FA Buggering up junior football
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No parents dont rant and rave, i tell him in the car if you've got the ball loose your marker, and if you haven't mark up, and its not over if he gets past you, get after him
Thats it, im not that knowledgeable to be fair, and a ship has to have the 1 captain.
No point me saying the opp of his manager.
his manager never shuts up tho during a game ive told him a few times makes the nervy if you ask me,
Although when we have a good spells, he shuts up and enjoys them.
Thats it, im not that knowledgeable to be fair, and a ship has to have the 1 captain.
No point me saying the opp of his manager.
his manager never shuts up tho during a game ive told him a few times makes the nervy if you ask me,
Although when we have a good spells, he shuts up and enjoys them.
Mini update
played six won 0, lost 6, ga76, gf1,
my lads not played the last couple of weeks, been away,
One game whilst we were away we lost 19-0 though, i keep dropping hints about jacking it in and going to another team, but alot of his friends hes known since nursery play there.
There's just too much to sort out where we are, and the managers not bothered.
time to jack it in i think
played six won 0, lost 6, ga76, gf1,
my lads not played the last couple of weeks, been away,
One game whilst we were away we lost 19-0 though, i keep dropping hints about jacking it in and going to another team, but alot of his friends hes known since nursery play there.
There's just too much to sort out where we are, and the managers not bothered.
time to jack it in i think
j4ckos mate said:
Mini update
played six won 0, lost 6, ga76, gf1,
my lads not played the last couple of weeks, been away,
One game whilst we were away we lost 19-0 though, i keep dropping hints about jacking it in and going to another team, but a lot of his friends hes known since nursery play there.
There's just too much to sort out where we are, and the managers not bothered.
time to jack it in i think
He'll soon forget his old friends when winning with a new team or at least competing! played six won 0, lost 6, ga76, gf1,
my lads not played the last couple of weeks, been away,
One game whilst we were away we lost 19-0 though, i keep dropping hints about jacking it in and going to another team, but a lot of his friends hes known since nursery play there.
There's just too much to sort out where we are, and the managers not bothered.
time to jack it in i think
A kick about at school/after school is always an option.
My son is looking at moving teams just now and quite happy to go to a team he knows no-one, playing in a decent competitive way overrides that, good to have other pals too
Good luck with whatever though
I quite like the approach my son's team has. We are now U13. Kids get on the squad from a waiting list, not by ability. The teams are oversubscribed.
There's a girl in the team - she's treated like everyone else and expects no different.
We don't train mid-week because no one has the time.
No kid has a future in the game professionally.
The coach is a dad. Main qualification - turns up every week. He tries to get everyone to play in every position even if it means we don't put out the strongest formation, as per FA guidelines.
We are big on 'Respect' and don't F and Blind from the touchline and nor do most of the teams we play.
I'm afraid we don't have the ability across the team to be able to roll it out and build from the back.
A recipe for disaster but we have been promoted 3 seasons out of 4.
The likelihood is that these kids will want to play football for as long as they can. Not turn their back on the game mid-teens because of dreading Saturday morning and the pressure that goes with it.
There's a girl in the team - she's treated like everyone else and expects no different.
We don't train mid-week because no one has the time.
No kid has a future in the game professionally.
The coach is a dad. Main qualification - turns up every week. He tries to get everyone to play in every position even if it means we don't put out the strongest formation, as per FA guidelines.
We are big on 'Respect' and don't F and Blind from the touchline and nor do most of the teams we play.
I'm afraid we don't have the ability across the team to be able to roll it out and build from the back.
A recipe for disaster but we have been promoted 3 seasons out of 4.
The likelihood is that these kids will want to play football for as long as they can. Not turn their back on the game mid-teens because of dreading Saturday morning and the pressure that goes with it.
swisstoni said:
I quite like the approach my son's team has. We are now U13. Kids get on the squad from a waiting list, not by ability. The teams are oversubscribed.
There's a girl in the team - she's treated like everyone else and expects no different.
We don't train mid-week because no one has the time.
No kid has a future in the game professionally.
The coach is a dad. Main qualification - turns up every week. He tries to get everyone to play in every position even if it means we don't put out the strongest formation, as per FA guidelines.
We are big on 'Respect' and don't F and Blind from the touchline and nor do most of the teams we play.
I'm afraid we don't have the ability across the team to be able to roll it out and build from the back.
A recipe for disaster but we have been promoted 3 seasons out of 4.
The likelihood is that these kids will want to play football for as long as they can. Not turn their back on the game mid-teens because of dreading Saturday morning and the pressure that goes with it.
And that ladies and gentlemen,is/was/should be... what "Sport" is all about..There's a girl in the team - she's treated like everyone else and expects no different.
We don't train mid-week because no one has the time.
No kid has a future in the game professionally.
The coach is a dad. Main qualification - turns up every week. He tries to get everyone to play in every position even if it means we don't put out the strongest formation, as per FA guidelines.
We are big on 'Respect' and don't F and Blind from the touchline and nor do most of the teams we play.
I'm afraid we don't have the ability across the team to be able to roll it out and build from the back.
A recipe for disaster but we have been promoted 3 seasons out of 4.
The likelihood is that these kids will want to play football for as long as they can. Not turn their back on the game mid-teens because of dreading Saturday morning and the pressure that goes with it.
Agreed
We. Have a lot in common.
The girl we have iS probably our most committed player
We were up in the hills in the back of beyond this morning
We had 16 on Thursday commit to playing
We had 11 turn up, 2 got hurt so we were down to nine
I put that down to bonfire night and city were on to, but it's not good enough that five parents can't be bothered to turn up
We got beat 25-0
We. Have a lot in common.
The girl we have iS probably our most committed player
We were up in the hills in the back of beyond this morning
We had 16 on Thursday commit to playing
We had 11 turn up, 2 got hurt so we were down to nine
I put that down to bonfire night and city were on to, but it's not good enough that five parents can't be bothered to turn up
We got beat 25-0
Not sure what we could be said that hasn't already be offered as advice. If the option is turning up and losing 25-0 on a cold wet day, or almost any other activity, I can understand why you are struggling to get the players to turn up.
Although I deeply admire the commitment of you other 9, and indeed the parents of those players.
it wouldnt be fair on my lad or the players to post a link of the league while hes still playing,
but suffice to say since our last win. we've let in 350 goals.
After the utter tonking at the weekend we talked about another team,
he didnt want to look out of loyalty, but enough is enough.
on sunday they all played badly but I didn't appreciate them getting nailed for playing in the freezing rain 20 miles away when quite a few didn't bother letting him know they weren't going.
i found one in a different league that's fairly local, they have enough players at the moment but one or two are unreliable, so im hoping he can get his feet under the table between now and xmas.
they are second in the 3rd div of 3 div's.
we went to their training last night with an open mind, expecting it to be quite harsh, fitness based, but it wasn't, jsut a bit of running a few drills and a game the standard wasn't a massive improvement from where he is now,keeper was excellent and that does make the difference i think at that age
so for now we will use it as extra night of training, and if he gets in he can leave his old place,
it was quite pleasing to see them trsut him with the ball instantly, shows hes at a better level than he thinks.
and he scored, and he nutmegged the managers son as well.
but suffice to say since our last win. we've let in 350 goals.
After the utter tonking at the weekend we talked about another team,
he didnt want to look out of loyalty, but enough is enough.
on sunday they all played badly but I didn't appreciate them getting nailed for playing in the freezing rain 20 miles away when quite a few didn't bother letting him know they weren't going.
i found one in a different league that's fairly local, they have enough players at the moment but one or two are unreliable, so im hoping he can get his feet under the table between now and xmas.
they are second in the 3rd div of 3 div's.
we went to their training last night with an open mind, expecting it to be quite harsh, fitness based, but it wasn't, jsut a bit of running a few drills and a game the standard wasn't a massive improvement from where he is now,keeper was excellent and that does make the difference i think at that age
so for now we will use it as extra night of training, and if he gets in he can leave his old place,
it was quite pleasing to see them trsut him with the ball instantly, shows hes at a better level than he thinks.
and he scored, and he nutmegged the managers son as well.
From reading the recent posts I wonder if a few people might be looking for a way out.
Nobody in their right mind would want to get up early on a Saturday and drive miles for an inevitable hammering.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the kids aren't wanting to get out of bed, let alone the parents.
For whatever reason, this team doesn't seem to have a chance and everyone involved deserves a chance to take stock.
Full marks for stoicism and loyalty - fantastic attributes the kids gave learned.
Nobody in their right mind would want to get up early on a Saturday and drive miles for an inevitable hammering.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the kids aren't wanting to get out of bed, let alone the parents.
For whatever reason, this team doesn't seem to have a chance and everyone involved deserves a chance to take stock.
Full marks for stoicism and loyalty - fantastic attributes the kids gave learned.
j4ckos mate said:
it wouldnt be fair on my lad or the players to post a link of the league while hes still playing,
but suffice to say since our last win. we've let in 350 goals.
After the utter tonking at the weekend we talked about another team,
he didnt want to look out of loyalty, but enough is enough.
on sunday they all played badly but I didn't appreciate them getting nailed for playing in the freezing rain 20 miles away when quite a few didn't bother letting him know they weren't going.
i found one in a different league that's fairly local, they have enough players at the moment but one or two are unreliable, so im hoping he can get his feet under the table between now and xmas.
they are second in the 3rd div of 3 div's.
we went to their training last night with an open mind, expecting it to be quite harsh, fitness based, but it wasn't, jsut a bit of running a few drills and a game the standard wasn't a massive improvement from where he is now,keeper was excellent and that does make the difference i think at that age
so for now we will use it as extra night of training, and if he gets in he can leave his old place,
it was quite pleasing to see them trsut him with the ball instantly, shows hes at a better level than he thinks.
and he scored, and he nutmegged the managers son as well.
Great to hear, 4-0 is a humping, 25-0's etc are off the scale!!!but suffice to say since our last win. we've let in 350 goals.
After the utter tonking at the weekend we talked about another team,
he didnt want to look out of loyalty, but enough is enough.
on sunday they all played badly but I didn't appreciate them getting nailed for playing in the freezing rain 20 miles away when quite a few didn't bother letting him know they weren't going.
i found one in a different league that's fairly local, they have enough players at the moment but one or two are unreliable, so im hoping he can get his feet under the table between now and xmas.
they are second in the 3rd div of 3 div's.
we went to their training last night with an open mind, expecting it to be quite harsh, fitness based, but it wasn't, jsut a bit of running a few drills and a game the standard wasn't a massive improvement from where he is now,keeper was excellent and that does make the difference i think at that age
so for now we will use it as extra night of training, and if he gets in he can leave his old place,
it was quite pleasing to see them trsut him with the ball instantly, shows hes at a better level than he thinks.
and he scored, and he nutmegged the managers son as well.
I could tell you stories that would make your hair fall out
Keeper cant kick it out as far as his own defenders, when doing a goal kick, so their attackers just wait off them and score.
Hugely tubby players that cant run in defence, keeper chipped while on his own line from pen area
Keeper letting 12 in and we were hammered so much he got motm.
Manager constantly at them from the start, 80 mins of shouting, so it makes them nervous on the ball,
The last two excellent players left 18 months ago, since then its a downward spiral.
What hurts the most is the over exuberant celebrations of the opponents during the game,
i dont understand what the opponents managers get from that? if its 12 nil, and they score the kids runs over to the subs and gets mobbed,
or even more insulting is the keeper swapping tops and coming up, they usually score as well
this is the kind of experience we've been having most weekends
Anyway, its a credit to all of the kids that they dont let that get to them, if it would have been me id have been a little more "unpleasant" to play against.
so he will try his best to get into the other team and if he doesn't succeed, its been an extra night of training at least.
and hes still signed on at his original place for now
we will keep plugging away and see what transpires upto xmas
Keeper cant kick it out as far as his own defenders, when doing a goal kick, so their attackers just wait off them and score.
Hugely tubby players that cant run in defence, keeper chipped while on his own line from pen area
Keeper letting 12 in and we were hammered so much he got motm.
Manager constantly at them from the start, 80 mins of shouting, so it makes them nervous on the ball,
The last two excellent players left 18 months ago, since then its a downward spiral.
What hurts the most is the over exuberant celebrations of the opponents during the game,
i dont understand what the opponents managers get from that? if its 12 nil, and they score the kids runs over to the subs and gets mobbed,
or even more insulting is the keeper swapping tops and coming up, they usually score as well
this is the kind of experience we've been having most weekends
Anyway, its a credit to all of the kids that they dont let that get to them, if it would have been me id have been a little more "unpleasant" to play against.
so he will try his best to get into the other team and if he doesn't succeed, its been an extra night of training at least.
and hes still signed on at his original place for now
we will keep plugging away and see what transpires upto xmas
Taking goal kicks though, that is a pure coaching thing.
Plenty of teams don't let the goalie take the kick. They let one of the defenders hoof it.
In reference to the thread title about the FA, one of the best rules changes they have made at Mini soccer level is that oppostion MUST be behind the half way line when the goal kick is taken.
Gets rid of that re start issue.
We had an utter shameful and disgrace of a referee.
We were 2-0 in a cup game and all going well. Then something changed. I really can't put my finger on it and will speak to some of the dads about it next week.
Bearing in mind my lad is the keeper ......
1: We had a melee in the middle of our box and one of our players managed to kick the ball out towards the corner flag, just to ease the pressure on us a few seconds to regroup. My lad ran to the ball, and jumped on it to protect it, to stall for a few seconds and picked it up. The ref blew for a foul as he deemed it a back-pass.
2: A few minutes later their striker was 1-on-1 with Kinky junior, who got to the ball first and went to ground. Bearing in mind he had 100% control of the ball in his chest with 2 hands on the ground, the striker went to kick his head and got a glancing blow. The ref did nothing. In any normal game, a straight red.
3: They had a corner and one of their guys headed the ball and it was heading for goal which Kinky junior had covered, until one of their players blantantly pushed him out of the way and the ball ends up in the net. Now 2-1. The ref saw nothing.
4: They were on the attack, again a 1:1 with their striker. Kinky junior got the ball, and again goes to ground to protect the ball. The striker jumps on my lads knee, studs first. My lad releases the ball because of the pain to his leg, they run in and score. Again, the ref saw nothing and in any normal game a straight red card. Now 2-2. My lad was down for approximately 6 minutes and was 50/50 if he'd continue; he did. It was about a minute before the ref let our manager onto the pitch to attend to him.
5: Everytime we were attacking, the ref would blow for a foul for the faintest of touches, in their favour. But we barely got anything. And we're a pretty un-physical team.
It was a complete disgrace to the refereeing profession. He was not a young lad either.
Makes my blood boil.
We were 2-0 in a cup game and all going well. Then something changed. I really can't put my finger on it and will speak to some of the dads about it next week.
Bearing in mind my lad is the keeper ......
1: We had a melee in the middle of our box and one of our players managed to kick the ball out towards the corner flag, just to ease the pressure on us a few seconds to regroup. My lad ran to the ball, and jumped on it to protect it, to stall for a few seconds and picked it up. The ref blew for a foul as he deemed it a back-pass.
2: A few minutes later their striker was 1-on-1 with Kinky junior, who got to the ball first and went to ground. Bearing in mind he had 100% control of the ball in his chest with 2 hands on the ground, the striker went to kick his head and got a glancing blow. The ref did nothing. In any normal game, a straight red.
3: They had a corner and one of their guys headed the ball and it was heading for goal which Kinky junior had covered, until one of their players blantantly pushed him out of the way and the ball ends up in the net. Now 2-1. The ref saw nothing.
4: They were on the attack, again a 1:1 with their striker. Kinky junior got the ball, and again goes to ground to protect the ball. The striker jumps on my lads knee, studs first. My lad releases the ball because of the pain to his leg, they run in and score. Again, the ref saw nothing and in any normal game a straight red card. Now 2-2. My lad was down for approximately 6 minutes and was 50/50 if he'd continue; he did. It was about a minute before the ref let our manager onto the pitch to attend to him.
5: Everytime we were attacking, the ref would blow for a foul for the faintest of touches, in their favour. But we barely got anything. And we're a pretty un-physical team.
It was a complete disgrace to the refereeing profession. He was not a young lad either.
Makes my blood boil.
As the coach I get to mark the referee and can write a report on them if I feel aggrieved or concerned about the perfomance.
But of course it is all too late.
Certainly in most matches we play you can't say a thing, since they are under 16.
Sounds pretty horrific Kinky, speak to some others, the league will have a referee leader, and they could send another official to watch that refs next game or next game with that team....
I'm not sure what happened today if I'm honest
We're bottom of 12. they are 5th
We got beat 7-1 which was good for us. We played them last month when my lad was on holiday and got beat 19-0
So now we're on the cusp of going somewhere else
We might be getting it together
Ref was great
They are usually a couple of years older than the kids so I tend not to moan about them
Ref even spotted an unusual scenario today's
Shot got saved and was still trickling towards goal and another player helped it off the line and his touch just to make sure it got there made it off side
So our ref was excellent.
Nice team of pleasant lads as well
We're bottom of 12. they are 5th
We got beat 7-1 which was good for us. We played them last month when my lad was on holiday and got beat 19-0
So now we're on the cusp of going somewhere else
We might be getting it together
Ref was great
They are usually a couple of years older than the kids so I tend not to moan about them
Ref even spotted an unusual scenario today's
Shot got saved and was still trickling towards goal and another player helped it off the line and his touch just to make sure it got there made it off side
So our ref was excellent.
Nice team of pleasant lads as well
Back to our old ways,
8-1, bad game, for us, we had a chance and we lost it through oursevles
we were 1-1 for about 25 mins,getting abit giddy, then a couple of soft goals by the keeper and all was lost head went down, manager did too many changes, lost shape,
one of our parents reffed it, and missed alot to be fair, so their parents were going mental about it.
ended up quite a scrappy game, and a dirty one as well on our behalf,
8-1, bad game, for us, we had a chance and we lost it through oursevles
we were 1-1 for about 25 mins,getting abit giddy, then a couple of soft goals by the keeper and all was lost head went down, manager did too many changes, lost shape,
one of our parents reffed it, and missed alot to be fair, so their parents were going mental about it.
ended up quite a scrappy game, and a dirty one as well on our behalf,
j4ckos mate said:
.... lots of stuff .....
Here's an alternative - has your son considered becoming a ref?My lads (same age as yours (U15 this season)) half way through his at the moment, as he absolutely loves it. It's really clicked with him. And best of all, when he provisionally qualifies next week, he'll start making money reffing every week.
He will continue to play his Saturday league footy. So I guess we'll be rushing around from playing in 1 game to reffing another.
He's really got into it, and has come buzzing after each training session so far.
Kinky said:
j4ckos mate said:
.... lots of stuff .....
Here's an alternative - has your son considered becoming a ref?My lads (same age as yours (U15 this season)) half way through his at the moment, as he absolutely loves it. It's really clicked with him. And best of all, when he provisionally qualifies next week, he'll start making money reffing every week.
He will continue to play his Saturday league footy. So I guess we'll be rushing around from playing in 1 game to reffing another.
He's really got into it, and has come buzzing after each training session so far.
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