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You seem to be answering questions about Celtic's failings but throwing in Chelsea's. But they are not in dispute. Last season was an embarrassment.
I can't get my head around how anyone can think a 7-0 defeat is not an embarrassment? Plenty of managers have said they are embarrassed by their team's performance in the past. I've seem many press conferences where managers have said outright that they were embarrassed by what they'd just witnessed, and even apologised to fans. I seem to recall some clubs refunding ticket prices to fans following a hiding. I think Sunderland did it when they lost 8-0 at Southampton.
I'm not overly concerned, just astonished. The manager says he's not embarrassed following a 7-0 drubbing and everyone just nods and accepts it. You guys really need to set your bar higher. You may not win in Barcelona, but you shouldn't be accepting a 7-0 defeat so lightly.
You seem to be answering questions about Celtic's failings but throwing in Chelsea's. But they are not in dispute. Last season was an embarrassment.
I can't get my head around how anyone can think a 7-0 defeat is not an embarrassment? Plenty of managers have said they are embarrassed by their team's performance in the past. I've seem many press conferences where managers have said outright that they were embarrassed by what they'd just witnessed, and even apologised to fans. I seem to recall some clubs refunding ticket prices to fans following a hiding. I think Sunderland did it when they lost 8-0 at Southampton.
I'm not overly concerned, just astonished. The manager says he's not embarrassed following a 7-0 drubbing and everyone just nods and accepts it. You guys really need to set your bar higher. You may not win in Barcelona, but you shouldn't be accepting a 7-0 defeat so lightly.
It would be embarrassing if Celtic were a top flight team but they aren't.
I doubt they would be good enough for the EPL or even the championship. That's no disrespect to Celtic but the SPL dwarves in comparison to other top flight leagues due to £££. So to expect anything other than a drubbing is unrealistic. Imagine if QPR or similar went against Barca...
end of the day the players got to go to Nou Camp and play the best team in the world. The fans probably had a nice time in Barca.
I doubt they would be good enough for the EPL or even the championship. That's no disrespect to Celtic but the SPL dwarves in comparison to other top flight leagues due to £££. So to expect anything other than a drubbing is unrealistic. Imagine if QPR or similar went against Barca...
end of the day the players got to go to Nou Camp and play the best team in the world. The fans probably had a nice time in Barca.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I may not be a genius but I can format texts properly.
You seem to be answering questions about Celtic's failings but throwing in Chelsea's. But they are not in dispute. Last season was an embarrassment.
I can't get my head around how anyone can think a 7-0 defeat is not an embarrassment? Plenty of managers have said they are embarrassed by their team's performance in the past. I've seem many press conferences where managers have said outright that they were embarrassed by what they'd just witnessed, and even apologised to fans. I seem to recall some clubs refunding ticket prices to fans following a hiding. I think Sunderland did it when they lost 8-0 at Southampton.
I'm not overly concerned, just astonished. The manager says he's not embarrassed following a 7-0 drubbing and everyone just nods and accepts it. You guys really need to set your bar higher. You may not win in Barcelona, but you shouldn't be accepting a 7-0 defeat so lightly.
Southampton v Sunderland should be two equal teams. There shouldn't be a big gap between them. You seem to be answering questions about Celtic's failings but throwing in Chelsea's. But they are not in dispute. Last season was an embarrassment.
I can't get my head around how anyone can think a 7-0 defeat is not an embarrassment? Plenty of managers have said they are embarrassed by their team's performance in the past. I've seem many press conferences where managers have said outright that they were embarrassed by what they'd just witnessed, and even apologised to fans. I seem to recall some clubs refunding ticket prices to fans following a hiding. I think Sunderland did it when they lost 8-0 at Southampton.
I'm not overly concerned, just astonished. The manager says he's not embarrassed following a 7-0 drubbing and everyone just nods and accepts it. You guys really need to set your bar higher. You may not win in Barcelona, but you shouldn't be accepting a 7-0 defeat so lightly.
Your team played Barcelona and have been extremely lucky. You guys have more physical players, which Barcelona don't like, and just parked the bus in an attempt to kill the game. Celtic don't have those types of players and that type of play doesn't suit the Scottish league. It also wouldn't be tolerated by Celtic fans.
Celtic actually had more possession of the ball than Chelsea managed. Over 2 legs Chelsea managed 2 corners, had 5 attempts on goal with 3 goals.
Against Celtic Barcelona had 15 attempts and 10 on target.
Against Chelsea they had 25 attempts and 15 on target in the first leg, then 23 attempts with 14 on target. They hit the crossbar, missed great chances and a penalty.
Chelsea could and should have been on the other end of a right thumping. That's football for you. Chelsea were outclassed every bit as much as Celtic, but managed to get the luck needed. A bit like when Celtic beat Barcelona too.
That was a team without Suarez or Neymar as well that Chelsea faced.
How high do you expect Celtic to set the bar? Scottish football isn't hyped up to the max like English football with marketing and have rich owners either. There's isn't the money to buy £20m+ players. There is no hope in hell Celtic can compete with Barcelona. Although there has been a couple of spankings, there has been a lot of games that have been very tight.
7-0 is embarrassing. If the football world wasn't so interested in trying to keep all the money within a select little crowd, there wouldn't be such a gulf in class. I think the reason that people aren't as upset over it as you think they should be is most fans are realistic. 7-0 is too far,but it was one of those night where everything went wrong. It won't happen again.
Losing heavily to Barcelona, given the funding and quality difference, isn't drastically worse than watching some of the massively funded teams in England struggling with mediocre European teams.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Quite often non league sides play an EPL team in the FA Cup. The non league side rarely wins, but those games don't tend to end 7-0.
Many years ago when I started working my first boss gave me some great advice. "Never try and rationalise something that is wrong."
Half the time in these games the big teams put out a weakened team and don't exactly apply themselves. Barcelona rested their best players the game before for a home game against Celtic.Many years ago when I started working my first boss gave me some great advice. "Never try and rationalise something that is wrong."
Celtic have played hundreds of times in Europe and have never lost 7-0 either. It doesn't happen every game very much like the FA Cup games.
Where are you trying to head with your point?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
That's all I'm saying. If you and I can see it, why can't the manager and many of your fans.
The guy is new in the job and he's taken over a squad that was down in the dumps. It was really lacking in confidence and belief.Rarely does a manager go over the top and criticise his team. It will happen, but more often than not a manager will do his best to cover up.
All managers do it, I'm surprised that you're surprised.
Most fans are trying to get behind the team too. It's a new start and it has to build. There's no point getting on their backs.
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Driver101 said:
The guy is new in the job and he's taken over a squad that was down in the dumps. It was really lacking in confidence and belief.
Rarely does a manager go over the top and criticise his team. It will happen, but more often than not a manager will do his best to cover up.
All managers do it, I'm surprised that you're surprised.
Most fans are trying to get behind the team too. It's a new and start and it has to build. There's no point getting on their backs.
Those are all fair comments. But I just think when your team loses 7-0 don't say it's not embarrassing. Because it is. He can say that, and then talk of rebuilding, gulf in class etc. A 7-0 defeat is unacceptable, and it needs to be said. He needs to set a culture. You may not win the CL, we all know that, but you shouldn't be anyone's whipping boys. Rarely does a manager go over the top and criticise his team. It will happen, but more often than not a manager will do his best to cover up.
All managers do it, I'm surprised that you're surprised.
Most fans are trying to get behind the team too. It's a new and start and it has to build. There's no point getting on their backs.
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Edited by Driver101 on Thursday 15th September 15:49
how many teams equal or better than Celtic have been drubbed by Barca?
you can catch them on an off day, sure but they don't come along very often and even less regularly in the champions league - over two legs its slightly different, but anyone can go to their place and get a scuffing
put it behind you, focus on the next game and win the next CL home game...
you can catch them on an off day, sure but they don't come along very often and even less regularly in the champions league - over two legs its slightly different, but anyone can go to their place and get a scuffing
put it behind you, focus on the next game and win the next CL home game...
Hapoel Be'er Sheva giving Inter Milan a tough game in Italy. They could be winning.
The same team Celtic scored 5 at home against.Funny game football.
Not surprised about Barton. Sounds like the manager is a crumbling, jibbering wreck too.
How come PH keeps finding Rangers supporting unsuccessful trolls? How many have we gained and lost, usually to being banned, now? It's bizarre.
Scotland's game just about to start on BBC1.
The same team Celtic scored 5 at home against.Funny game football.
Not surprised about Barton. Sounds like the manager is a crumbling, jibbering wreck too.
How come PH keeps finding Rangers supporting unsuccessful trolls? How many have we gained and lost, usually to being banned, now? It's bizarre.
Scotland's game just about to start on BBC1.
Edited by Driver101 on Thursday 15th September 21:02
Nanook said:
Granfondo said:
Nearly as embarrassing as the new boys getting pumped on Saturday! 
Then wrecking the place just like the old supporters did in Manchester when they got humped!
I thought this was the Celtic thread? Talking about the awful Celtic result against Barcelona?Then wrecking the place just like the old supporters did in Manchester when they got humped!
The pathetic bigotry is more of a problem, in my eyes, than the awful standard, when you think about Scottish football.
I enjoyed the game the other night, Barca were on form, it's great watching them play so well.
You might not know it but on Saturday last, the "new boys" (Rangers) were beaten 5-0 ("pumped") by Celtic.
Nanook said:
Katzenjammer said:
Yes, this is the Celtic thread, where topics vary and sometimes intertwine.
You might not know it but on Saturday last, the "new boys" (Rangers) were beaten 5-0 ("pumped") by Celtic.
I'm well aware, I watched the game. It was almost as funny as the Barca game.You might not know it but on Saturday last, the "new boys" (Rangers) were beaten 5-0 ("pumped") by Celtic.
But the topic was the Barca Celtic game, and the defense is "Aye but we beat yoooz at the weekend" as if that's remotely relevant to the topic at hand.
It's sad.
te they were! P.S. What's wrong with a Celtic supporter on a Celtic thread talking about Celtic pumping Sevco?
Edited by Granfondo on Friday 16th September 13:56
technodup said:
Katzenjammer said:
the "new boys" (Rangers) were beaten 5-0 ("pumped") by Celtic.
No they weren't.You da man, with your simple "no they weren't " statement. You are a such a winner, may you hold your head high for the rest of the day knowing that you are the master of fact and conciseness. Now where's your Ranger thread?
Edited by JuniorD on Saturday 17th September 08:59
JuniorD said:
technodup said:
Katzenjammer said:
the "new boys" (Rangers) were beaten 5-0 ("pumped") by Celtic.
No they weren't.You da man, with your simple "no they weren't " statement. You are a such a winner, may you hold your head high for the rest of the day knowing that you are the master of fact and conciseness. Now where's your Ranger thread?
Edited by JuniorD on Saturday 17th September 08:59
Nanook said:
Terzo123 said:
What happened at the weekend?
We remain unbeaten. 3 points clear at the top of the league, with a game in hand. Not bad after only 5 games.
So you don't look at it as 2 dropped points? Celtic really should have taken all 3, they are by far the better team.We remain unbeaten. 3 points clear at the top of the league, with a game in hand. Not bad after only 5 games.
In the space of a week, one great win, one awful defeat, and one mediocre draw.
play a s
t team and have a great day - big winplay an amazing team and have a bad day - big loss
play an OK team, have a so-so day - draw.
I always expect Caley to give Celtic a game, and not losing there is often a relief.
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