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jammy_basturd
8,343 posts
82 months
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Too early for Carra to take over as player-manager?! 
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Dav_s
1,546 posts
62 months
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deadmau5 said: 'Liverpool On 1 July, AVB was appointed as new liverpool manager, after the departure of Kenny Dalglish in May. Eventually liverpool started their season terribly losing 6-1 to chelsea with Fernando Torres scoring a splendid hatrick. Liverpool later in the season defeated Manchester United 3-2 and eventually narrowly got relegated as they were 2 points behind West Ham united.'
From Wikipedia... We're going to beat united?? Sorted!! 
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hornetrider
41,165 posts
75 months
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deadmau5 said: 'Liverpool On 1 July, AVB was appointed as new liverpool manager, after the departure of Kenny Dalglish in May. Eventually liverpool started their season terribly losing 6-1 to chelsea with Fernando Torres scoring a splendid hatrick. Liverpool later in the season defeated Manchester United 3-2 and eventually narrowly got relegated as they were 2 points behind West Ham united.'
From Wikipedia...  Interestingly this was doing the rounds yesterday...  Which is interesting considering the positive press RDM has received since taking over at Chelsea.
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Wombat3
5,205 posts
76 months
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Serious question: what about Martin Jol?
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Keyser Soze
10,997 posts
61 months
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That's very interesting HR, I personally think AVB was given very short shrift by Chelsea and their fans especially once it was clear Terry didn't like him
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GLENRED
5,888 posts
76 months
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hornetrider said: deadmau5 said: 'Liverpool On 1 July, AVB was appointed as new liverpool manager, after the departure of Kenny Dalglish in May. Eventually liverpool started their season terribly losing 6-1 to chelsea with Fernando Torres scoring a splendid hatrick. Liverpool later in the season defeated Manchester United 3-2 and eventually narrowly got relegated as they were 2 points behind West Ham united.'
From Wikipedia... Interestingly this was doing the rounds yesterday... Which is interesting considering the positive press RDM has received since taking over at Chelsea. Anyone else think they both look a bit weird? couldnt imagine either in mighty Liverpool redsox kit
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Raja
3,472 posts
105 months
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paulrockliffe said: Raja said: I must say that the existing premiership names making the headlines fill me with dread. The only name that has potential is AVB as I think the likes of Klopp will not come to us. As for Rafa, I don't doubt for one minute that he wouldn't want the job, nor that he would improve us. Its just that after Dalglish , Rafa would also be a solution from our past. I think its time we started looking to our future as well. For months you've banged on about getting Kenny out, while largely ignoring the fact that he would need to be replaced by *someone*. Now it's happened and the inevitable names are being bandied about and you're filled with dread? I'm sorry, but if it all goes to s  t, you'll just have to take your medicine Mystic Meg.  Just because we had a manager that whilst loved was a complete failure doesn't mean we don't replace him. From where I'm sat the issue for the owners was never about getting rid of him but rather who they replace him with. You keep munching on some of that pie.
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Raja
3,472 posts
105 months
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Keyser Soze said: That's very interesting HR, I personally think AVB was given very short shrift by Chelsea and their fans especially once it was clear Terry didn't like him AVB would be a manager you can build a team with if you really are thinking 4 or 5 years imo.
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hornetrider
41,165 posts
75 months
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Raja said: AVB would be a manager you can build a team with if you really are thinking 4 or 5 years imo. Indeed, and Chelsea could have done so. I was disappointed that RA sacked him as I finally thought that with his appointment the Chavs were going to end their revolving door policy. Alas no - instant success it must be. And our owners have demonstrated the same mentality. We could have exactly the same season as last year just gone next year, only our conversion stats could return to mean and we'd either be in or a whisker away from Top 4.
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Dav_s
1,546 posts
62 months
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Raja said: AVB would be a manager you can build a team with if you really are thinking 4 or 5 years imo. Yep I agree, however will he be able to attract big name signings without having CL football to offer?? This is where I think Rafa would be a better bet (although I now think there's no chance of FSG appointing him).
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Allblackdup
3,102 posts
78 months
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Problem with AVB is the same as the one he had at Chelsea.... The chairman/owner(s)!
After sacking Dalglish, what's to say half way through the year FSG feel he's not doing the job they want him to do and despite saying this summer he's the man to do X,Y,Z over 4 or 5 years, that they just sack him too!
Really hope we don't turn into a revolving door club a la Chelsea.
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hornetrider
41,165 posts
75 months
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Allblackdup said: Problem with AVB is the same as the one he had at Chelsea.... The chairman/owner(s)!
After sacking Dalglish, what's to say half way through the year FSG feel he's not doing the job they want him to do and despite saying this summer he's the man to do X,Y,Z over 4 or 5 years, that they just sack him too! Agree completely. Allblackdup said: Really hope we don't turn into a revolving door club a la Chelsea. NEWSFLASH: we already have 
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Allblackdup
3,102 posts
78 months
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hornetrider said: Allblackdup said: Really hope we don't turn into a revolving door club a la Chelsea. NEWSFLASH: we already have s t!
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norfolkscooby
966 posts
25 months
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GLENRED said: Jurgen Klinsmann or Stevie Nichol, both are stateside right now and have a good reputation over there.
I would like Frank Rijkaard. f k me sideways, given some of the s t names suggested so far I'm surprised the name Mike Bassett hasn't come up! (apologies for my language but some of these suggestions really are absurd)
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ascayman
3,222 posts
86 months
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AVB would be a good appointment for you imo. Just give him a chance eh!
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Piersman2
3,237 posts
69 months
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Raja said: Just because we had a manager that whilst loved was a complete failure doesn't mean we don't replace him. From where I'm sat the issue for the owners was never about getting rid of him but rather who they replace him with.
You keep munching on some of that pie. Unfortunately Raja you've spent the last 12 months becoming increasingly vehement against Dalglish and insisting that he needs to go. I don't think you've ever actually put forward a serious replacement during that time and it appears you're not about to. So whilst you've been content to slag Kenny off (with some justification at times)you've not stopped to think about who would be better and available to replace him. Which makes your continual unsupportive attitude even slightly stranger to me. I'd have been happy for Kenny to continue until someone had been prepared to take over. It'll be sad, if in 2 years, we look back and think of Kenny's time at the helm at the highlight of recent times. Personally, i think much of the lack of support of Kenny from the yanks comes form the Suarez affair. The yanks will be very, very sensitive of the 'brand' and having any link to any form of rascism would be a massive no-no in any corporate office, especially stateside. That whole affair was not well handled, actually I'm struggling to think how it could have been done worse!
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2seas
3,329 posts
53 months
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I'd be happy with Klinsman or AVB.
Damn me for getting caught up in the speculation circus!
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Keyser Soze
10,997 posts
61 months
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Piersman2 said: Unfortunately Raja you've spent the last 12 months becoming increasingly vehement against Dalglish and insisting that he needs to go. I don't think you've ever actually put forward a serious replacement during that time and it appears you're not about to.
So whilst you've been content to slag Kenny off (with some justification at times)you've not stopped to think about who would be better and available to replace him. Which makes your continual unsupportive attitude even slightly stranger to me.
I'd have been happy for Kenny to continue until someone had been prepared to take over. It'll be sad, if in 2 years, we look back and think of Kenny's time at the helm at the highlight of recent times.
Personally, i think much of the lack of support of Kenny from the yanks comes form the Suarez affair. The yanks will be very, very sensitive of the 'brand' and having any link to any form of rascism would be a massive no-no in any corporate office, especially stateside. That whole affair was not well handled, actually I'm struggling to think how it could have been done worse! All Raja said was he didn't think Dalglish was good enough and he should go, it appears your owners agreed, you do know that it wasn't Raja that sacked him don't you Why should Raja start plucking names out of the air for you lot to use as a stick to beat him with
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Wombat3
5,205 posts
76 months
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Piersman2 said: Personally, i think much of the lack of support of Kenny from the yanks comes form the Suarez affair. The yanks will be very, very sensitive of the 'brand' and having any link to any form of rascism would be a massive no-no in any corporate office, especially stateside. That whole affair was not well handled, actually I'm struggling to think how it could have been done worse! Nah, if they were going to bin him for that they would already have done so (and /or had a new manager installed by today). He's been binned because they don't reckon he's the right guy now - and who would put it past him to do the "back me or sack me" thing?
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Uhura fighter
7,018 posts
53 months
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