorn said:
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
A little light reading to bring you up to speed wink

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/tribute-roy-hodgson-his-...
The first line makes me laugh "seeing as how Roy Hodgson has found his level at a new club"

His level will be above Liverpool by the end of the season.

Thom987

3,185 posts

165 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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2seas said:
Good football comes first, results second
Completely wrong in my book. Results are the important thing, good football, while important is not the be all and end all. Putting the ball in the net, or rather the lack of it is why we are 8th in the league and the main reason there are so many questions over Kennys future. We don't have to play like Stoke to get results.

Booey

7,573 posts

179 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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2seas said:
Good football comes first, results second.
You would be much happier supporting Arsenal aka Barcelona B.

jammy_basturd

29,775 posts

211 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Thom987 said:
2seas said:
Good football comes first, results second
Completely wrong in my book. Results are the important thing, good football, while important is not the be all and end all. Putting the ball in the net, or rather the lack of it is why we are 8th in the league and the main reason there are so many questions over Kennys future. We don't have to play like Stoke to get results.
I agree with 2seas, at this stage, with nothing to play for in the league, I'd much rather see us play good football.

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.

I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
He was not vilified from day one. Totally incorrect.

He lost his job because his team under performed, as will Dalglish. As do all managers.

The only difference is that Kenny obviously has more goodwill in the bank due to his history with the club. How could it be otherwise?

Theres no injustice whatsoever.

cotney

554 posts

170 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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2seas said:
cotney said:
2seas said:
in the grand scheme of things it makes little difference to our season now. it's so frustrating though.
It does make a difference though, because if this form continues, you could find yourself finishing in the bottom half of the table.
and? a bit of a dent to our pride perhaps but we've already got a UEFA place in in a few years no one will give a st.
Oh dear, it's worse than I thought. Even the fans are accepting being st.

2seas

3,678 posts

182 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Thom987 said:
2seas said:
Good football comes first, results second
Completely wrong in my book. Results are the important thing, good football, while important is not the be all and end all. Putting the ball in the net, or rather the lack of it is why we are 8th in the league and the main reason there are so many questions over Kennys future. We don't have to play like Stoke to get results.
well this is something we will never agree on and we don't have to - everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

i love football, watching and playing. i want the team i love to play good football in the right spirit. the ethos of the game will always be more important to me than results. don't get me wrong - i hate, utterly hate, to lose. but i wouldn't take winning at the cost of good football. i don't expect us to come out attacking and playing great football every game of the season - there will be lulls and a scrappy victory here and there is part of the game. but i want out general outlook to be moving in the direction of a side that plays positive attacking football.

Edited by 2seas on Sunday 22 April 18:19

Thom987

3,185 posts

165 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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jammy_basturd said:
Thom987 said:
2seas said:
Good football comes first, results second
Completely wrong in my book. Results are the important thing, good football, while important is not the be all and end all. Putting the ball in the net, or rather the lack of it is why we are 8th in the league and the main reason there are so many questions over Kennys future. We don't have to play like Stoke to get results.
I agree with 2seas, at this stage, with nothing to play for in the league, I'd much rather see us play good football.
I'd much rather see us win.

Everton had nothing to play for today, good job they had a bit of pride and may have cost United the league.

Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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2seas said:
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.

I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
when hodgson left us we were 12th. currenty, having had a "disastrous" season we are 8th, we've won a cup and we're in the final of another cup.

hosgson was vilified for slagging off his own fans and for his negative tactics. we were a combination of dire and awful to watch.
Dalglish bloody well should be doing better than Hodgson, he's has £86m more to spend, none of the boardroom bullst Hodgson had to deal with and the blinkered support of the fans despite their dreadful results.

Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.

I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
He was not vilified from day one. Totally incorrect.
Try reading my comments again.

Raja

8,290 posts

234 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Well it sure is one less game left to endure. Of course we were unlucky but if it's the same week in week out it stops being that.

Really thought the subs cost us today. Until then we were dominating.

Suarez even with his amazing ability to wiggle past players has one major fault. He really needs to look up and pass the ball more than he is doing.

Carroll didn't do anything too bad. Didn't do anything too well either. It's clear that he needs more time and more chances than he's likely to get at a team with our aspirations.

Downing when he came on was awful. His corner is what started the move to the goal although Johnson's arrogance was inexcusable. At least with Carroll the lad is trying. The same really can't be said of Downing.

I thought Henderson has a much better game in the middle but the problem with playing him and Spearing as a midfield 2 is that there just isn't the consistent quality or consistency in passing the ball forwards.

West Brom had 2 very good chances in the first half and another one in the second as well. Roy was never good enough to manage Liverpool. I think we all agree with that. The truth is that Dalglish is arguably no better, even after having 3x a long and over 10x as much money to spend.

The best we can wish for is for Dalglish to win us the cup and use that as his get out and move upstairs.

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Alfahorn said:
Justice for Roy Hodgson today, delighted for him.
What a strange thing to say.

I wasn't aware he'd been wronged and suffered some injustice...
Really, he was vilified by the Liverpool fans virtually from the day he joined the club and was given just 31 games in charge of a club in decline, who as far as I can see are still in decline yet Dalglish doesn't seem to suffer the same kind of negativity as Hodgson did.

So yes, he did suffer and injustice and so today was justice indeed.
He was not vilified from day one. Totally incorrect.
Try reading my comments again.
Day one. Virtually day one. Same difference. How pedantic of you.

The fact is he was given a fair crack of the whip but failed on the pitch and with his strange comments, so paid the price.

Dalglish may have been extended some goodwill Hodgson didn't receive but he will lose his job soon too unless there is a huge change in our fortunes.
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