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The Hypno-Toad
6,998 posts
74 months
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Could be the thin end of a very long edge. As cash strapped teams are getting desperate for funds more and more of them will agree to this with the arguement, "Well we either lose the strip or we lose the club," If you support any team below the Premiership, this could well be coming to your town soon. 
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mickk
11,827 posts
111 months
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They mentioned on the radio this morning about the stadium seats, will they change from blue to red?
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dickymint
11,404 posts
127 months
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It's bad enough changing the name of a ground but your clubs colour and badge not to mention the nickname????????
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Whitean3
1,371 posts
67 months
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This is so wrong, and incredibly disrespectful for the club and it's history (I'm not a Cardiff fan by the way).
Why didn't the Malaysians buy Wrexham, if they wanted a Welsh team in red with a dragon on the chest?
If I were a died-in-the-wool Cardiff fan, I'd be livid. But it can't be stopped as the club needs the money; I'd be urging all of these fans/supporters clubs to only buy the blue away kit and boycott the red home kit
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Allblackdup
3,099 posts
77 months
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Whitean3 said: This is so wrong, and incredibly disrespectful for the club and it's history (I'm not a Cardiff fan by the way).
Why didn't the Malaysians buy Wrexham, if they wanted a Welsh team in red with a dragon on the chest?
If I were a died-in-the-wool Cardiff fan, I'd be livid. But it can't be stopped as the club needs the money; I'd be urging all of these fans/supporters clubs to only buy the blue away kit and boycott the red home kit Well said. Its my home town club, i follow results and i've been to the odd game or two which is as far as it goes but i'm still shocked the owners are doing this. Tradition and history gone! As above, its all about the money. The owners think its better longer term and will attract eastern investment in the club and at the end of the day compared to the suggestion that they pull out altogether if they don't do this, the club clearly doesn't have a choice no matter what anyone thinks. For city fans, if the investment works and they reach the premier league etc, i'm sure it'll be a fantastic achievement but i think there will always be the issue that the club has lots its identity and it may not be the same as if this hadn't gone ahead....
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E31Shrew
4,890 posts
61 months
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Apparently losing £1,000,000 a month. I guess it's a choice of no club or play in red.
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Booey
6,499 posts
49 months
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Disgraceful. The fans should all protest by refusing to buy ANY new shirts. f  k the eastern man and it's favourite colours.
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London424
2,707 posts
44 months
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E31Shrew said: Apparently losing £1,000,000 a month. I guess it's a choice of no club or play in red. If that's the case that is absolutely nuts. How does a team get into that position? I can understand that over a year but a month! It's not like they were in the Champions league and then lost that revenue. How have they managed that then?
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hornetrider
Original Poster
40,732 posts
74 months
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London424 said: If that's the case that is absolutely nuts. How does a team get into that position? I can understand that over a year but a month! It's not like they were in the Champions league and then lost that revenue. How have they managed that then? They've not long built a new stadium, maybe the plans presumed Premier League by now? I also believe they were paying quite high wages a few years ago under whatsisface dodgy director.
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Goughie
569 posts
58 months
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Not entirely sure I see the huge ruckus here. Most clubs accept sponsorship of shirts, grounds, training kit, seats in the dugout and anything else they can slap a logo onto. Even players are sponsored at most clubs each game. For a couple of hundred you too can have your name next to your favourite player in the programme!
The badge is being redesigned. The dragon was always on there, just the size and prominence of the dragon and bluebird is being swapped. As for the red kit, well I don't suppose Wrexham, being a non-league team are seen as much of a rival by most Cardiff fans.
I do get the emotional atachment to the badge and the kit, but at the end of the day you either own the club as fans (a la Barca) or you dance to the owner's tune. It's a business for most owners, don't forget.
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E31Shrew
4,890 posts
61 months
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^^^^^^ Just about sums it up!
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dickymint
11,404 posts
127 months
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The man to blame is Sam Hammam................
Cardiff City
Having sold his interests in Wimbledon, Hammam purchased control of Cardiff City at the end of 2000, where he quickly picked up where he left off with Wimbledon. Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white, [4],[5] although it was decided against this.
At Cardiff he became a cult-hero with fans for taking part in their head-patting 'do the Ayatollah' chant. One such game saw him performing the celebration during an infamous 2-1 home win in the FA Cup against then-Premier League side Leeds United in 2002. This, along with other aspects of his behaviour during the match, was blamed for contributing to the subsequent violence between Leeds and Cardiff fans at the end of the match.[6]
After failing to get the new stadium plans agreed by Cardiff Council due to concerns over financial security in 2006, Hammam agreed to a takeover by a consortium led by new chairman Peter Ridsdale and including local businessman Paul Guy.
In March 2008 Cardiff City began a court case against financial backers Langston over the repayment of a loan believed to be worth around £31 million. During the hearing the barrister representing the club named Sam Hammam as the man they believe to be behind the company
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SwanJack
1,330 posts
141 months
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dickymint said: The man to blame is Sam Hammam................
Cardiff City
Having sold his interests in Wimbledon, Hammam purchased control of Cardiff City at the end of 2000, where he quickly picked up where he left off with Wimbledon. Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white, [4],[5] although it was decided against this.
At Cardiff he became a cult-hero with fans for taking part in their head-patting 'do the Ayatollah' chant. One such game saw him performing the celebration during an infamous 2-1 home win in the FA Cup against then-Premier League side Leeds United in 2002. This, along with other aspects of his behaviour during the match, was blamed for contributing to the subsequent violence between Leeds and Cardiff fans at the end of the match.[6]
After failing to get the new stadium plans agreed by Cardiff Council due to concerns over financial security in 2006, Hammam agreed to a takeover by a consortium led by new chairman Peter Ridsdale and including local businessman Paul Guy.
In March 2008 Cardiff City began a court case against financial backers Langston over the repayment of a loan believed to be worth around £31 million. During the hearing the barrister representing the club named Sam Hammam as the man they believe to be behind the company But at the time all Cardiff fans thought he was playing a blinder.
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sleep envy
59,273 posts
118 months
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dickymint said: It's bad enough changing the name of a ground but your clubs colour and badge not to mention the nickname???????? What, you mean like Man Utd & Arsenal?
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hornetrider
Original Poster
40,732 posts
74 months
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The new Swans away kit goes on sale today. It's red. 
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The Nur
5,412 posts
54 months
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hornetrider said: The new Swans away kit goes on sale today. It's red. 
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hornetrider
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40,732 posts
74 months
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oj121
1,463 posts
41 months
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Storm in a tea cup IMO! Didnt Leeds change to White with great success?
Id rather support a team in Red than a team that was dissolved! I lost my rugby region, id rather not lose my football team aswell!
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ShawCrossShark
2,012 posts
103 months
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oj121 said: Storm in a tea cup IMO! Didnt Leeds change to White with great success?
Id rather support a team in Red than a team that was dissolved! I lost my rugby region, id rather not lose my football team aswell! Leed schanged to all white in the early sixties in order that they resemble the 1950's all conquering Real side. Prior to that they wore Blue and Yellow shirts. Their colours now are white with bits of blue and yellow. So their colours have never changed, just the predominance of one colour over others Try telling Leeds fans that they are going to play in red, white and black and see just how far you get with that idea  (although they did used to wear red socks at times)
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Killer2005
15,382 posts
97 months
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ShawCrossShark said: Leed schanged to all white in the early sixties in order that they resemble the 1950's all conquering Real side. Prior to that they wore Blue and Yellow shirts. Their colours now are white with bits of blue and yellow. So their colours have never changed, just the predominance of one colour over others Try telling Leeds fans that they are going to play in red, white and black and see just how far you get with that idea (although they did used to wear red socks at times) Used to have a red away shirt too Feel for Cardiff fans on this one, it's not just the kit being changed, it's a whole raft of changes that go to the heart of the club. Also another reason why they may be financially screwed, didn't Cardiff have Ridsdale as a chairman for a while?
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