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BigsimonY said:
Typical Septic fans......Loons till the very end. WATP Edited by JuniorD on Thursday 5th November 14:49
We are the people....who don't pay tax
k paying tax!"
NO advantage gained on the pitch!
The taxman should be trying to retrieve every penny in tax due from this list !
THE LIST OF RANGERS EBT PAYMENTS
Former manager McLeish received £1.7m
Alan Hutton, £364,000: Made debut in 2002 and played 94 games, before £9million move to Spurs.
Alex McLeish, £1.7million: Managed Rangers from 2001-06.
Alex Rae, £569,000: Midfielder arrived at Ibrox in 2004 and spent two years there. Played 34 games.
Andrei Kanchelskis, £145,000: Russian winger arrived from Fiorentina in 1998 for £5.5million.
Andrew Dickson, £33,000: Head of football administration since 2003. Previously financial controller at Ibrox.
Arthur Numan, £510,000: Dutch full-back arrived at Rangers from PSV Eindhoven in 1998 for £4.5million. Played 118 times.
Barry Ferguson, £2.5million: Former youth player who became Rangers captain. Played at Ibrox from 1996-2003 and 2005-09.
Bert Konterman, £300,000: Dutch defender signed by Dick Advocaat for £4.5million in 2000.
Bert Van Lingen, £65,000: Assistant manager under Dick Advocaat from 1998 to 2002.
Billy Dodds, £190,000: Arrived in a £1.5million deal from Dundee United in 1999.
Bob Malcolm, £125,000: Central defender started his career with Rangers in 1997. Played 88 games. Left for Derby County in 2006.
Midfielder Christian Nerlinger was at Ibrox between 2001 and 2004Midfielder Christian Nerlinger was at Ibrox between 2001 and 2004 and picked up £1.8m in payments
Carlos Cuellar, £448,255: Spanish centre-half arrived from Osasuna in £2.37million deal in 2007. Moved to Aston Villa in 2008.
Chris Burke, £55,000: Started career at Rangers, playing 96 games from 2002 to 2009. Left for Cardiff City.
Christian Nerlinger, £1.8million: German midfielder signed from Borrusia Dortmund in 2001 and left in 2004.
Claudio Caniggia, £1million: Argentinian signed from Dundee for £1million in 2001.
Craig Moore, £1.1million: Australian centre-half played more than 90 games from 1994-98. Returned in 1999 and stayed until 2005.
Rob CaseyDutchman Dick Advocaat was the manager who gave him a real chance in the team, building his midfield around him.Dutchman Dick Advocaat (right) spent almost £74m as manager
Dado Prso, £1.9million: Croatian striker was free transfer in 2004. Left for Dinamo Zagreb in 2007.
Dan Eggen, £68,000: Norwegian central defender signed in 2003 from Spanish club Alaves.
Sir David Murray, £6.3million: Owned club from 1988-2011, during which Rangers lifted 15 titles and 26 cups. Sold shares to Craig Whyte for £1.
Dick Advocaat, £1.5million: Rangers manager from 1998-2002. Spent almost £74million to win five trophies, including two titles.
Douglas Odam, £119,000: Finance director for 15 years. Left in 2003 to take up a role within Sir David Murray’s business empire.
Egil Ostenstad, £370,000: Norwegian forward signed from Blackburn on free transfer in 2003.
Daily RecordJean-Alain Boumsong joined the Ibrox club on a free transfer before moving to Newcastle United in a £8m deal six months later
Fernando Ricksen, £684,225: Dutch right-back signed in 2000 from AZ Alkmaar for £3.75million.
Federico Nieto, £24,500: Argentine striker joined on loan deal in 2005 from Almagro. Scored once in three matches.
Gavin Rae, £376,000: Midfielder signed from Dundee in 2004 for a fee of £250,000. Moved to Cardiff in 2007.
George Adams, £30,000: Head of youth development between 2003-05.
Graeme Souness, £30,000: Player-manager from 1986-91.
Gregory Vignal, £173,000: French defender joined on loan from Liverpool in 2004. Moved to Portsmouth in 2005.
Ian McGuinness, £25,400: Club doctor sacked after Paul Le Guen left.
Ian Murray, £95,000: Midfielder was free transfer from Hibernian in 2006. Left in 2007.
Jan Wouters, £285,000: Former Dutch midfielder joined as a coach under Dick Advocaat, then Alex McLeish. Left in 2006.
Jean-Alain Boumsong, £630,000: French centre-half joined in 2004 on free transfer. Moved to for Newcastle for £8million.
Jerome Bonnissel, £48,000: French left-back arrived in 2003 from Bordeaux.
Daily RecordA cool million: Kevin Muscat received EBT payments
Jesper Christiansen, £320,000: Danish goalkeeper signed in 2000 as injury cover.
Joel Le Hir, £28,275: Paul Le Guen-appointed physiotherapist from 2006 to 2007.
John Greig £40,000: Played for club from 1961-78. Managed Rangers from 1978 to 1983. Later became a director.
John McClelland, £225,000: Appointed a director in 2000. Chairman from 2002 to 2004. Resigned last year.
Julien Rodriguez, £638,000: French centre-half signed from Monaco in 2005 for £1million. Left for Marseille in 2007.
Kevin Muscat, £1million: Australian defender joined from Wolves in 2002 on free transfer. Joined Millwall in 2003.
Kris Boyd, £215,000: Signed from Kilmarnock in 2006 for £500,000. Left in 2010.
Libor Sionko, £178,000: Czech midfielder signed from Austria Vienna in 2006. Played 18 matches before signing Copenhagen in 2007.
Lorenzo Amoruso, £639,000: Italian defender signed from Fiorentina for £4million in 1997. Moved to Blackburn Rovers for £1.4million in 2003.
Martin Bain, £249,000: Chief executive of Rangers from 2005 to 2011. Resigned after Murray sold club to Whyte.
Marvin Andrews, £316,025: Centre-half from Trinidad and Tobago joined from Livingston in 2004.
Michael Ball and Dick Advocaat clash
Maurice Ross, £120,000: Played 78 games for Rangers from 2000 to 2005, before moving to Sheffield Wednesday.
Michael Ball, £1.4million: Left-back signed from Everton in 2001 for £6.5million. Moved to PSV Eindhoven in 2005.
Michael Mols, £260,000: Dutch striker joined Rangers under Dick Advocaat. He arrived in 1999 and spent five years at Ibrox.
Mikel Arteta, £674,603: Spanish midfielder joined in 2002 and played 50 matches, scoring 12 goals. Moved to Everton.
Nacho Novo, £1.2million: Spanish striker joined in 2004 from Dundee for £450,000.
Neil McCann, £500,000: Winger joined from Hearts in 1998 for £2million.
Nuno Capucho, £970,000: Portuguese winger who arrived in 2003 for £700,000.
Olivier Bernard, £224,000: French defender arrived on a free transfer in 2005.
Paolo Vanoli, £592,000: Italian left-back joined from Bologna in 2003 and played in 28 matches.
Paul Le Guen, £201,250: French manager replaced Alex McLeish in 2006. Left in January 2007 after a string of poor results.
Pedro Mendes, £1million: Portuguese midfielder joined in 2008 for £3million. Joined Vituria Guimares in 2010.
Stefan Klos spent eight years between the sticks at Ibrox from 1998-2006Stefan Klos spent eight years between the sticks at Ibrox from 1998-2006
Peter Lovenkrands, £902,000: Danish winger arrived in 2000 from Akademisk Boldklub for £1.3million.
Ronald De Boer, £1.2million: Dutch midfielder joined in 2000 under Advocaat.
Ronald Waterreus, £510,000: Dutch goalkeeper joined Rangers in 2004 from Manchester City.
Sasa Papac, £319,000: Bosnian left-back arrived in 2006 from Austria Vienna for £450,000.
Sotirios Kyrgiakos £532,200: Greek centre-half signed from Panathinaikos in 2005.
Stefan Klos, £2million: German international keeper signed in 1999 for £800,000. Join Bayer Leverkusen in 2007.
Stephane Wiertelak, £28,275: French fitness-physiotherapy coach joined Rangers in 2006 under Le Guen
Steven Davis, £600,000: Northern Ireland midfielder. Left for Southampton in the summer.
Steven Smith, £7500: Defender came through youth ranks and made debut in 2004.
Steven Thompson, £485,000: Joined from Dundee United in 2003 for £200,000. Went to Cardiff City in 2006.
Tero Penttila, £140,000: Finnish defender joined in 1999 for £300,000 from Haka Valkeakoski. Left in 2002 to join HJK Helsinki.
Thomas Buffel, £1.2million: Belgian midfielder joined in 2005 for £2.3million from Feyenoord.
Tore Andre Flo, £1.3million: Norwegian striker joined from Chelsea in 2000 for £12million. Sold for £6.75million to Sunderland in 2002.
Yves Colleau, £106,200: Former French midfielder served as assistant to Le Guen at Rennes, Lyon and Rangers from 2006 to 2007.
Zurab Khizanishvili, £405,000: Georgian defender joined on a free transfer from Dundee in 2003. Moved to Blackburn Rovers in 2005.
The taxman should be trying to retrieve every penny in tax due from this list !
THE LIST OF RANGERS EBT PAYMENTS
Former manager McLeish received £1.7m
Alan Hutton, £364,000: Made debut in 2002 and played 94 games, before £9million move to Spurs.
Alex McLeish, £1.7million: Managed Rangers from 2001-06.
Alex Rae, £569,000: Midfielder arrived at Ibrox in 2004 and spent two years there. Played 34 games.
Andrei Kanchelskis, £145,000: Russian winger arrived from Fiorentina in 1998 for £5.5million.
Andrew Dickson, £33,000: Head of football administration since 2003. Previously financial controller at Ibrox.
Arthur Numan, £510,000: Dutch full-back arrived at Rangers from PSV Eindhoven in 1998 for £4.5million. Played 118 times.
Barry Ferguson, £2.5million: Former youth player who became Rangers captain. Played at Ibrox from 1996-2003 and 2005-09.
Bert Konterman, £300,000: Dutch defender signed by Dick Advocaat for £4.5million in 2000.
Bert Van Lingen, £65,000: Assistant manager under Dick Advocaat from 1998 to 2002.
Billy Dodds, £190,000: Arrived in a £1.5million deal from Dundee United in 1999.
Bob Malcolm, £125,000: Central defender started his career with Rangers in 1997. Played 88 games. Left for Derby County in 2006.
Midfielder Christian Nerlinger was at Ibrox between 2001 and 2004Midfielder Christian Nerlinger was at Ibrox between 2001 and 2004 and picked up £1.8m in payments
Carlos Cuellar, £448,255: Spanish centre-half arrived from Osasuna in £2.37million deal in 2007. Moved to Aston Villa in 2008.
Chris Burke, £55,000: Started career at Rangers, playing 96 games from 2002 to 2009. Left for Cardiff City.
Christian Nerlinger, £1.8million: German midfielder signed from Borrusia Dortmund in 2001 and left in 2004.
Claudio Caniggia, £1million: Argentinian signed from Dundee for £1million in 2001.
Craig Moore, £1.1million: Australian centre-half played more than 90 games from 1994-98. Returned in 1999 and stayed until 2005.
Rob CaseyDutchman Dick Advocaat was the manager who gave him a real chance in the team, building his midfield around him.Dutchman Dick Advocaat (right) spent almost £74m as manager
Dado Prso, £1.9million: Croatian striker was free transfer in 2004. Left for Dinamo Zagreb in 2007.
Dan Eggen, £68,000: Norwegian central defender signed in 2003 from Spanish club Alaves.
Sir David Murray, £6.3million: Owned club from 1988-2011, during which Rangers lifted 15 titles and 26 cups. Sold shares to Craig Whyte for £1.
Dick Advocaat, £1.5million: Rangers manager from 1998-2002. Spent almost £74million to win five trophies, including two titles.
Douglas Odam, £119,000: Finance director for 15 years. Left in 2003 to take up a role within Sir David Murray’s business empire.
Egil Ostenstad, £370,000: Norwegian forward signed from Blackburn on free transfer in 2003.
Daily RecordJean-Alain Boumsong joined the Ibrox club on a free transfer before moving to Newcastle United in a £8m deal six months later
Fernando Ricksen, £684,225: Dutch right-back signed in 2000 from AZ Alkmaar for £3.75million.
Federico Nieto, £24,500: Argentine striker joined on loan deal in 2005 from Almagro. Scored once in three matches.
Gavin Rae, £376,000: Midfielder signed from Dundee in 2004 for a fee of £250,000. Moved to Cardiff in 2007.
George Adams, £30,000: Head of youth development between 2003-05.
Graeme Souness, £30,000: Player-manager from 1986-91.
Gregory Vignal, £173,000: French defender joined on loan from Liverpool in 2004. Moved to Portsmouth in 2005.
Ian McGuinness, £25,400: Club doctor sacked after Paul Le Guen left.
Ian Murray, £95,000: Midfielder was free transfer from Hibernian in 2006. Left in 2007.
Jan Wouters, £285,000: Former Dutch midfielder joined as a coach under Dick Advocaat, then Alex McLeish. Left in 2006.
Jean-Alain Boumsong, £630,000: French centre-half joined in 2004 on free transfer. Moved to for Newcastle for £8million.
Jerome Bonnissel, £48,000: French left-back arrived in 2003 from Bordeaux.
Daily RecordA cool million: Kevin Muscat received EBT payments
Jesper Christiansen, £320,000: Danish goalkeeper signed in 2000 as injury cover.
Joel Le Hir, £28,275: Paul Le Guen-appointed physiotherapist from 2006 to 2007.
John Greig £40,000: Played for club from 1961-78. Managed Rangers from 1978 to 1983. Later became a director.
John McClelland, £225,000: Appointed a director in 2000. Chairman from 2002 to 2004. Resigned last year.
Julien Rodriguez, £638,000: French centre-half signed from Monaco in 2005 for £1million. Left for Marseille in 2007.
Kevin Muscat, £1million: Australian defender joined from Wolves in 2002 on free transfer. Joined Millwall in 2003.
Kris Boyd, £215,000: Signed from Kilmarnock in 2006 for £500,000. Left in 2010.
Libor Sionko, £178,000: Czech midfielder signed from Austria Vienna in 2006. Played 18 matches before signing Copenhagen in 2007.
Lorenzo Amoruso, £639,000: Italian defender signed from Fiorentina for £4million in 1997. Moved to Blackburn Rovers for £1.4million in 2003.
Martin Bain, £249,000: Chief executive of Rangers from 2005 to 2011. Resigned after Murray sold club to Whyte.
Marvin Andrews, £316,025: Centre-half from Trinidad and Tobago joined from Livingston in 2004.
Michael Ball and Dick Advocaat clash
Maurice Ross, £120,000: Played 78 games for Rangers from 2000 to 2005, before moving to Sheffield Wednesday.
Michael Ball, £1.4million: Left-back signed from Everton in 2001 for £6.5million. Moved to PSV Eindhoven in 2005.
Michael Mols, £260,000: Dutch striker joined Rangers under Dick Advocaat. He arrived in 1999 and spent five years at Ibrox.
Mikel Arteta, £674,603: Spanish midfielder joined in 2002 and played 50 matches, scoring 12 goals. Moved to Everton.
Nacho Novo, £1.2million: Spanish striker joined in 2004 from Dundee for £450,000.
Neil McCann, £500,000: Winger joined from Hearts in 1998 for £2million.
Nuno Capucho, £970,000: Portuguese winger who arrived in 2003 for £700,000.
Olivier Bernard, £224,000: French defender arrived on a free transfer in 2005.
Paolo Vanoli, £592,000: Italian left-back joined from Bologna in 2003 and played in 28 matches.
Paul Le Guen, £201,250: French manager replaced Alex McLeish in 2006. Left in January 2007 after a string of poor results.
Pedro Mendes, £1million: Portuguese midfielder joined in 2008 for £3million. Joined Vituria Guimares in 2010.
Stefan Klos spent eight years between the sticks at Ibrox from 1998-2006Stefan Klos spent eight years between the sticks at Ibrox from 1998-2006
Peter Lovenkrands, £902,000: Danish winger arrived in 2000 from Akademisk Boldklub for £1.3million.
Ronald De Boer, £1.2million: Dutch midfielder joined in 2000 under Advocaat.
Ronald Waterreus, £510,000: Dutch goalkeeper joined Rangers in 2004 from Manchester City.
Sasa Papac, £319,000: Bosnian left-back arrived in 2006 from Austria Vienna for £450,000.
Sotirios Kyrgiakos £532,200: Greek centre-half signed from Panathinaikos in 2005.
Stefan Klos, £2million: German international keeper signed in 1999 for £800,000. Join Bayer Leverkusen in 2007.
Stephane Wiertelak, £28,275: French fitness-physiotherapy coach joined Rangers in 2006 under Le Guen
Steven Davis, £600,000: Northern Ireland midfielder. Left for Southampton in the summer.
Steven Smith, £7500: Defender came through youth ranks and made debut in 2004.
Steven Thompson, £485,000: Joined from Dundee United in 2003 for £200,000. Went to Cardiff City in 2006.
Tero Penttila, £140,000: Finnish defender joined in 1999 for £300,000 from Haka Valkeakoski. Left in 2002 to join HJK Helsinki.
Thomas Buffel, £1.2million: Belgian midfielder joined in 2005 for £2.3million from Feyenoord.
Tore Andre Flo, £1.3million: Norwegian striker joined from Chelsea in 2000 for £12million. Sold for £6.75million to Sunderland in 2002.
Yves Colleau, £106,200: Former French midfielder served as assistant to Le Guen at Rennes, Lyon and Rangers from 2006 to 2007.
Zurab Khizanishvili, £405,000: Georgian defender joined on a free transfer from Dundee in 2003. Moved to Blackburn Rovers in 2005.
Granfondo said:
Big post of boredom quoted
Facts:let's look at what Rangers actually won between 2001 and 2010. I'll start at the 2001/02 season since any player playing in the previous season would have had a contract signed in 2000 which is before the Murray Group began using EBTs.
2001/02: Scottish Cup & League Cup Double (Celtic won the league)
2002/03: Treble (Rangers win the league by one goal)
2003/04: Nothing (Celtic win league and Scottish Cup)
2004/05: League & League Cup Double (Celtic win Scottish Cup, Rangers win league by one point)
2005/06: Nothing (Celtic win league & League Cup)
2006/07: Nothing (Celtic win league & Scottish Cup)
2007/08: Scottish Cup & League Cup Double (Celtic win league)
2008/09: League & Scottish Cup Double (Celtic win League Cup)
2009/10: League & League Cup Double
In nine seasons Rangers won four league titles, four Scottish Cups and five League Cups. By comparison Celtic won five league titles, three Scottish Cups and two League Cups. Hibs and Livingston were the two other sides to win a League Cup during the spell, Dundee United and Hearts both lifted the Scottish Cup.
So Celtic won the league more than Rangers during this period. It was only your poor record in cup competitions that stopped you beating us overall for trophies during this period. Unfair advantage? Where?
Would you all like a cup for your tears?
Your team are playing in Europe tonight, and your post is all about The Rangers? Quelle Surprise.Edited by 2013ZetecS on Thursday 5th November 22:00
The EBT saga will drag on and on if old rangers appeal this ruling,but who is funding this sham?
If these EBTs are not earnings but loans why are the Rangers creditors not asking for the loans to be repaid?
On a more important subject, we were piss poor again last night and the blame falls firmly on the centre back positions and the striking options. Imo
If these EBTs are not earnings but loans why are the Rangers creditors not asking for the loans to be repaid?
On a more important subject, we were piss poor again last night and the blame falls firmly on the centre back positions and the striking options. Imo
bluenosewrx said:
Mine is "The Helicopter is changing direction"
helicopter sunday
or when Juninho scored against hearts with his EBT in place
or the EBT Treble
the list goes on, will post more later
Not really sure why you would post more, but if you like celebrating the downfall of your club, batter on in. helicopter sunday
or when Juninho scored against hearts with his EBT in place
or the EBT Treble
the list goes on, will post more later
Edited by bluenosewrx on Friday 6th November 12:21
One and only post on the EBT subject as don't want the troll to derail the thread any further
From https://www.pumptax.com/wp-content/u...rray291012....
page 9, Lines 34 and 35.
"Mr Black ( Murray) did not consider the trust (EBT's) as a means of tax avoidance, but rather as a means of rewarding and retaining loyal employees. So far as Rangers were concerned it enabled the Club to attract players who would not otherwise have been affordable."
From https://www.pumptax.com/wp-content/u...rray291012....
page 9, Lines 34 and 35.
"Mr Black ( Murray) did not consider the trust (EBT's) as a means of tax avoidance, but rather as a means of rewarding and retaining loyal employees. So far as Rangers were concerned it enabled the Club to attract players who would not otherwise have been affordable."
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