The Official Liverpool Thread, Volume 4
Discussion
jammy_basturd said:
The truth is that they were more than willing to pay for a striker, but give the events of the past they now have a strict ceiling on what they'll pay for an older player, but more money is available for a younger player.
Do I agree with this policy? Not in every situation, but I still maintain that I hope this is a blessing in disguise and allows our long awaited youth to flourish.
Do you think BR didn't want Sturidge on contract for £15m but did want him on 12 month loan? As that's the line being given.Do I agree with this policy? Not in every situation, but I still maintain that I hope this is a blessing in disguise and allows our long awaited youth to flourish.
Also.
He was 35 when he joined us. Downing was 27 and signed for £18m. Why didn't we have anyone else in mind, a young striker with a sell on value if that's what FSG wanted. Why didn't we sign someone in the Summer window - we had months?
jammy_basturd said:
I think Rodgers was slightly concerned about the scenario where by we sign Sturridge for £15m, that puts an expectation on him, and if he were to flop it would be Henders/Downing all over again.
I completely agree, it's FUBAR, but it's done now and I'm looking to our youth.
We have 20 players in our PL 25 man squad, four play in Goal.I completely agree, it's FUBAR, but it's done now and I'm looking to our youth.
Our youth will play, perhaps more than they should but it might make them better. I watch the Reserve games online and live when I can. We have a few good players but it'll take time to bring some through. 30ish games before the window opens so they'll never have a better chance to shine.
Rodolfo borrell knows the game BR wishes to play and has the young players playing a good system that will fit with BRs vision. (He was the man behind some of what Barca do)
UF said:
jammy_basturd said:
The truth is that they were more than willing to pay for a striker, but give the events of the past they now have a strict ceiling on what they'll pay for an older player, but more money is available for a younger player.
Do I agree with this policy? Not in every situation, but I still maintain that I hope this is a blessing in disguise and allows our long awaited youth to flourish.
Do you think BR didn't want Sturidge on contract for £15m but did want him on 12 month loan? As that's the line being given.Do I agree with this policy? Not in every situation, but I still maintain that I hope this is a blessing in disguise and allows our long awaited youth to flourish.
Also.
He was 35 when he joined us. Downing was 27 and signed for £18m. Why didn't we have anyone else in mind, a young striker with a sell on value if that's what FSG wanted. Why didn't we sign someone in the Summer window - we had months?
Meanwhile the latest crap theory is that BR didn't buy Sturridge for 15 million because of the pressure that fee would have on the player. FFS I read that right 15 million and not 35 million.
The truth is BR never had the option to sign the kid for 15 million. We all know what parasites our owners are. Well most of us do anyway.
hornetrider said:
DSLiverpool said:
How massive is the Sunderland game - minimum is a draw methinks
Do you think so? This was always going to be a tough start.Tough yes but we have to take something from WBA, Sunderland and Norwich in any season strikers or not. If we can't then where are we going to get points from?
I think scumbag maybe a tad harsh for people that removed our debt and stopped us going into administration, no matter if they are doing what you expect them too!
There was not a massive que of people wanting to buy us remember! Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
There was not a massive que of people wanting to buy us remember! Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
TTmonkey said:
UF said:
We have 20 players in our PL 25 man squad, four play in Goal.
The way your goalie has been recently you might think about playing with a couple on the pitch at th same time. 
m3sye said:
I think scumbag maybe a tad harsh for people that removed our debt and stopped us going into administration, no matter if they are doing what you expect them too!
There was not a massive que of people wanting to buy us remember! Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
I think you're being too lenient there sye. I mean, sure they saved us from administration, sure they've been involved in some of our best ever commercial contracts and sure, they've pumped more than £100m into the team since they bought us.There was not a massive que of people wanting to buy us remember! Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
But they also sold PFK and Poulsen. Scumbags!!!
I don't blame BR for not wanting Sturridge in the least, I don't rate him at all. Fact is BR wanted Dempsey (dont really rate him either, last year was his only good season) but anyway somehow, somewhere in the management chain, they all f
ked up.
At 7m for a 29 year old, that is not a significant sum. 3 year contract, he still has some value at 32. Coupled with him being a Yank, marketing opportunities etc it would seem it should have been a no brainer. That said, there is a sliding scale at which the price becomes too high. However in this case, for me, it wasn't too high.
So, in the meetings, why was it never said 'we won't pay more than X and if the price goes up more than X what is plan B'.
It was a ridiculous fk up, and no mistake. We can only hope st like this never happens again.
ked up. At 7m for a 29 year old, that is not a significant sum. 3 year contract, he still has some value at 32. Coupled with him being a Yank, marketing opportunities etc it would seem it should have been a no brainer. That said, there is a sliding scale at which the price becomes too high. However in this case, for me, it wasn't too high.
So, in the meetings, why was it never said 'we won't pay more than X and if the price goes up more than X what is plan B'.
It was a ridiculous f
k up, and no mistake. We can only hope st like this never happens again.m3sye said:
Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
I wonder why they didn't look elsewhere given they had all summer and £15m to spend?October we have six games and all but the Derby are at home.
UF said:
m3sye said:
Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
I wonder why they didn't look elsewhere given they had all summer and £15m to spend?October we have six games and all but the Derby are at home.
t at home!jammy_basturd said:
m3sye said:
I think scumbag maybe a tad harsh for people that removed our debt and stopped us going into administration, no matter if they are doing what you expect them too!
There was not a massive que of people wanting to buy us remember! Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
I think you're being too lenient there sye. I mean, sure they saved us from administration, sure they've been involved in some of our best ever commercial contracts and sure, they've pumped more than £100m into the team since they bought us.There was not a massive que of people wanting to buy us remember! Its well documented by people who tend to be right he was offered the chance to buy Sturridge but wanted to loan him because of possible temperament issues!
But they also sold PFK and Poulsen. Scumbags!!!
Nor did they stop us going into administration. Again, revisionist nonsense.
Where's the stadium that was part of the purchase deal? Where's the 'we can compete with anyone?'
And NO WAY did BR say to FSG, 'no you're ok, keep your 15 million, I only want the lad if we can get him on loan'. FSG are nothing more than a bunch of liars. Where is the evidence to suggest this took place. If anything we've seen how good FSG are at spin.
And if we want to roll our eyes about the players they sold I'll raise your PFK and Poulsen with Torres.
RedTrident said:
They've not pumped in more than 100 million. That's just complete FSG fanboy propaganda. How much of that 100 million had been generated from player sales that FSG inherited?
Nor did they stop us going into administration. Again, revisionist nonsense.
Where's the stadium that was part of the purchase deal? Where's the 'we can compete with anyone?'
And NO WAY did BR say to FSG, 'no you're ok, keep your 15 million, I only want the lad if we can get him on loan'. FSG are nothing more than a bunch of liars. Where is the evidence to suggest this took place. If anything we've seen how good FSG are at spin.
And if we want to roll our eyes about the players they sold I'll raise your PFK and Poulsen with Torres.
OK they did directly, but if we had carried on with H&G it would not have been long till we were.Nor did they stop us going into administration. Again, revisionist nonsense.
Where's the stadium that was part of the purchase deal? Where's the 'we can compete with anyone?'
And NO WAY did BR say to FSG, 'no you're ok, keep your 15 million, I only want the lad if we can get him on loan'. FSG are nothing more than a bunch of liars. Where is the evidence to suggest this took place. If anything we've seen how good FSG are at spin.
And if we want to roll our eyes about the players they sold I'll raise your PFK and Poulsen with Torres.
Why not wait till Jan Raja, what happens if they spend 15m then on a striker, are they still scumbags for spending a net spend of £28m in one season?
Why even bother bringing Torres into it? sometimes you come across as you genuinely do have a good point then you make yourself look stupid by throwing a comment in you would expect a fan of another team to make. We all know Torres wanted to leave so if you can get 50m for a player do you sell or keep the miserable bast*ard?
I agree there has been a MASSIVE fk up, but were not all perfect and mistakes happen. If Rodgers really thought he was getting Dempsey or Sturridge on loan id rather he didn't panic and just go for anyone (if the 15m is available) we have seen what panic buys get us plenty of times in the past.
k up, but were not all perfect and mistakes happen. If Rodgers really thought he was getting Dempsey or Sturridge on loan id rather he didn't panic and just go for anyone (if the 15m is available) we have seen what panic buys get us plenty of times in the past.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff