The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol2)

[Yazza54]

DukeDickson said:

vonuber said:

I suspect the recent years of inflation in the transfer market of fees and wages are a reason why Utd spend is so low.

Example: Keane for £3.75 million, Cantona £1.2million etc.
If these were done today (which is what City have effectively had to do) I suspect they might cost just a tad more than that.

Still all credit to Ferguson, he has done a great job at Utd.

Plus the sizeable and alightly fortuitous cheque from the deep pockets of Real Madrid for Ronaldo. That's a none too common occurrence which skews the figures somewhat.
One would expect City to do a bit of pruning at some point, which would also affect the difference.


BTW, has anyone mentioned a near doubling of the British record fee paid for one JS Veron

Surely ronaldo had value added by what fergie moulded him
Into.

[Corsair7]

Bitter comments on here are really sad. No doubt that City would be nowhere without the huge cash injection, but you still have to earn the Premiership by being the best. I still think City dont have the best team technically, both Chelsea and United are better teams with better players. But if they win, they'll deserve it because of their effort.

you know, kind of hope they win it by the goal difference earned from the 6-1 win over you lot earlier in the season.....

One things for sure, one of these 'super teams' from Manchester are going to end the season with nothing....

Not sure which yet, it aint over til its over.

[Raja]

City will drop points still imo.

[CIE560]

Raja said:

City will drop points still imo.

I hope you're right but I'm resigned to losing the title after the way we played today, not the result.

Cheer me up with a ride in the Maserati!

Newcastle will be tough in all seriousness and they're great, but I can't see it at the moment.

[NailedOn]

Cookie172 said:

Terrible game of football. Who on earth thought it would be a good idea to let Niall Quinn commentate?

I watched the game down a busy pub. The only redemption was that the place was too noisy to hear Sky.

Niall Quinn is the new Andy Gray, AKA vacuous pimplehead.

[HeatonNorris]

Yazza54 said:

Surely ronaldo had value added by what fergie moulded him
Into.

The figures are skewed by transfers like that -but also because we do swell our coffers with sales of youth players who are fantastic premiership players, but not quite good enough for the top 3 or 4.

[NailedOn]

CIE560 said:

I hope you're right but I'm resigned to losing the title after the way we played today, not the result.

Cheer me up with a ride in the Maserati!

Newcastle will be tough in all seriousness and they're great, but I can't see it at the moment.

William Hill have City at 8/13 to win at Newcastle.
Frankly, it is grim that it has come to this - clutching at straws. Tonight's team were inept. I've seen some lousy performances and this was up there with them.

I agree about the Sheikh's billions. Essentially City are a PR machine for the UAE. There has been interesting coverage on just why they (the UAE) should want such a profile and part of the answer is they apparently fear being ignored by the US.
Just a shame that this PR exercise has mucked up the EPL.

Still, I'm off to Sunderland. As ever, in hope rather than expectation.

[Puggit]

Amusing to read all the sour grapes about City's money, but the fact is that Murdoch's money and the Champions League money has already ruined football in Europe and in England & Wales. United were a massive part of that process and have reaped the rewards handsomely so far.

Ain't payback a bh?

[HeatonNorris]

Puggit said:

Amusing to read all the sour grapes about City's money, but the fact is that Murdoch's money and the Champions League money has already ruined football in Europe and in England & Wales. United were a massive part of that process and have reaped the rewards handsomely so far.

Ain't payback a bh?

Earned vs gifted....

The EPL money was anyone's in the early days, SAF was the one who saw this and grasped the first couple of titles, setting the club up nicely.

Anyone could have done it, but only United and Arsenal really saw the future and made it work for them.

[CIE560]

I actually can't believe what the fk they did tonight.

[im]

CIE560 said:

I actually can't believe what the fk they did tonight.

Yes it was poor tbh.

I suspect city could fk it all up this Sunday though. you may not be done yet.

[CIE560]

im said:

CIE560 said:

I actually can't believe what the fk they did tonight.

Yes it was poor tbh.

I suspect city could fk it all up this Sunday though. you may not be done yet.

Nah, we're done. It's over.

[North West Tom]

Rumours coming in that Fletcher is going to retire due to his illness. Sad if true.

[CIE560]

Very sad indeed, hopefully not tonight of all nights. Fletch has been good for us.

[GTO-3R]

4-5-1 load of bks that never works. City come out with Aguero, DaSilva, Nasri and Tevez which to me is a statement of intent. What do we do? Put Giggs and Park on who have hardly played this season and both were garbage. Soon as Welbeck came on immediately you could see Rooney getting more of the ball and us looking more attacking! Fergie played safe and it's cost us big time!

[lazyitus]

CIE560 said:

im said:

CIE560 said:

I actually can't believe what the fk they did tonight.

Yes it was poor tbh.

I suspect city could fk it all up this Sunday though. you may not be done yet.

Nah, we're done. It's over.

Yeah, this. As much as I'd normally say this so I don't lose in my head, there is no way City will piss this up the wall at Newcastle. The league was won last night. Period.

And to be frank, with the mood at United at the moment, it wouldn't surprise me if United struggled to get points against Swansea and Sunderland.

We've had ample chance to put this title to bed in the last few weeks but we aren't good enough to do it, evidently. City kept the bottle and as much as I hate it, Mancini has been brilliant.

[MiniMan64]

GTO-3R said:

4-5-1 load of bks that never works. City come out with Aguero, DaSilva, Nasri and Tevez which to me is a statement of intent. What do we do? Put Giggs and Park on who have hardly played this season and both were garbage. Soon as Welbeck came on immediately you could see Rooney getting more of the ball and us looking more attacking! Fergie played safe and it's cost us big time!

Agreed. We looked so much better the minute Welbeck was on. Why we felt the need to 4-5-1 like that I do not know, playing for a draw is not our style and honestly, they were going to score. We should have set-up as we've played most of the season, Welbeck and Valencia on and go at them.

Better to have a go and lose than fanny around without a shot on goal and lose. Well not really but you get the point.

Very disappointed this morning.

[E38Ross]

as a complete neutral yesterday as to the game but have to say city deserved to win that well and truly i'm afraid.

also - hilarious amount of bitterness in here regarding money spent over the last 15+ years between the clubs. it seems like it's just jealousy. Man U haven't had to spend so much because they were already a huge club and so their youth squad brings in cracking players they don't need to buy. what if it was the other way round, would Man U have purchased Scholes, Giggbs, Beckham, Keane, Irwin, Neville etc etc etc; or rather, if they had youth players not so good would they have made other purchases?

it's irrelevant. sorry, i'm going to get flamed here but having seen all of the bickering here i think i'd rather city to win it.

[mattviatura]

Fred Done you utter wker.

[North West Tom]

lazyitus said:

Yeah, this. As much as I'd normally say this so I don't lose in my head, there is no way City will piss this up the wall at Newcastle. The league was won last night. Period.

Are you doing a Mancini?

"Iz feeneeshed".