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Here's a thought why can't men be punits for male sports and a woman for female sports. I want to listen to the opinion of someone how has played at the level and competed in the sport they are talking about.
On the BBC snooker coverage there was a woman saying what it was like to pot a winning ball ia ranking final, it turns out she wasn't even a professional snooker player.
On the BBC snooker coverage there was a woman saying what it was like to pot a winning ball ia ranking final, it turns out she wasn't even a professional snooker player.
J77wck said:
Here's a thought why can't men be punits for male sports and a woman for female sports. I want to listen to the opinion of someone how has played at the level and competed in the sport they are talking about.
Why wouldn't you want to hear Serina Williams giving her opinion on a men's tennis match. John McEnroe has been a pundit for both for years and no one has complained. What happens when the para olympics comes around. Finding disabled pundits who have competed in each sport is going to be tricky. And even if you find them, not everyone makes a suitable pundit. In fact, most don't.
If you want only people who have played AND competed at the same level in the sport they are talking about, Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger are ruled out of being pundits in top level football.
J77wck said:
Here's a thought why can't men be punits for male sports and a woman for female sports. I want to listen to the opinion of someone how has played at the level and competed in the sport they are talking about.
On the BBC snooker coverage there was a woman saying what it was like to pot a winning ball ia ranking final, it turns out she wasn't even a professional snooker player.
But its been perfectly fine for men to comment/pundit/interview on womens sports since year dot. On the BBC snooker coverage there was a woman saying what it was like to pot a winning ball ia ranking final, it turns out she wasn't even a professional snooker player.
A woman reaching the final of the Aussie Open tennis has reached the same 'level' as a man reaching the final of the Aussie Open tennis.
PinkHouse said:
Gordon Hill said:
How has he avoided a good hiding up to now? The hateful prick must take a bodyguard with him everywhere.
Because people are capable of having different opinions without resorting to physical violenceTwigtheWonderkid said:
J77wck said:
Here's a thought why can't men be punits for male sports and a woman for female sports. I want to listen to the opinion of someone how has played at the level and competed in the sport they are talking about.
Why wouldn't you want to hear Serina Williams giving her opinion on a men's tennis match. John McEnroe has been a pundit for both for years and no one has complained. What happens when the para olympics comes around. Finding disabled pundits who have competed in each sport is going to be tricky. And even if you find them, not everyone makes a suitable pundit. In fact, most don't.
If you want only people who have played AND competed at the same level in the sport they are talking about, Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger are ruled out of being pundits in top level football.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
J77wck said:
Here's a thought why can't men be punits for male sports and a woman for female sports. I want to listen to the opinion of someone how has played at the level and competed in the sport they are talking about.
Why wouldn't you want to hear Serina Williams giving her opinion on a men's tennis match. John McEnroe has been a pundit for both for years and no one has complained. What happens when the para olympics comes around. Finding disabled pundits who have competed in each sport is going to be tricky. And even if you find them, not everyone makes a suitable pundit. In fact, most don't.
If you want only people who have played AND competed at the same level in the sport they are talking about, Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger are ruled out of being pundits in top level football.
Your correct Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger don't give opinions on playing top level sport because they haven't but give managerial insight.
J77wck said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
J77wck said:
Here's a thought why can't men be punits for male sports and a woman for female sports. I want to listen to the opinion of someone how has played at the level and competed in the sport they are talking about.
Why wouldn't you want to hear Serina Williams giving her opinion on a men's tennis match. John McEnroe has been a pundit for both for years and no one has complained. What happens when the para olympics comes around. Finding disabled pundits who have competed in each sport is going to be tricky. And even if you find them, not everyone makes a suitable pundit. In fact, most don't.
If you want only people who have played AND competed at the same level in the sport they are talking about, Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger are ruled out of being pundits in top level football.
Your correct Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger don't give opinions on playing top level sport because they haven't but give managerial insight.
J77wck said:
Maybe because Serina williams hasn't played men's tennis or any 5 set match.
Your correct Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger don't give opinions on playing top level sport because they haven't but give managerial insight.
So by that logic, experiential counts, then we should have an all women line up commentating Euro and World Cups seeing as they have won one and got to the final of the other they clearly have much more experience playing big tournament finals, in fact none of the current line up of male pundits have gotten anywhere near a final. Your correct Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger don't give opinions on playing top level sport because they haven't but give managerial insight.
The reality is punditry comes down to the individuals ability to talk and engage with an audience, the content is largely irrelevant. I watch it and see them saying that at 85 minutes 'the players will be tired' like thats some sort of unique insight, it really isn't. But you have to ask, would a female pundit who regularly loses their s
t with other pundits shouting and getting angry, maybe spits into a moving car through a window, still keep their job? Entertaining watch from a few months ago.........posted without comment from me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imk5X6-Xr30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imk5X6-Xr30
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